Garden of Eden

[moonwalker]

This was taken from the site (http://www(dot)christsway.co.za/letters_eng.htm) Don't ask how I got there I just came across it while surfing. It's funny in a distrubing sort of way.


The reason we murder, have wars, etc., is because we and the entire world, are infected with a malevolent entity, like from a science-fiction movie. Only it's not a movie, it's reality. You could say, that we've been brain-washed by Religion, and wrong interpetations of the Bible, and that's the problem, except you'd be lying to yourself, if you did that.

Eve took the forbidden fruit, because she was left unguarded in the garden, by the man. She was all alone, when she was tempted. It's like today, when a woman goes out on her own, she's more prone to get intoi trouble, than a man. Also, all women have problems with food, they love it, they hate it, they starve themseleves, etc.. This is the inherited nature, from the garden and the wrong choice by the women. It's actually a malevolent entity, that has a grip on the minds of all women, going back to the fall. All women are born subject to it, upon birth, it's like their souls are already the property of this entity.

Now the man still could of saved all of future humanity, by refusing to eat what his wife, already ate. But, like you say, the idea of being God was too temtping, even though this first man had the whole world in the palm of his hand already. He had it all, the whole of the Universe was open up before his eyes. But something about being God was too tempting, so he gave into his women's appeals and blew it.

Just like men do with women, today. She makes you feel like God when you give into her. That feeling comes from this fall from the garden. But you'd never believe it, nope. Where all much to sophisticated to believe in a fable like the Garden of Eden.

It doesn't matter, the entir world is going to revert back to the beginning stages, just like the Garden of Eden. The lease that the earth has with evil, is just about to expire. Then the truth of the story of the Garden of Eden, will shine everywhere, and it'll be impossible for anyone to call it a fable.

 

[veille]

We will access the same level as the garden of eden but it won't be a revert back into unconsious paradise. It will now be conscious, it will be a new step forward in the evolution of consciousness. It points to the difference between the ever recurring cycle (oriental idea) and the fall from unconscious paradise and subsequent resurrection (of occidental religious myths).
Just like Odin (clairvoyance) was lost to Fenris Wolf and Loki (intellect and evil) but resurrects as Vidar, the resurrected hero (it means in short: we don't revert back to Odin's state).

 

[dant]

The problem with this story is it bias, and it leads be to think that the story
was written from a man's point of view, hmmm? Why is it, that a man
thinks he has to protect a woman? Is it because she is of the weaker sex?
Ain't that a bit sexist, perhaps? :)

Of course, we have heard of the Amazonians, completely wiping out the
more "powerful" men in battle, but then that is up to the 'man' to believe
it or discount the story entirely. Guess you could call it 'wishful thinking',
heh heh.

Maybe the reason for this 'story' in Genesis is to place woman under the
dominion of man, ie this 'GOD of the Hebrews' ordained men to be the
dominant of the sexes and thus begins the 'control' mechanism?

Dualism is an interesting concept nevertheless and I wonder if 'in the
beginning', man and woman were CO-EQUALS. I am sure that some
men would cringe at the notion and would probably want to kill me
for letting the 'cat out of the bag'. No joke. I encountered such men
in real life, and I am no "Nancy", but I do love my wife dearly as we
are but co-equals.

 

[veille]

At the beginning of Genesis it is said that the Moon (the Feminine) somewhat 'accepted' to be reduced, to become secondary (submissive) in material Creation but that in the EndTimes she will gain back her dominion over the world and over man. At the time of the fall, she became even more submitted to her male soul-mate. I know a Rabbi who is also a teacher of Judaism, who thinks that feminism is the beginning of this heavenly reaffirmation of the Feminine linked to the End Times (for Jews, we are utterly close to the Jugment for we are living the End Times right now).

 

[the rabbit]

"when a woman goes out on her own, she's more prone to get intoi trouble, than a man."

What the hell does this mean?

If it means attacked,then the fact is more crimes/physical attacks are committed on men by men.

if it doesnt mean this,i ask the same question.
What the hell does this mean?

 

[Marie]

Maybe the reason for this 'story' in Genesis is to place woman under the
dominion of man, ie this 'GOD of the Hebrews' ordained men to be the
dominant of the sexes and thus begins the 'control' mechanism?

This idea IMHO would be supported by the fact that so many obvious MCS agents - such as GW Bush, the Church and other monotheisms, the media - have more or less disguised sexist agendas.

Dualism is an interesting concept nevertheless and I wonder if 'in the
beginning', man and woman were CO-EQUALS.

This was one of the conclusions Laura reached and recounted in The Chalice and the blade
(The link seems to be working on and off)

It seems that there are basically two "kinds" of society: Dominator/pyramidal societies, such as our present one, and partnership/circle, which were in use thousands of years ago - apparently the main turning point was about five thousand years ago.

Another interesting correlation I came across is this one: Any militaristic / socially stratified society needs a high birth-rate - to make soldiers and policemen, factory and wage workers in high enough numbers that they need to compete for available jobs. To get a high birth-rate, you must either devaluate women in such a way that having children become their best shot at status ans identity, or take out any choice they might have regarding the number or spacing of their children. Both have been done.

On a hopeful note, society is now evolving faster than it ever has in our official history, and now might be just the time to tackle the challenge of equality for all.

 

[veille]

In-a-gadda-da-vida baby... (In the Garden of Eden, baby).
cool semi-psychedelic song by Iron Butterfly.

Veille

 

[Mark]

At the beginning of Genesis it is said that the Moon (the Feminine) somewhat 'accepted' to be reduced, to become secondary (submissive) in material Creation but that in the EndTimes she will gain back her dominion over the world and over man. At the time of the fall, she became even more submitted to her male soul-mate. I know a Rabbi who is also a teacher of Judaism, who thinks that feminism is the beginning of this heavenly reaffirmation of the Feminine linked to the End Times (for Jews, we are utterly close to the Jugment for we are living the End Times right now).

Are you saying you're a Jewish and you believe we're close to biblical judgement?