George W's Land of The Free

[ec1968]

This is George W Bush writing about how the Cultural Revolution in China solidified his view on the importance of freedom. Y'all remember freedom? Y'know, the concept on which George W based his every decision whilst POTUS. ( Just as an aside, I wonder who told him that China had had a Cultural Revolution, and how on earth they explained that concept to him?)

'China's experience reminded me of the French and Russian revolutions. The pattern was the same: people siezed control by promising to promote certain ideals. Once they had consolidated power, they abused it, casting aside their beliefs and brutalizing their fellow citizens. It was as if mankind had a sickness that it kept inflicting on itself. The sobering thought deepened my conviction that freedom - economic, political and religious - is the only fair and productive way of governing a society.'

 

[mkrnhr]

People never sized control, it was always in the hands of the elites. People have been manipulated due to ignorance, and it continues nowadays.

 

[ec1968]

People never sized control, it was always in the hands of the elites. People have been manipulated due to ignorance, and it continues nowadays.

Even if GWB were correct about the people siezing control in China, Russia, France, or anywhere else where they had a revolution, the thing that struck me is that he thinks he governed through economic, political and religious freedom. Can anyone think of a single action he took, that resulted in economic, political and religious freedom increasing, anywhere?

 

[mkrnhr]

W is a murderous criminal and an idiot, it doesn't surprise that he believes the lies he was was fed with.

Edit: also consider this: _http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/12/george-bush-book-decision-points_n_782731.html#s180908

 

[Buddy]

I agree with mkrnhr. Just looking at the most prominent players and issues in China's so-called 'Cultural revolution' of (1966-1976), it appears this was all about the chairman of the Communist Party, Mao Zedong, and his vision of 'freeing' the communist party and society at large, from "liberal bourgeois elements".

In my view (which could be wrong), considering the context of China, it was those very 'elements' that would have flowered into more freedom for the people, if said elements hadn't been nipped in the bud.

So, after a bit of upheaval, resulting in destruction of "antiques, historical sites, and culture", Mao Zedong wound up with more tightened controls for the communist government, over the people and over capitalism, with him in charge.

So, now maybe we can see Bush's consistency with, and admiration of, Totalitarian dynamics. And how what Bush/Cheney did was, on principle, not so very different, OSIT.

People never sized control, it was always in the hands of the elites. People have been manipulated due to ignorance, and it continues nowadays.

Even if GWB were correct about the people siezing control in China, Russia, France, or anywhere else where they had a revolution, the thing that struck me is that he thinks he governed through economic, political and religious freedom. Can anyone think of a single action he took, that resulted in economic, political and religious freedom increasing, anywhere?

Certainly not freedom in terms of all individuals benefiting, but there seems to have been some increased freedom for the militant religious right to don military fatigues and come very close to initiating some kind of "Neo-Inquisition" or whatnot.

Just my 2 cents.


ref:
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_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

 

[seek10]

'China's experience reminded me of the French and Russian revolutions. The pattern was the same: people siezed control by promising to promote certain ideals. Once they had consolidated power, they abused it, casting aside their beliefs and brutalizing their fellow citizens. It was as if mankind had a sickness that it kept inflicting on itself. The sobering thought deepened my conviction that freedom - economic, political and religious - is the only fair and productive way of governing a society.'

Unfortunately it is was proven that even French and Russian revolutions are also stimulated, coopted and abused by the same elite who wants new dress to decieve. So, Elite is always one step ahead of thinking people.

 

[Gimpy]

'China's experience reminded me of the French and Russian revolutions. The pattern was the same: people siezed control by promising to promote certain ideals. Once they had consolidated power, they abused it, casting aside their beliefs and brutalizing their fellow citizens. It was as if mankind had a sickness that it kept inflicting on itself. The sobering thought deepened my conviction that freedom - economic, political and religious - is the only fair and productive way of governing a society.'

Unfortunately it is was proven that even French and Russian revolutions are also stimulated, coopted and abused by the same elite who wants new dress to decieve. So, Elite is always one step ahead of thinking people.

I don't buy that they are a step ahead without a lot of 'help', both by corruption, co-option, and 4-D meddling.

I've seen documentaries about baboon troops that had psychopathic dominant male leadership, and that leadership perished in one generation from a plague of tuberculosis, and wiped all the aggressive dominant males out. Those females and males that survived no longer allowed males into the troupe that displayed the bad behavior of the former aggressive males. Other aggressive males were run out.

If baboons can find peace in one generation, I think human beings, knowing what to look for, can also garner peace. But it won't be pretty or easy.

Its a thin hope, but it helps me sleep at night.

 

[ScioAgapeOmnis]

The sobering thought deepened my conviction that freedom - economic, political and religious - is the only fair and productive way of governing a society.'

Let me look that up in the patho-english translator:

The sobering thought deepened my personal confusion that freedom for the rich to get richer at the expense of everyone else, for the politicians to say what they want and do what they want with everyone's money and military, and for religions to continue manipulating the young and the old - that is the only productive way of controlling a society.'

Don't they know that most people don't speak patho? No wonder the world is such a mess, it's just a misunderstanding due to a language barrier. We need patho-second-language classes so the rest of the population can finally start understanding their leaders. Until then, they ought to start real-time translation of all political/economic/religious tv speeches via close-captions done by patho-english translators, asap!

The problem would be obvious if all our leaders spoke French or Swahili or something. But the patho language uses all the same words as the parent language, it just changes all the meanings! But it's a whole different language just the same, and if you don't speak it, it's just as useless as listening to French or Swahili. You just don't realize you're listening to a whole different language when you hear Patho, but ask any linguist, it is a totally different language. American high schools need to include Patho together with the French and Spanish foreign language offerings! I'd write to my congressman with this request but my Patho is poor, he won't understand, nor will I understand his reply. *sigh*

 

[maryjk_99]

Let me look that up in the patho-english translator:

;D


SAO, that was classic! Thanks for the chuckle!

 

[Pierre]

Unfortunately it is was proven that even French and Russian revolutions are also stimulated, coopted and abused by the same elite who wants new dress to decieve. So, Elite is always one step ahead of thinking people.

Sad but true.

Actually Douglas Reed dedicated several dozen of pages of The Controversy of Zion to the description of the elite-piloted French and Russian "revolutions".