Google LIES

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Greetings, Cherished Sibling Forumites and Good Reader Friends,


Not only do they participate in internet censorship and Cointelpro, Google LIES about each and every search. Here's the reality, verifiable with any Google Search you care to do on any topic of your choice. The same results are guaranteed to be yours, first time and every time.

SEARCH TOPIC:

> Types of Depression

AT THE TOP OF THE LAST SEARCH PAGE PROVIDED, USING THE EXTENDED/ADVANCED SEARCH MODE APPEARED:

> Results 971 - 980 of about 24,000,000 for Types of Depression. (0.33 seconds)

NOTE PLEASE THAT THE LAST PAGE HAS BEEN OPENED:

> Result Page:
> Previous
> 88
> 89
> 90
> 91
> 92
> 93
> 94
> 95
> 96
> 97
> 98
>

And there you have it, my friends. GOOGLE LIES. All of the time, every time. They always tell you that your search has gotten thousands or, as above, even millions of "hits." However, don't bother attempting to find any hits beyond their actually very limited number.

Another part of the Great Google Search Rip-Off too is that each and every page you do get will contain many of the same "hits." Of the tiny percentage you actually get, as opposed to all of those results they say are out there and found, only about half to two-thirds of the delivered ones are unique, individual links. The rest are the same links as found on pages one through 5, repeated on page after page after page... Then, when you start trying them out, of those unique links that are provided, there are about one in four that are no longer valid, leading to no web site or referal, just lots and lots of "Error 404: Page not found" notices, or transfers to commercial web sites totally unrelated to the topic, or offers to make you a good deal if you want to buy the web site domain name you've just clicked on. Doing an intensive web search with Google can get rather hairy.

Isn't it time to demand some Truth in advertising from these clowns?

Just to be fair, let's repeat the process with something even simpler and guaranteed to get even more "hits" from the Google Lie Machine. How about the topic of Dogs?

> Dogs

> Results 991 - 998 of about 133,000,000 for Dogs. (0.23 seconds)

> Result Page:
> Previous
> 90
> 91
> 92
> 93
> 94
> 95
> 96
> 97
> 98
> 99
> 100

My first search on "Dogs" netted this:

"Results 1 - 10 of about 221,000,000 for Dogs [definition]. (0.09 seconds)."

On the very last page, number 87 that time, they asked if I wanted to include the results that had been left out. Of course I did, and the repeated, "expanded" search, netted about 78,000,000 fewer alleged listings, but another 11 pages of links. Something is very off with that result.

Does anyone else find it very interesting that the total number of real "hits" from the search on "Dogs" was almost the same as the one on "Types of Depression"?? So was the total number of hits on a number of other topics. It ranges from about 50 pages to 100 pages. But no more than 100 have ever been delivered, not to this searcher at least. My e-mails to Google asking about this curious set of incongruities have never gotten a reply either.

But that is it: There is NO Page 101. No matter the claims of 133,000,000 "hits" on the "expanded" results for the topic of "Dogs," the searcher can have exactly 998 of them, with roughly a third of those being repetitions. It seems very likely that the "expanded" search netted me the 11 extra pages because Google never had more than 998 total results to provide. All the rest is most likely "smoke and mirrors" or, in other words, just plain LIES, BS and hype.

That may well be the truth behind the Google lies. What links you do get may be ALL the links that Google has to offer. Otherwise, why would they just stop at some arbitrary number of listings? And why would there be fewer returns claimed on an expanded search unless both of the claimed numbers of search results were fictitious?

To check out the Google Truth, just keep clicking to the highest number offered at the bottom of each page. From page 10, to 19, to 28, and upward it will go, but not ever will it provide you the full number of links that Google claims to have found. It leads this searcher to have concluded that Google has never actually found all of those links, that, in truth all of those thousands or millions of links do not exist. They very likely make up those huge results numbers just to keep the suckers, (oops, I mean searchers) coming back for more cheating and repeating. If that is not the case, if Google does have the ability to provide the huge numbers of "hits" they claim to have found, then they should make them all available, without restriction, to any who request them.

Do we, the customers out here, not have the right to demand they either put up, provide all of the links they claim, or else admit they've only got a few hundred links all total? (Again, bear in mind that a good third of the "hits" from any Google search are repeats.)

Either way, now we know. Google LIES, with and about every search. If they do this with their quantitative results, one wonders indeed how much qualitative "filtering" out of various information sources is also going on? If someone comes up with a simple and easily repeated means to check on that, please share it. It would be very informative if we could somehow find out whether there are active, known web links to various information sources that should, logically, be included in a specific topical category but are not "found" by a Google search.

After all, they have, in their Chinese internet set-up and "service", become true masters of the censored search, and in both Canotonese and Mandarin as well as English, no less. Why not use it here? Who's to know?

Good Searching to All,

M
 
According to Google:

http://www.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=484

"Google provides only the 1000 most relevant search results for a query, even when there are more than 1000 matches. (Due to variations in our estimates, we may, on occasion, display slightly less than 1000.) We try to make your search experience so efficient that it's not necessary to scroll past the first ten listings."

I believe most search engines have a similar limit in how many results are retrieved, so I'm not sure it's a big problem. To find the "missing pages", you would just have to be more specific when you enter search terms.

But of course, there is the problem with popularity, and at least with Google Scholar, they are very secretive about their ranking algorithm, and what makes certain results more "relevant" than others. While most present metasearch systems (used to access specific catalogues or databases) access and send the search query to the individual databases, and then display the combined result, Google Scholar collect a local repository, that it searches from, using their own algoritms and ranking systems. So it would be easy for certain research results to "disappear" from there, while others can be promoted as more "relevant".

On a seminar I was also told that their aim was to replace all other metasearch systems to access scolarly or research information.

Here is an article comparing Google Scholar with other systems in more detail:
http://library.cern.ch/HEPLW/12/papers/1/
 
Greetings Cherished Forumites and Good Reader Friends,

Thanks for your reply, Tomas. Your post wasn't clear on one point: Have you in fact been successful in getting another 1000 links, or more, from Google? If so, I would certainly like to know how to obtain them. Please, if you've gotten additional listings from them, share the method for obtaining the second 1000 "hits" from a Google search? There are any number of previous searches I would truly love to repeat if somehow the additional could be obtained.

There is no secret in this Esteemed Forum of the simple fact that this old Magus came very late to the world of computers and the internet and has much to learn. My Sibling SotT Forumites have indeed been most excellent and patient Teachers to me in this part of the Quest for Knowledge, and you too have now added to the sum total of my "computerese." For that I humbly thank you. If, in fact, there is a method of which I am ignorant, that you have used to obtain additional lists of "hits" from Google, then I withdraw the following. But, in case there is no such method....

Indeed, Tomas, you have hit the point squarely at the end of your reply: Just WHO is to be entitled and trusted as the arbiter in fact of what is considered "relevant" in any search for information? Why should we not be presented with some type of access to ALL of the related materials, upon making a formal request, and allowed the right to choose for ourselves what we consider to be most "relevant" among the total?

Instead, just as you pointed out, we have those anonymous, mysterious and, let us not forget all-controlling "algorithms" at Google deciding for us what will, and, more to the point, what will NOT be made available for our study, on the sole basis of their unrevealed methods of determination as to what is most "relevant."

It is not that any reasonable person would expect Google, or any other search engine, to automatically provide millions of links for every search. Such would be prohibitively complex, time-consuming, expensive and far beyond the requirements and even the wants of most searchers. However, and here is the main point made previously, not even upon request, at least not upon my own requests, will Google provide the full set of all listings, nor even just the "next 1000" of the links that they claim to have found. Why not? Most of us, being reasonable people, would not even object to paying a small fee to obtain ALL of the "hits" upon request, or even a per 1000 additional "hits" premium. But no such extended search results service is provided. WHY NOT?

If they do in truth have such lists, another 1000, or several millions more of "hits" for a given search topic, why is there no provision whatsoever made for the Seeker of such information to obtain it? In view of the potential for Google to make additional profits from the fees charged for such "premium" search services, when providing the next 1000 hits to customers who request them, it is odd that no such service has ever yet been offered, despite at least this one researcher having suggested it to them several times.

M
 
I've noticed that the parasite elements of the internet are getting better at defeating Google's sooper-sekrit page ranking algorithm. I think even with as many bright guys as Google has managed to attract, they're not keeping up. Or it could be that Google has grown big enough that they're starting to become stupid. It happens to all corporations once they reach a certain size.

In any case, with any centralized entity, you can't really trust what it's doing, is in your best interest.

It would be nice, if there was some way to distribute page ranking out to the people who are actually searching, in a completely open way.
 
Talking about parasites, how can we explain that, a bug freezed over Germany? Do they re-scan satellite images?

http://tinyurl.com/e79a7
 
dantem said:
Talking about parasites, how can we explain that, a bug freezed over Germany? Do they re-scan satellite images?

http://tinyurl.com/e79a7
Evidently sometimes they do. There may be a simple reason for it. The satellite images received by Google have to be "declassified" first. That means someone is being kept personally responsible for each released photo. When the photo is provided "on paper" rather than as a computer image, then it is easy, in case of trouble, to track back the origin and to find the responsible person. So, I consider the idea of all Googlemaps images being rescanned from material data as a plausible hypothesis. The bug confirms it. Another possibility is that it was put there deliberately, just for fun. But when looking very closely on an enlarged and enhanced piece of the photo with the bug on it, I saw something that resembled text typed on other side. This seems to confirm that at least this piece has been rescanned. But it could have been a joke as well. Hard to tell. Not enough data.

bug.jpg
 
ark said:
But when looking very closely on an enlarged and enhanced piece of the photo with the bug on it, I saw something that resembled text typed on other side. This seems to confirm that at least this piece has been rescanned. But it could have been a joke as well. Hard to tell. Not enough data.
There are scattered watermarks all over the place - (c) 2006 Google - if that's what you're referring to.
 
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