greenbaum stuff

[highmystica]

Is there more greenbaum stuff here besides the thing from the wave series and the greenbaum speech, or do you know of any good links? I tried to use the search thing (the one for the entire site - not the forum) but it came up with an "Internal Server Error" ...

 

[highmystica]

Please help here - I got a friend that grew up in the jehovah's witnasses and from my limited point of view he seems to have suffered some mighty poisoning - his dad was their priest and was grooming his son to be the same, look I really need a hand with that - I am in no way really equipted to help him, but I did from my nature help him a bit - so he calls me for further help and he does need it without a doubt, but the help I gave him was kinda like a band-aid on a gun shot wound, and he said things during that mediation that were worrisome in the context of that meditation, but are terrifying after reading the greenbaum speech, I got just under a month before I see him again, and well he did ask me for help ... I know I am untrained as a hypnotherapist, and he does too - that's why he asked me for help in the first place, but I don't know enough - this is really important too me, well not even me - but to a poor cat that grew up in a nasty environment ... help please!

 

[Ryan]

HM, something that you need to take very well under consideration is that you cannot "save" anybody. Dabbling in areas such as hypnosis with no developed skills or knowledge is asking for trouble - especially if possible greenbauming is involved. You cannot be of assistance to such a person and there is a good probability that your best intentions may cause their situation to become even worse. Trying to offer someone "help" that you are incapable of providing is lying to them.

If this guy is truly asking for help, then help him to help himself. Trying to play the "savior" or "expert" is only going to hurt him more in the long run.

 

[wanderer33]

What or where is the source of this/these techniques? What is its history?

There is little doubt that the phenomena relates to brainwave function and its manipulation. It also relates to
the idea of the cybernetic mind...mind as machine



I conducted an intuitive search on the web and came up with....

sophrology

Dr. Maxwell Maltz

Psychocybernetics

an interesting book called - Mind Powers, how to control your unlimited potential

The Alpha Seminar


Also there is a company called Holosync which distributes brain sync and brainwave audio CDs which are personalised
with subliminal messages targetting the user. I think these are supposed to represent a list of affirmations supplied by the
customer. But could easily include any messages at all.

I'm not saying these are bad things in themselves, but these systems are all open to abuse and could be used to propagate
a widespread campaign of mind control.

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi wanderer33,

Have you had a chance to read the Greenbaum Speech by D.C.Hammond? :)

 

[wanderer33]

Sure did and it scared the daylight out of me.

I got the impression from DR. Hammond that "Greenbaum" was localised, to the US, specifically the US military.

It must be wider, international to be effective. There could be many other sources...albeit from the same thought.

 

[eliansito]

Here is a link with really disturbing information closely related to greenbaum, i got it from the blog of someone from which another member posted an article related to child abuse. It made me sick and scared to death to know the extent at which such things could be happening.

Pedophocracy its title...:

__http://www.whale.to/b/pedophocracy.html

 

[durabone]

Thanks for that link eliansito. In return I offer this one: _http://www.savethemales.ca/incest_survivor_lifted_veil_on.html
I don't know that I buy that there is anything specifically jewish about pedophiles, which Makow and Polin seem to focus in
on, but I am witness to an increasing number of pieces that report that the types of things going on in both the link that you
provided and the one I give - are in fact going on.

 

[Gonzo]

Hello Highmystica,

Did this person actually ask you to help them or are you just concerned for them and therefore assuming they need your help? The STO approach would be to give when asked and it would otherwise be servicing the self to give without the person asking.

Everyone has a path to walk, lessons to be learned and, as painful as it is to watch, it is not for us to decide how they should be, lest we violate their free will and lesson plan. We get into grey areas where the person seems to be unable to ask for help, and that really requires a lot of consideration. A good example would be coming across an unconscious person suffering from injuries and helping them when they are incapable of asking. This dilemma and others have been discussed on the forum. If you are interested, you can search for free will.

If the person in fact did ask for assistance, then my comment is, of course, moot.

Regards,
Gonzo

 

[HiThere]

Hello Highmystica,

Did this person actually ask you to help them or are you just concerned for them and therefore assuming they need your help? ..

The original post is from 2006.

 

[Gonzo]

Hello Highmystica,

Did this person actually ask you to help them or are you just concerned for them and therefore assuming they need your help? ..

The original post is from 2006.

Doh! Not sure why I didn't see that. For some odd reason, my interface is showing old posts when it used to show recent, unread posts. I must have accidentally clicked the sort button so it now shows oldest and not most recent.

Thanks,
Gonzo

 

[HiThere]

:)

 

[Jacques]

Not sure if it is the original but it is English with the subtitles in French.

Part 1:

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Part 2:

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