gurdjieff - original transcripts of all 4 of his books

[andydwyer]

Hi everyone

Does anyone have the original transcripts of Gurdjieffs books i.e. (or know where I can get them)
the herald of coming good
beelzebubs tales to his grandson
meetings with remarkable men
life is real only when iam

Kind Regards

Andy Dwyer

 

[Mal7]

"Beelzebub's Tales" was originally written in the Russian and Armenian languages. Are you looking for a transcript of the original unique manuscript as written by Gurdjieff himself in those languages?

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Hi everyone

Does anyone have the original transcripts of Gurdjieffs books i.e. (or know where I can get them)

Not sure what you mean by transcript. If you mean original, unedited manuscripts, then:

the herald of coming good

There's only one version of this, the one G approved and was published.

beelzebubs tales to his grandson

The 1930 edition is available here: http://www.redpillpress.com/shop/beelzebub-s-tales-to-his-grandson-1931-typescript/

The Penguin Arkana version is the one approved by Gurdjieff before he died.

meetings with remarkable men

The original of this isn't available and probably never will be.

life is real only when iam

Two early manuscripts are available in this: _http://bookstudio.co.uk/life-is-real-only-when-i-am/

 

[Akeem.the.Afrikan.dream]

Herald -the older used copies arent revised. It was published during Gurdjieffs lifetime and I believe C.S. Nott was involved with it as well so I highly doubt it's wiseacred.

Beelzebub -the penguin Arkana ones are the revised version. The red pill press one is an earlier version (translated by Orage I believe) but Gurdjieffs final Beelzebub was printed after that one in 1949 or 1950. You can buy the final one used or from two rivers press. I've found the orange one on scribd as well and if I remember correctly it 800 something pages long. Penguin Arkana revised version is 1100 something pages long and Gurdjieffs final B.T. is 1238 pages.

Meetings -I think there are some transcripts at a major american university that were donated by one of the ladies of the rope...It might be Yale but I'm not sure but if you google it and have an hour or so to go thru the search results you'll probably find it.

Life is real -red pill press.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Beelzebub -the penguin Arkana ones are the revised version. The red pill press one is an earlier version (translated by Orage I believe) but Gurdjieffs final Beelzebub was printed after that one in 1949 or 1950. You can buy the final one used or from two rivers press. I've found the orange one on scribd as well and if I remember correctly it 800 something pages long. Penguin Arkana revised version is 1100 something pages long and Gurdjieffs final B.T. is 1238 pages.

The latest Penguin Arkana version (1999) reproduces the original publication. Only the 1992 Arkana publication (also published by Tarcher in 2006) is the Salzmann translation.

Meetings -I think there are some transcripts at a major american university that were donated by one of the ladies of the rope...It might be Yale but I'm not sure but if you google it and have an hour or so to go thru the search results you'll probably find it.

As far as I'm aware, this is incorrect. There are manuscripts of 2 chapters in the Charles Sumner Greene collection at Berkeley, but that's it. Kathryn Hulme and Solita Solano's papers included a Life Is Real manuscript but no Meetings MS, as far as I am aware.

 

[RflctnOfU]

Beelzebub -the penguin Arkana ones are the revised version. The red pill press one is an earlier version (translated by Orage I believe) but Gurdjieffs final Beelzebub was printed after that one in 1949 or 1950. You can buy the final one used or from two rivers press. I've found the orange one on scribd as well and if I remember correctly it 800 something pages long. Penguin Arkana revised version is 1100 something pages long and Gurdjieffs final B.T. is 1238 pages.

The latest Penguin Arkana version (1999) reproduces the original publication. Only the 1992 Arkana publication (also published by Tarcher in 2006) is the Salzmann translation.

Meetings -I think there are some transcripts at a major american university that were donated by one of the ladies of the rope...It might be Yale but I'm not sure but if you google it and have an hour or so to go thru the search results you'll probably find it.

As far as I'm aware, this is incorrect. There are manuscripts of 2 chapters in the Charles Sumner Greene collection at Berkeley, but that's it. Kathryn Hulme and Solita Solano's papers included a Life Is Real manuscript but no Meetings MS, as far as I am aware.

AI, do you know if the manuscripts are digitized anywhere on the net? I spent an hour or so digging into this and can't find a thing. Thanks

Kris

 

[Approaching Infinity]

AI, do you know if the manuscripts are digitized anywhere on the net? I spent an hour or so digging into this and can't find a thing. Thanks

Nope, as far as I know they're not available online.

 

[dant]

I am assuming that this posted request is in search
of Original manuscripts, so perhaps one may
not find any PDFs?

I do find many PDFs for all of the above mentioned
titles... so does this mean that any PDFs found are
probably corrupted?