Heart With No Beat

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The Living Force
The search for the perfect artificial heart seems never-ending. After decades of trial and error, surgeons remain stymied in their quest for a machine that does not wear out, break down or cause clots and infections.

But Dr. Billy Cohn and Dr. Bud Frazier at the Texas Heart Institute say they have developed a machine that could avoid all that with simple whirling rotors — which means people may soon get a heart that has no beat.

Inside the institute's animal research laboratory is an 8-month-old calf with a soft brown coat named Abigail. Cohn and Frazier removed Abigail's heart and replaced it with two centrifugal pumps.

"If you listened to her chest with a stethoscope, you wouldn't hear a heartbeat," says Cohn. "If you examined her arteries, there's no pulse. If you hooked her up to an EKG, she'd be flat-lined."

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"By every metric we have to analyze patients, she's not living," Cohn says. "But here you can see she's a vigorous, happy, playful calf licking my hand."
:O... Eerie

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But Cohn says they will still have to convince the world that you don't need a pulse to live.

"We look at all the animals, insects, fish, reptiles and certainly all mammals, and see a pulsatile circulation," he says. "And so all the early research and all the early efforts were directed at making pulsatile pumps."

However, the only reason blood must be pumped rhythmically instead of continuously is the heart tissue itself.

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"These pumps don't wear out," he says. "We haven't pumped one to failure to date."

The tradeoff, of course, is the loss of the familiar, primordial sound of a beating human heart. For these surgeons, though, that's a small, poetic price to pay to make medical history.

I don't know about that. I would check out instead of doing this. We don't know what unintended consequences this may have physically and psychologically, What do you guys think?

Source: http://www.npr.org/2011/06/13/137029208/heart-with-no-beat-offers-hope-of-new-lease-on-life?sc=fb&cc=fp
 
According to Polyvagal Theory, the heartbeat and respiratory rhythm are intimately connected to a certain "pulsing" of the vagal brake. That is, there are important reasons that our hearts beat and this sounds like a really bad idea that corrupt, brain-dead scientists think is so nifty... maybe like thalidomide and other similar things they've come up with.
 
Even with no knowledge of Polyvagal Theory, it's pretty incredible that none of these "brilliant minds" ever stopped to consider that nature certainly could have come up with a different scheme than a beating heart. But the beating heart seems to have "won".

I mean, consider all the critters there are, and how some of them have some pretty amazing biological adaptations. It's not like Mama Nature doesn't know what she's doing. So, certainly hearts don't HAVE to beat - but they do!

So, I think this one should be classified under the "DUH?!?!" category.

Now, if they could just create an artificial heart that connects wirelessly to the internet and posts regular updates to Twitter, why THAT would be something, eh? :thdown:
 
Yeah, the heart beat is so intrinsically linked with the vagal system that is smart and related to empathy, emotions, social interactions!!
This is mind boggling!
 
Dick Cheney has a similar heart pump - and thus - no pulse! (why are we not surprised!!) http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-01-05/entertainment/27086458_1_mechanical-heart-artificial-heart-surgical-director

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html
 
Mr. Scott said:
Now, if they could just create an artificial heart that connects wirelessly to the internet and posts regular updates to Twitter, why THAT would be something, eh? :thdown:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

anart said:
Dick Cheney has a similar heart pump - and thus - no pulse! (why are we not surprised!!) http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-01-05/entertainment/27086458_1_mechanical-heart-artificial-heart-surgical-director
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/health/20docs.html

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Kind of brings to mind the way to calm a puppy, or a kitten by placing them on yer chest to hear a heartbeat.
 
Mr. Scott said:
Even with no knowledge of Polyvagal Theory, it's pretty incredible that none of these "brilliant minds" ever stopped to consider that nature certainly could have come up with a different scheme than a beating heart. But the beating heart seems to have "won".

I mean, consider all the critters there are, and how some of them have some pretty amazing biological adaptations. It's not like Mama Nature doesn't know what she's doing. So, certainly hearts don't HAVE to beat - but they do!

Precisely my thoughts. It just doesn't occur to them how so much, much more that they aren't necessarily aware of, must be involved in the process of a heartbeat. This bending, contorting and forcing of nature to achieve a highly discussable goal is beyond sad...and profoundly disheartening.
 

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