Help me help my son, please

[ella]

As to “helping” my son, I think it depends on the perspective. If you look at it from higher point of view, it does not really matter, he will do, what he will do, but since I am not really there yet, my feelings are mixed with 3D perspective, and from this perspective I would be very happy (to avoid saying that I want :)), if he would make a different choice. This is not an easy or obvious lesson for me.

If there is a 'higher view' then we have to first get out of our own heads. That's how this network of people helps because we first have to see ourselves from the outside (from other people's points of view).

Welcome to the forum and to the power of networking. And only 2 years before jumping in! :)

Yeah, I already feel the power of it! :)

 

[Nienna]

I know that you say this is really about your son, and you have gotten some good feedback on this. But since you went to so much trouble to write such a long post about you, I thought I'd ask.

And again this narcissism stuff. What I thought why I wrote this long post about myself is because I felt overburdened with everything going on around me, like suddenly realizing that I am being influenced by a negative forces, who are aware of my existence . And I never talked about in with anybody. But you are right, it is also narcissistic, troubling you all to read such a long post all about MYSELF. When I was reading about narcissism, it never appeared to me, that it can be about me to such an extend, I knew I had narcissistic traits, but I thought they were mild. I need to watch myself closely in this respect. You are all being my mirror now. Thanks again.
But somehow I feel calm at the moment, like relieved.

Sorry, I was not saying that because you wrote about yourself that you were narcissistic. I was implying that maybe, since you wrote all of that about yourself that you might be looking for help for yourself and not just your son.

What is your diet like?
You say that you were a vegetarian and not eat meat, but what else are you eating? Do you eat bread, pasta, corn, rice soy, cereal, drink coffee, etc.?

I eat as much meat as I can, and a lot of animal fat. I do not eat pasta, corn, rice soy, cereal nor dairy. But I do eat bread, though I know I should not. The problem is that my income is very limited, and I can not afford living on meat only. I am looking for a better source of income, so that I could stop eating bread.
As to coffee, I do drink it and I did not know I should not. I even remember Cs suggesting Laura to drink coffee during one session, to stabilize her mind. Perhaps I need to search more about it.

Well, bread is gluten and gluten is really horrible for your mind and emotions, along with your body. Coffee is not good for many people mentally and emotionally, and again, as well as physically.

Instead of bread, why not eat sweet potatoes, or green beans or lettuce, or, squash, or a combination of those? Gluten is very hard to stop because it is addictive. Eating these veggies is so much healthier than eating bread and the cost isn't that much difference. There's also quite a few (well actually a LOT) of excellent articles on sott.net about gluten and all of the damage it does. Maybe a good thing would be for you to watch this video about gluten and the damages it causes. And most people are sensitive to gluten. It's a poison, actually.

As far as coffee, why not try to drink black tea instead?

Anyway, this is all up to you. These are just suggestion to help clear the mind and emotions a bit, and help physically. And, also, to raise your frequency resonance vibrations a bit. If you start eating healthier, it changes many things. And some of those negative entities will find you unpalatable.

Well, I meant coming change, the Wave. I know what is coming,

How do you KNOW it is coming? Even Laura does not know for sure that it is coming. The Cs say it is coming, but there is nothing so far to prove that it is 100% coming. Something is coming, and all you have to do is look at what is going on around the world to see that things are coming to a head in some way or other. And that is something you can prepare for by preserving food, getting things together that can help you in an emergency situation, etc.

As far as protecting your son, I can understand why you feel this way. But only he can learn his lessons. You have been telling him things that he hasn't asked for. People don't come to what we discuss here until they are ready for the lessons. You are abridging your son's free will by trying to talk to him about things he doesn't want to hear. Especially since he is now 20 y.o.

You have a lot of work ahead of you for yourself. Many lessons to learn. So it is best if you get on with working on yourself instead of trying to save your son by telling him about the things you know and he isn't ready to hear yet. And the best way to learn about yourself is to network with other people who are working on themselves so they can show you the real you instead of the one you think you are.

There's also many good books in the Psychology & Cognitive Science board.

 

[ella]

I pushed the button "Post" instead of "Preview", sorry about that, I am tired. I hope moderator can delete it.

Sorry, I was not saying that because you wrote about yourself that you were narcissistic. I was implying that maybe, since you wrote all of that about yourself that you might be looking for help for yourself and not just your son.

No need to be sorry. When I started writing, my intention was to ask about my son only, then I thought I would need to give a little background, so you could understand better. And once I started writing, it just flowed out of me. Believe it or not, I did not realize how long it was. I wrote it in Word, pasted it and went to sleep. I did not expect any help like advise or anything. But again I was feeling a bit depressed at the moment and alone, so perhaps I just wanted to share, and that alone was so much help. Still I would remove most of it if I could. :)

Well, bread is gluten and gluten is really horrible for your mind and emotions, along with your body. Coffee is not good for many people mentally and emotionally, and again, as well as physically.

Instead of bread, why not eat sweet potatoes, or green beans or lettuce, or, squash, or a combination of those? Gluten is very hard to stop because it is addictive. Eating these veggies is so much healthier than eating bread and the cost isn't that much difference. There's also quite a few (well actually a LOT) of excellent articles on sott.net about gluten and all of the damage it does. Maybe a good thing would be for you to watch this video about gluten and the damages it causes. And most people are sensitive to gluten. It's a poison, actually.

As far as coffee, why not try to drink black tea instead?

Anyway, this is all up to you. These are just suggestion to help clear the mind and emotions a bit, and help physically. And, also, to raise your frequency resonance vibrations a bit. If you start eating healthier, it changes many things. And some of those negative entities will find you unpalatable.

I know about gluten, I am going to do it, and fast. I will think about coffee, I need to research, what is so wrong with it, to maybe get some motivation.
As to entities, they are already past, they have all gone.

Well, I meant coming change, the Wave. I know what is coming,

How do you KNOW it is coming? Even Laura does not know for sure that it is coming. The Cs say it is coming, but there is nothing so far to prove that it is 100% coming. Something is coming, and all you have to do is look at what is going on around the world to see that things are coming to a head in some way or other. And that is something you can prepare for by preserving food, getting things together that can help you in an emergency situation, etc.

Now I am surprised. After everything I have read here it seemed to me, that it is a done deal, just the matter of when. Like nobody had ever any doubts. And yes, I do believe what Cs say about it, should I not? I know that not everything in the transcripts is true, 79% or something, but the coming Wave seems to be at the core of all this. Maybe you just do not want me to anticipate the Wave, just work on myself?

As far as protecting your son, I can understand why you feel this way. But only he can learn his lessons. You have been telling him things that he hasn't asked for. People don't come to what we discuss here until they are ready for the lessons. You are abridging your son's free will by trying to talk to him about things he doesn't want to hear. Especially since he is now 20 y.o.

You have a lot of work ahead of you for yourself. Many lessons to learn. So it is best if you get on with working on yourself instead of trying to save your son by telling him about the things you know and he isn't ready to hear yet. And the best way to learn about yourself is to network with other people who are working on themselves so they can show you the real you instead of the one you think you are.

There's also many good books in the Psychology & Cognitive Science board.

Thank you, that you understand why I feel this way. I really understand all about the free will and lessons to be done in my mind. It is more difficult to put it into practice sometimes.

 

[Alana]

I pushed the button "Post" instead of "Preview", sorry about that, I am tired. I hope moderator can delete it.

Done.

Sorry, I was not saying that because you wrote about yourself that you were narcissistic. I was implying that maybe, since you wrote all of that about yourself that you might be looking for help for yourself and not just your son.

No need to be sorry. When I started writing, my intention was to ask about my son only, then I thought I would need to give a little background, so you could understand better. And once I started writing, it just flowed out of me. Believe it or not, I did not realize how long it was. I wrote it in Word, pasted it and went to sleep. I did not expect any help like advise or anything. But again I was feeling a bit depressed at the moment and alone, so perhaps I just wanted to share, and that alone was so much help. Still I would remove most of it if I could. :)

I am glad that you did not remove any of it, because it is with the information you give us that we can offer our help. And that information already gave you lots of good advice so far, didn't it?

Well, bread is gluten and gluten is really horrible for your mind and emotions, along with your body. Coffee is not good for many people mentally and emotionally, and again, as well as physically.

Instead of bread, why not eat sweet potatoes, or green beans or lettuce, or, squash, or a combination of those? Gluten is very hard to stop because it is addictive. Eating these veggies is so much healthier than eating bread and the cost isn't that much difference. There's also quite a few (well actually a LOT) of excellent articles on sott.net about gluten and all of the damage it does. Maybe a good thing would be for you to watch this video about gluten and the damages it causes. And most people are sensitive to gluten. It's a poison, actually.

As far as coffee, why not try to drink black tea instead?

Anyway, this is all up to you. These are just suggestion to help clear the mind and emotions a bit, and help physically. And, also, to raise your frequency resonance vibrations a bit. If you start eating healthier, it changes many things. And some of those negative entities will find you unpalatable.

I know about gluten, I am going to do it, and fast. I will think about coffee, I need to research, what is so wrong with it, to maybe get some motivation.
As to entities, they are already past, they have all gone.

You have nothing to lose by cutting out gluten completely and take a coffee break for a while, just to see how you feel without these substances (physically, mentally and psychologically). There's a thread here about coffee and members' experiences with it:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,27775.0.html

Well, I meant coming change, the Wave. I know what is coming,

How do you KNOW it is coming? Even Laura does not know for sure that it is coming. The Cs say it is coming, but there is nothing so far to prove that it is 100% coming. Something is coming, and all you have to do is look at what is going on around the world to see that things are coming to a head in some way or other. And that is something you can prepare for by preserving food, getting things together that can help you in an emergency situation, etc.

Now I am surprised. After everything I have read here it seemed to me, that it is a done deal, just the matter of when. Like nobody had ever any doubts. And yes, I do believe what Cs say about it, should I not? I know that not everything in the transcripts is true, 79% or something, but the coming Wave seems to be at the core of all this. Maybe you just do not want me to anticipate the Wave, just work on myself?

There's no reason to anticipate the Wave, since we are truly not certain what it is like, when will come, how it will manifest, and all that. I think it makes more sense and it's way more practical to focus on the things that Nienna describes above: the reality of the world around us, how can you prepare for whatever comes (food prices going up, economy going down, politico-societal events, chaotic weather) and how to learn the most you can about yourself and your programs, so that you can be able to control your emotions (and diet will help a lot with that too) so that they don't direct you anymore, and you become the director of your own life, where you make things happen, they don't happen to you. In whatever small way I understand the coming of the way, I think it is very much related to this growing awareness of ourselves and the world we inhabit, OSIT.

As far as protecting your son, I can understand why you feel this way. But only he can learn his lessons. You have been telling him things that he hasn't asked for. People don't come to what we discuss here until they are ready for the lessons. You are abridging your son's free will by trying to talk to him about things he doesn't want to hear. Especially since he is now 20 y.o.

You have a lot of work ahead of you for yourself. Many lessons to learn. So it is best if you get on with working on yourself instead of trying to save your son by telling him about the things you know and he isn't ready to hear yet. And the best way to learn about yourself is to network with other people who are working on themselves so they can show you the real you instead of the one you think you are.

There's also many good books in the Psychology & Cognitive Science board.

Thank you, that you understand why I feel this way. I really understand all about the free will and lessons to be done in my mind. It is more difficult to put it into practice sometimes.

It is indeed. That's why it's called Work, because we have to struggle every minute of our waking life to put these understandings we gain through readings and through feedback into practice. And the more you learn, the more you will understand that you don't know enough to teach anyone about anything, or so has been my experience. Sometimes letting things happen without trying to control them requires a little bit of faith to the cosmos that it knows better than us what needs to be done. The EE program helps a lot with cultivating this type of faith and calming our unquiet minds - even for a while, so that we are able to step back and out of ourselves to see the bigger picture. Is EE part of your daily practice?

 

[Menna]

Get to know your son talk about what you are interested in see if he takes interest. If he doesn't dont push him on it

 

[ella]

Well, I meant coming change, the Wave. I know what is coming,

How do you KNOW it is coming? Even Laura does not know for sure that it is coming. The Cs say it is coming, but there is nothing so far to prove that it is 100% coming. Something is coming, and all you have to do is look at what is going on around the world to see that things are coming to a head in some way or other. And that is something you can prepare for by preserving food, getting things together that can help you in an emergency situation, etc.

Now I am surprised. After everything I have read here it seemed to me, that it is a done deal, just the matter of when. Like nobody had ever any doubts. And yes, I do believe what Cs say about it, should I not? I know that not everything in the transcripts is true, 79% or something, but the coming Wave seems to be at the core of all this. Maybe you just do not want me to anticipate the Wave, just work on myself?

There's no reason to anticipate the Wave, since we are truly not certain what it is like, when will come, how it will manifest, and all that. I think it makes more sense and it's way more practical to focus on the things that Nienna describes above: the reality of the world around us, how can you prepare for whatever comes (food prices going up, economy going down, politico-societal events, chaotic weather) and how to learn the most you can about yourself and your programs, so that you can be able to control your emotions (and diet will help a lot with that too) so that they don't direct you anymore, and you become the director of your own life, where you make things happen, they don't happen to you. In whatever small way I understand the coming of the way, I think it is very much related to this growing awareness of ourselves and the world we inhabit, OSIT.

Got the message, thank you. This no anticipation thing is difficult to overcome. I try to pay close attention to it in everyday life, still did not really see, that waiting for the Wave is also an anticipation. And it is difficult not to anticipate after all this reading about it coming, even Cs gave an approximate date, like in the middle of 2014.
But then instead of doing the Work just to stop being a machine and living on lies, so that to become the director of my own life, as you said, to become free, I rush, because the Wave is coming and I must be ready, and then I panic, because I am afraid that the time is short, and I am the late comer etc. etc. and then I simply block my progress.
After thinking about all this now I can clearly see, that this anticipation of the Wave coming soon is my biggest obstacle. Because it causes me fear, that I do not have enough time. And it is the same with my son, really. It was exactly this fear of a short time left, that caused me to try to push him, otherwise I would not have done this.

As far as protecting your son, I can understand why you feel this way. But only he can learn his lessons. You have been telling him things that he hasn't asked for. People don't come to what we discuss here until they are ready for the lessons. You are abridging your son's free will by trying to talk to him about things he doesn't want to hear. Especially since he is now 20 y.o.

You have a lot of work ahead of you for yourself. Many lessons to learn. So it is best if you get on with working on yourself instead of trying to save your son by telling him about the things you know and he isn't ready to hear yet. And the best way to learn about yourself is to network with other people who are working on themselves so they can show you the real you instead of the one you think you are.

There's also many good books in the Psychology & Cognitive Science board.

Thank you, that you understand why I feel this way. I really understand all about the free will and lessons to be done in my mind. It is more difficult to put it into practice sometimes.

It is indeed. That's why it's called Work, because we have to struggle every minute of our waking life to put these understandings we gain through readings and through feedback into practice. And the more you learn, the more you will understand that you don't know enough to teach anyone about anything, or so has been my experience. Sometimes letting things happen without trying to control them requires a little bit of faith to the cosmos that it knows better than us what needs to be done. The EE program helps a lot with cultivating this type of faith and calming our unquiet minds - even for a while, so that we are able to step back and out of ourselves to see the bigger picture. Is EE part of your daily practice?

The sentence you said: “The more you learn, the more you will understand that you don't know enough to teach anyone about anything”, it is very true. I imagined myself to have accomplished more, then I really did. This is what I see after this interaction with you.

I practice EE program, I loved the Prayer of the Soul since I heard it for the first time. I never liked any prayers, but this one is different.

 

[Voyageur]

[quote author=jasminum ]

The sentence you said: “The more you learn, the more you will understand that you don't know enough to teach anyone about anything”, it is very true. I imagined myself to have accomplished more, then I really did. This is what I see after this interaction with you.

I practice EE program, I loved the Prayer of the Soul since I heard it for the first time. I never liked any prayers, but this one is different.
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Hi jasminum, great you caught that, as for PotS, it is indeed different. Welcome to the forum anew after two years! :)

 

[ella]

[quote author=jasminum ]

The sentence you said: “The more you learn, the more you will understand that you don't know enough to teach anyone about anything”, it is very true. I imagined myself to have accomplished more, then I really did. This is what I see after this interaction with you.

I practice EE program, I loved the Prayer of the Soul since I heard it for the first time. I never liked any prayers, but this one is different.

Hi jasminum, great you caught that, as for PotS, it is indeed different. Welcome to the forum anew after two years! :)
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Welcome :)
Feels really good to be back.