Hi Lauranimal -
More on the number 9 from Laura:
"When we look at the number nine, and all the "lore" that has arisen around it since Gurdjieff brought it forth in his work, which, in my opinion, may have been deliberate disinfo - or was just simply misunderstood ... we find that nine is arrived at by adding two to seven. If seven is the number of completion, adding two to it is a symbolic re-dividing - i.e. recycling. The wheel of karma...
When we look at numbers, it is always interesting to see how they are used in some of the ancient literature as clues.
We find in the Bible, for example, that on the second day of creation in the first creation story that god performed a separating act: separating the waters above from the waters below...
The symbology of these numbers is important in another way. The result of the rules of numerology applied to the number 666 is 9: 6+6+6=18; 1+8=9. Nine is not only the name number of the beast, it is the product of 3 squared, or divine completion. We can also see in these numbers man's attempt to usurp the position of God -- 6 repeated 3 times -- or the number of man arranged as the divine trinity.
It has been said that nine symbolically signifies finality, completion, fulfillment. There are the nine beatitudes, nine gifts of the spirit, nine fruits of the spirit, and the words of Christ at the ninth hour: "It is finished!" This is echoed in Revelation: "Then the seventh angel emptied out his bowl into the air, and a mighty voice came out of the sanctuary of heaven from the throne, saying, It is done!" (16:17)
There are other clues to the meaning of the number nine. In the story of the ten lepers in Luke 17, only one, a Samaritan, turned back and thanked Jesus for his cleansing and Jesus asked "Were not ten cleansed? Where are the nine?" Was there no one found to return and to recognize and give thanks and praise to God except this alien?"
In Nehemiah 11, more light is shed upon the symbology of nine: "Now the leaders of the people dwelt at Jerusalem; the rest of the people also cast lots, to bring one of ten to dwell in Jerusalem the holy city, while nine tenths dwelt in other towns and villages."
Gurdjieff said:
"There is an even more esoteric meaning to the number nine which I will describe only briefly because it is extremely complex and much study is required to understand the fundamentals behind it. There is a certain symbol which takes the form of a circle divided into nine parts with lines connecting the nine points of the circumference in a certain order... The circle is divided into nine equal parts. Six points are connected by a figure which is symmetrical in relation to a diameter passing through the uppermost point of the divisions of the circumference. Further, the uppermost point of the divisions is the apex of an equilateral triangle linking together the points of the divisions which do not enter into the construction of the original complicated figure...
This symbol cannot be met with anywhere in the study of occultism, either in books or in oral transmission. It was given such significance by those who knew, that they considered it necessary to keep the knowledge of it secret. Only some hints and partial representations of it can be met with in literature...
(This) symbol expresses the law of seven in its union with the law of three. The octave possesses seven tones and the eighth is a repetition of the first. Together with the two (additional elements) there are nine elements...
The isolated existence of a thing or phenomenon under examination is the closed circle of an eternally returning and uninterruptedly flowing process. The succession of stages in the process must be connected with the succession of the remaining numbers from 1 to 9. The presence of the ninth step filling up the interval completes the cycle, that is, it closes the circle, which begins anew at this point...
Therefore every beginning and completion of the cycle is situated in the apex of the triangle, in the point where the beginning and the end merge, where the circle is closed, and which sounds in the endlessly flowing cycle...
But it is the ninth step that closes and again begins a cycle." [Gurdjieff, quoted by Ouspensky, In Search of the Miraculous]
In short, Gurdjieff was telling us that this number was the number of the Time Loop - the endless recycling. And we must note that this "new cycle" implies a new cycle of 3rd density. So, yes, nine is an important number... for entrapment of humanity."