How did we come to be?

Solie123

Jedi Council Member
Warning: This is going to be a long post, as I figured the best way anyone can help me is if i share the important parts of my thinking process - so you all can get a general idea of where I am confused (and provide a specific answer, source, or link). I am behind in my reading, and I admit to my ignorance, and perhaps, some of my theories might be wrong, but it's also why I'm asking for feedback, as this is something I've been speculating for a very long time. It's hard to see the bigger picture, when you have so many pieces missing...

Recently I've been reading a few articles across the cassiopaea website, and I just picked up the wave - in a few transcripts with the C's has stated that us humans, were engineered on the plant Dorlaqua from the Orion complex.

This has left me with a few thoughts, as I've heard quite a few theories on where we as "human" come from. One theory is "humans came from outer space - the first time I heard this theory, I had to sit down and really contemplate it. At some point I sat outside and watched the world we lived in and immediately I thought, 'we don't belong here..' I saw trains, cars and buildings, and fences, and I thought, how do we possibly fit with the rest of life on earth? If we exist, just as we are today, where does a tiger fit by a driving car? Where does an elephant fit at a railroad crossing? Where does a ground mole fit within or cement sidewalks, and roads? The rest of the earth cannot exist with humans... They don't 'fit' within our city dynamic. Granted, not that this is the only way humans could possibly ever exist, but something is strange about the way everything has played out.

This brings me to evolution, and again, my thoughts go back and forth, because before I can even think about evolution, and the 'intelligent design' I have to sit and ponder about us humans again... if evolution is the answer (again just expanding on the idea, not to say it can’t be a few things at play) I don’t believe ‘evolution’ would basically bring itself to an ‘end.’ What I mean by this, is back to what I wrote in the latter paragraph about how the rest of life on earth cannot thrive within our human ‘dynamics.’ If the world continues on the path it is right now, the rest of life on Earth will continue to decline. And maybe this is just a silly thought, but when I think about evolution and the intelligence design, the way it works in my head is: the planet as a whole evolves, life adapts to the conditions around it, and everything thrives off each other, in a sort of harmonious way, (at least that’s the way I’ve been told it works) and so on and so forth. I don’t think evolution is simply the survival of one species. It wouldn't even make sense, as us human cannot survive without the rest of the life on Earth. Yet again, by just being, we destroy any chance of other life forms truly progressing.

Then you have to look around yet again, and at other life forms on earth, past and present and you see kind of a pattern. What I mean by this is, you see the life on Earth in every stage of life form is sort of all the same with in themselves: Dinosaur’s never really went out of a ‘norm,’ but if it did, the rest soon caught up. I guess what I’m trying to say is, every creature appeared to ‘fit,’ and to survive with in its world, if we’re a product of evolution, I’m pretty sure the rest of the planet should be competing with us, just like it has always (That we know of). There should be other intelligent beings on this planet, maybe not as intelligent, but competing - it took us just as long as it took them to evolve (speaking within the terms of evolution), yet it doesn't seem like the rest of the world has ‘caught’ up.

Yet you can’t deny evolution, there’s obviously some kind of merit in it (unless it’s a hoax). The reason a lot of us here do the keto diet, is because of the belief of how it played with the way we evolved, allowing our brains to grow. The resemblance of us and primates is absolutely undeniable.
We were engineered within Orion, we’re outsiders, yet this planet has somehow strangely nurtured us, as if we were completely belonged to her. It’s both? But if so how? Did they just throw us here on Earth, but then where does all this ‘evidence’ of evolution come from? How is it that the diet we received on Earth explains so much of our being? Or perhaps evolution was taking place here on earth, and maybe they just took a few candidates here and there and modified them slowly over time, put them back, let them thrive, and repeat, until they got the perfect ‘home’ for the right exact soul group they wanted to attract.

Has anybody found any puzzle pieces to this? Has anyone ever speculated about this? Is there something I’m missing or possibly wrong about? I NEED FEEDBACK!!! :scared:
 
Hi Solie 123. I read all the questions you're asking and see your inquisitive nature but, maybe pause for a moment, and finish reading The Wave. I've read it ten, twelve or more times and the first time I practically didn't sleep but felt invigorated anyway. It's nourishment and it's an opportunity. Then I started researching many of the different ideas in the book and I gained knowledge in all sorts of areas I never particularly studied in school. I grew. So will you and many wonderful things may then form in you. You can follow that with Secret History of the World if you choose. With Secret History I would have twenty, thirty or forty pages of research going all at one time on the computer. It's fun what is stimulated within you and there's no substitute for learning how to think for yourself and building your knowledge base.

Please know that in no way do I want to put you off writing and expressing yourself on the forum as that is not my intent. I think you would perhaps be better served in this thread by reading a bit more first, using the search function and going through the transcripts.
 
Solie 123, I think it is good that you are asking questions. Now this Forum is huge and there may be answers to some of your questions in here, you may search through it.
Rest assured that you are not the only one searching for answers, and the amount of information available here is simply staggering, perhaps if you break it down a little and prioritise your searching, so that you search out answers for your most urgent questions first, and see what pops up.
In addition there are the articles which are available for free on the web site home page, as well as those books and DVDs you can purchase from the products page.
However you play it, have fun.
 
Hi Solie123!

Those are very good questions and they seem to be really burning inside you, that's great! :thup:

I think that having such questions is incredibly important for our learning process.

I definitively haven't got the answers for them, but I remembered that they discuss this in The Wave, so I did a quick search:

Q: (L) What was the flaming sword barring re-entry to Eden?

A: Symbolizes trap.

Q: (L) Where was Eden?

A: Earth.

Q: (L) The entire earth was Eden?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Was the “fall” in Eden, or the loss of the Edenic state, also accompanied by a cataclysm?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) What was the nature of that cataclysm?

A: Comets.

Q: (L) The cluster you have mentioned before?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And, how long ago did this occur?

A: 309882 years ago.

Q: (L) What was the true identity of the serpent in Eden?

A: Lizards.

Q: (L) Was the loss of the Edenic state also accompanied by a takeover of mankind by the Lizzies?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Well, then how did mankind come to be here?

A: Combination of factors. Numerous souls desired physical existence then were altered by three forces including principally Lizards through Grays, Nephalim and Orion union.

Q: (L) About these three forces. You said numerous souls desired physical existence. When the numerous souls did this, how did physical existence come to be?

A: First was apelike.

Q: (L) And then what happened? Did these apelike beings just pop into the air? What did the souls do with these apelike beings?

A: Souls altered them by transfer into seeded bodies. Orion Union was first to put human souls in for incubation process thereby producing Neanderthal.

Q: (L) Are you saying that genetically altered ape embryos were put back into ape females for gestation?

A: No. Souls only.

Q: (L) They put the souls into the ape-like bodies?

A: Close. The soul’s presence in the ape body causes its genetics and DNA to change.

Q: (L) So, human souls entered into living creatures on this planet to experience third density reality and by entering in caused mutation?

A: Yes. Then were altered by Orion Union first. They resemble you.

Q: (L) Who resembles us?

A: The Orions. Orion Union. There are others in the Orion Community.

http://cassiopaea.org/2010/05/08/the-wave-chapter-3-dorothy-and-the-frog-prince-meet-flight-19-in-oz-or-i-dont-think-were-in-kansas-anymore/

Of course it might bring up even more questions, but I'm sure reading the whole chapter (and why not the book? ;) ) would bring some more pieces to your puzzle, or help connect some dots.

You might also be interested in this thread here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25383.0.html

And this one is a must! ;D http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,30378.msg395509.html#msg395509

Just my 2 cents here...

Enjoy the reading and keep it up with the inquisitive mind! :cool2:
 
Solie123 said:
We were engineered within Orion, we’re outsiders, yet this planet has somehow strangely nurtured us, as if we were completely belonged to her. It’s both? But if so how? Did they just throw us here on Earth, but then where does all this ‘evidence’ of evolution come from?

"Engineered" doesn't mean that a complete ready made human being was "thrown on earth" (see Yas' session quotes). In that light your questions above are not mutually exclusive, but can coexist.

The whole evolution 'evidence' somehow always struck me as peculiar, though. When I heard here that 4thD STS can travel back and forth in time inserting and altering stuff, "evolution" is a good candidate for that. There are many holes in that theory, so I guess if it was inserted later, it was not possible to do it foolproof.

My2cents

M.T.
 
Solie123 said:
Has anybody found any puzzle pieces to this? Has anyone ever speculated about this? Is there something I’m missing or possibly wrong about? I NEED FEEDBACK!!! :scared:
I feel it's helpful to consider that there's our material existence and also what appears to exist without being dependant on materiality, so to speak. So, if it's true then that your body dies and your awareness doesn't die with it, logically speaking awareness would have to be part of this non-material existence.

For me there seems to be at least a couple of distinct types of awareness, one that is self aware and a higher form that has the capacity to have free will. This higher form is much rarer and maybe what's said to be a soul. So there's a lot of sense to what the C's were saying. First there's these monkeys who are self aware enough to be able to respond, survive and procreate in their environment. Then say they evolved into close enough what resembles modern man physically and then hey presto the conditions were right for a soul type awareness to experience reality. This of course would change the direction of physical evolution quite dramatically too. Because there's free will I suppose the option is to evolve into a higher form or devolve into lower forms. So maybe that's what some of the huge variety of human remains in size and shape over the 100 of thousands of years was about? Just a loose theory.
 
Yas said:
You might also be interested in this thread here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25383.0.html

And this one is a must! ;D http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,30378.msg395509.html#msg395509

Just my 2 cents here...

Enjoy the reading and keep it up with the inquisitive mind! :cool2:

Thanks for posting those link's very interesting, I have Nagel's book, but have yet to read it,
but it's next on the list.
 
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