KentoShi said:
I'm interested in knowing how it is that Laura can speak to the C's, and if she is the only one who does?
Also, if it is possible to learn how. I mean, I think I understand talking to the selves, but what I'm interested in are the "sessions" and how to achieve that form of communication.
Tanks
Tony.
Well, despite the fact that people like Vincent Bridges keep referring to the Cs as "aliens", that is not the case. They never, EVER identified themselves as "aliens" in the sense that he intends it.
Let me explain: In the very first contact with the Cs, this exchange occurred:
July 16, 19941
Frank, Candy and Laura
Q: Hello.
A: Hello.
Q: Do you have any messages for us?
A: Keep doing what comes naturally.
Q. (L) In what respect?
A: Study.
Q: (L) What is your name?
A: Mucpeor.
Q: (L) Are you an alien from another planet?
A: Alien from your perspective, yes.
Q: (L) What is your group called?
A: Corsas.
[...]
Q: (L) What planet are you from?
A: Corsoca.
Q: Where is that?
A: 2 DILOR. [Some confusion about this as the planchette had begun to mover rather quickly and this is not complete.]
Notice:
1) In response to the question "are you an alien from another planet", the response did not confirm that assumption, but rather was "alien from your perspective."
2) Then, the assumption was pushed with the question: "What planet are you from?" Keep in mind that this was our first interaction with the Cs and we were not yet familiar with their way of "teaching" that developed over time. Anyway, the answer was "Corsoca." This was the first "coded message" from the Cs.
You see, I was, at that point in time, reading Jacques Vallee's book "Revelations". At the beginning of each section, there are quotes from
Cassilda's Song in The King in Yellow, Act 1, Scene 2, by Robert W. Chambers. The Song goes:
Strange is the night where black stars rise,
And strange moons circle through the skies,
But stranger still is... Lost Carcosa.
Songs that the Pleiades shall sing,
Where flap the tatters of the King,
Must die unheard in ... Dim Carcosa.
Along the shore the cloud waves break,
The twin suns sink behind the lake,
The shadows lengthen... In Carcosa.
So, of course, having just read this poem, I was immediately struck by the similarity of Corsoca to Carcosa. In fact, I can't even swear that the Cs did not spell out Carcosa because the unusual nature of the event of the first contact with the Cs was a bit disorienting and I wasn't the one writing the notes. It should be remembered that we did not tape the sessions at this point, so there was no way to confirm what was said except from the notes written by a person who was dyslexic!!!
Anyway, the very fact that this clue system was there at the beginning is loaded with implication. No one else in the room who were participating that night was aware that I was reading this book or that this poem had been running through my mind. The obvious interpretation, considering all else that was said during that session, is that whoever the Cs were/are, wherever they were transmitting from/through, it was totally entangled with my own subconscious or higher consciousness.
As the contact developed, the Cs expanded on their identity stating that they were me "in the future" and that I was part of a larger soul group, perhaps similar to what the Ra material calls a "social memory complex." This topic is touched on numerous times in the sessions and later questions and explanations confirm this view.
Unfortunately, Tom French, of the St. Pete Times, used the "channeling aliens " thing as a way to sell more papers, I guess. He made other errors in his article such as confusing me and some of my questions or information from the Cs with that of guests. But that's journalism for you.
So, the answer to one part of your question is that I can "speak to the Cs" because I am some part of them, or they are some part of me, however you want to look at it.
As to who else can talk to them in a similar way? Probably only those who are also some part of them, or of whom they are a part; i.e. members of the same soul group. A question was asked about this at one point:
Q: So, you are us in the future, we are you in the past - when you say this, are you "us"
in the future in the sense of ALL mankind, or in the sense of any particular group of
mankind?
A: In between those limited options.
This speaks to the idea of a soul grouping, 1) all of which members may not be known to each other in this reality or 2) some members of the group may not exist in this reality or at this level.
As to "talking to the Cs" specifically, they answered that question themselves:
Q: (L) Okay, I'll shut up! (BRH) Is there any way I can
contact you guys directly?
A: Well, Devin, only if you present yourself into the
presence of these 3rd densities here. Remember, their
request was hard earned, and one of them has been
channeling throughout this incarnation, much to his
detriment. Those neighborhood kids usually do not respond
favorably to psychic awareness, now do they? Another one
here has literally turned the world upside down in search
of the greatest truths for all of humanity, much to her
potential peril. And the third one here had to endure
almost unimaginable hardships and tests of stamina in
order to realize his destined path of bringing your 3rd
density realm to the brink of 4th density transitional
adjustment. So, the path is open to you. Wanna follow?!?
Notice that the only qualification for "Frank" was that he had been "channeling, much to his detriment." I think that this is clarified in a later session as follows:
January 10, 2002
[...]
Q: As you know, we have become aware this evening of "Frank's" extraordinary conversion to the dark side. Is that an accurate way of perceiving it?
A: Close enough.
Q: Quite a few years ago, there were several remarks made on two or three occasions regarding Frank's battle with the Dark Forces, and the issue of whether or not he would be able to resist their domination. Was it always known that he would fail?
A: He is not a failure.
Q: What do you mean?
A: From the perspective of STS he is a success.
Q: Why was it that we were able to channel STO material, with Frank being so borderline regarding this ultimate choice between STS and STO?
A: He was programmed for the specific purpose of "downloading" from you secrets coded into you before birth of your present body. He failed because you were incorruptible. He is now charged with the mission, in concert with Vincent Bridges, of destroying your ability to accomplish your mission.
Q: Well, that means that there is a strong possibility that the material that came through while "Frank" was a participant was very likely corrupted. Is that why you gave the figure of 72 percent purity of the material regarding those sessions?
A: Yes.
Q: So, are you saying that Frank's presence produced that 30 percent corruption?
A: Yes.
So, if you put together:
... one of them has been
channeling throughout this incarnation, much to his
detriment. Those neighborhood kids usually do not respond
favorably to psychic awareness, now do they?
with
He was programmed for the specific purpose of "downloading" from you secrets coded into you before birth of your present body. He failed because you were incorruptible. He is now charged with the mission, in concert with Vincent Bridges, of destroying your ability to accomplish your mission.
... you begin to understand what the Cs meant by channeling being detrimental to Frank.
Frank had many memories of abductions and pretty terrible interactions with dark beings happening to him all through his childhood. Some of it was actually conscious!
Frank really was gifted in a vacuum cleaner sort of way. He could look at your palm and, by holding your hand, tap into whatever was in your subconscious in a really freaky way. He once told me that I was going to have a flat tire in the following week, and even what tire it would be (left front, if I remember correctly). That is pretty strong evidence of the fact that he could "vacuum" out of a person stuff that was part of their own psychic awareness even if they were not aware themselves. Obviously, somewhere in my subconscious I knew that this tire on my car was iffy and I could even have been aware, psychically speaking, that the event was going to happen, but it was not able to get through to my strong conscious mind that was occupied with so many other things.
In that sense, working with Frank was very useful because he provided the "ground" for the inducing of the content of my subconscious and/or higher conscious to create a "conduit" into my conscious mind, while my conscious mind was fully active and could therefore employ a robust feed-back mechanism for self- training so that I could continue at will on my own. In the early days of "chatting with the Cs", their responses were most often a surprise to me - completely NOT what my conscious mind would have "thought." As time went by, as the conduit, or circuit, in my psyche developed and strengthened, I began to "know" milliseconds in advance what the response was. I also noticed that, as my own ability to tap into this "field" grew and developed, Frank became more and more "passive" in the "channeling" process until finally, it wasn't even necessary for him to be there at all.
In short, if Frank was programmed to download, my subconscious was aware of it at some level and delivered a lot of material in "codes" that could only be understood by me in the context of the broader perspective of my inner landscape. In this sense, as so often happens, a plan by dark forces backfired on them. He was sent to download stuff from me that had been blocked from my conscious awareness, and in the process, only helped me to be able to access it myself.
It always surprised me that Frank didn't have a clue about the perspective of the Cs, that he could, in his conscious conversation, be so totally clueless and even unaware of things that had been said by them. It was as though nothing the Cs ever said was ever a part of him at all. He absorbed and assimilated nothing at all! His views and ideas diverged so widely from what the Cs said that I was shocked on more than one occasion!
As to whether or not you will be able to learn to "achieve that form of communication", that depends on what you mean. If you mean communicating with the Cs, specifically, that would depend on whether or not you are a member of that soul group or social memory complex. You may be a member of a different soul group, in which case that would be the one you would communicate with should you be able to develop the circuit.
For example, there are the "Pleiadians" and the "Andromedans" and others. I would suggest that these "contacts" were similar to the Cs only they were with different "soul groups". Further, because of the methods those individuals used for accessing the subconscious, the circuits were not purified by the robust conscious feedback mechanism that is possible to achieve by utilizing a board type instrument. Certainly the Pleiadian material of Barbara Marciniak is superior to the Andromedan material, but there are still issues of signal vs. noise in the transmission that are problematical.
Jane Roberts and "Seth" are an interesting case in point. Seth clearly states that he is part of Jane's "soul group," though I don't think he used those exact terms nor did he mean it exactly in that context. I believe that he claimed to be other incarnations of Jane herself. In that sense, he was "Jane in the past" rather than Jane in the future. Note also that she developed her own abilities utilizing a ouija board.
Hope this helps.
