How to cope with "extinction"?

[aragorn]

Hi,

I've been reading alot of your articles and posts about comets, asteroids and the high probability of a comet cluster. I thank you for bringing the attention to these matters, it all sounds logical. However after reading all the information, I'm struck by a creepy feeling of total helplesness and sadness.

I just wanted to ask you guys, how do you cope with all these forecasts of extinction? The most of you seem to take the matter quite calmly-or so it seems. I know, there's nothing one can do about it, one should just accept it, but still... It maybe naive for me to ask for "soothing" thougts, but I wanted to ask anyway-is there any hope?

p.s. The fact that me and my wife are soon to have our first child doesn't make the coping any easier-I feel responsible(duh!) and quilty for bringin a baby into this mess :(

 

[bikernina]

Your anxiety sounds like its balanced between a new baby on the way and recent awareness of what has been going on for eternities.
It is natural you want the best for your child's future. That is a universal want.
But what you see as best will be different for the next generation's vision of best. They adapt accordingly, you'll see. A parents' job is to encourage awareness, open mindedess, critical thinking and and an independent spirit supported initially by your love, your wisdom, a little guidance, a lot of understanding and appreciation of their experience and efforts. Your child is going to be born into a world of global information overflow. If what I am already seeing among my child's peers is an example, they are stronger, harder, better prepared for the total journey of life than we grownups ever were. Imagine coming into a world where you already know the score?

 

[the_hammer]

I'm sorry bikernina.
Your post sounds a lot more like wishful thinking to me than based on any real evidence. Of course one wants the best for ones child, but with all that's going on at the moment, one would have to be blind for believing in what you have written IMO of course. Personally i wouldn't bring a child into this mess, nor would i encourage anyone to join the love and light brigade to feel better about the situation that we are in.

Of course one could hope that the newcomers are only a few lessons away and that is why they have joined now, but i wouldn't count on it, since there isn't any real evidence to suggest this change. Not where i live anyway.

 

[bikernina]

What you appear to be saying is the world is a terrible place now, let it go. Its beyond repair. Which sounds hopeless, literally thowing out the baby with the bathwater.
But, one and more of these children, particularly children born to aware, responsible and honest parents, may just come up with some solutions. Children can be encouraged in responsibility from day one. Its up to the parent/s. Let us welcome them with respect and honor their existence. Let us give them all the tools they will need to turn around these dark times.

Furthermore, children are coming whether we debate it or not. If they know what is going on, they're already a step ahead. Aragon doesn't sound like he's living in a vaccuum. More parents-to-be need to be askiing these questions.

If all the awareness you possess, Hammer, at your current age, was instilled into an interested, adoring child, keen on your every word, imagine how much more capable of global solutions such a child might be?

The future will not tolerate a chaotic problem/solution mobstyle ego game, but a solutions-only environment.
Any child of the present can see there are problems. They will see worse before it gets better. But a child enouraged to take responsibilty will never see anything as an unsolvable problem, rather they will see situations where the truth has not been applied and go about the business of applying it.

All problems are all about denial of responsiblity and solutions based obsfucation of truth always fail.

 

[anart]

What you appear to be saying is the world is a terrible place now, let it go. Its beyond repair. Which sounds hopeless, literally thowing out the baby with the bathwater.
But, one and more of these children, particularly children born to aware, responsible and honest parents, may just come up with some solutions. Children can be encouraged in responsibility from day one. Its up to the parent/s. Let us welcome them with respect and honor their existence. Let us give them all the tools they will need to turn around these dark times.

It seems to me that it is important to keep in mind that the future is open.

Furthermore, children are coming whether we debate it or not. If they know what is going on, they're already a step ahead. Aragon doesn't sound like he's living in a vaccuum. More parents-to-be need to be askiing these questions.

And there is the consideration that (Free Will) choice may have been made to enter this reality at this time.

If all the awareness you possess, Hammer, at your current age, was instilled into an interested, adoring child, keen on your every word, imagine how much more capable of global solutions such a child might be?

Well, it might not be as simple as that, since humanity is mechanical - even children who are born with knowledge from previous lives lose that over time - there is the 'big forgetting' - there is sleep and the normal state of humanity is mechanical sleep - so - such awareness cannot be 'instilled' and even such knowledge may not be so easily ' instilled' - how many adoring children keen on your every word turn into adolescents who hate the sound of your voice?

However, I do understand your point and agree that if every child on the planet were told from the get go exactly what this reality entails, then the whole world would be different. Unfortunately, that is not how it is and there is likely a reason for that - we are trapped - and we are likely held as food of one sort or another and the 'farmers' wouldn't allow such a thing, since an informed herd is an unruly herd (or perhaps not a herd at all).

The future will not tolerate a chaotic problem/solution mobstyle ego game, but a solutions-only environment.

Not really sure what you mean by this. How can you know what the future will and will not 'allow'?

Any child of the present can see there are problems.

How can you say such a thing? Most children of the present cannot see past their TV screen or their video game - so I think you may be taking what you hope to be true as the truth in this instance.

They will see worse before it gets better.

As we all will and it might not 'get better' for anyone in this lifetime.

But a child enouraged to take responsibilty will never see anything as an unsolvable problem, rather they will see situations where the truth has not been applied and go about the business of applying it.

In a sense, this is true, but do you think 'applying the truth' is a simple thing in this world today? In what instance do you see this working right now - on a societal or global scale? The reason I ask is that you seem to not be noticing that the entire globe is controlled by psychopaths in power. How does a child of today go about applying the truth? I agree wholeheartedly that it is a wonderful idea and that it would make all the difference in the world, but I suppose my question is how do you think we get from 'here' to 'there' - where such a thing could even happen?

All problems are all about denial of responsiblity and solutions based obsfucation of truth always fail.

I would tend to generally agree - in a world without psychopaths in power - however, we do NOT live in that world.

With that said, if cataclysms follow the human experiential cycle, then it seems that if all of those capable of seeing where we are headed at this point, which is without question a tumultuous place, can utilize every day to become more aware, more conscious, more empathetic and more invested in the Truth, then a difference might be made.

I also think that the idea of a non-linear effect might be the key - we cannot know what effect our efforts will have at this point - all we can really know is that if we do nothing, we will die, and probably much sooner than we envisioned as children. All we can do is stand up for the truth in our own lives to prove that there are human beings on this planet who value nothing more than the truth - the 'solution' may not be anything we've previously imagined it to be and if all there is is lessons, then what better way to learn.

The raw fact of the matter is that psychopaths have driven the world to the edge of a precipice from which we will likely not escape - especially with the vast majority of normal humanity wholly unaware of the situation and choosing, every day in every thing, lies over the truth.

Aragon, I suppose, for me, the hope comes from the fact that until I finally started to figure out what was really going on, absolutely nothing mattered. Now, the Truth matters - and that is a difference that is difficult to verbalize. If our lives have meaning, then it is in the learning - so - perhaps heading forward determined to continue to learn and to stand up for the truth will make a difference - and consider that this child comes into this situation will full knowledge of what is upcoming - and with a chance to learn what could not be learned otherwise. fwiw.

 

[aragorn]

Aragon, I suppose, for me, the hope comes from the fact that until I finally started to figure out what was really going on, absolutely nothing mattered. Now, the Truth matters - and that is a difference that is difficult to verbalize. If our lives have meaning, then it is in the learning - so - perhaps heading forward determined to continue to learn and to stand up for the truth will make a difference - and consider that this child comes into this situation will full knowledge of what is upcoming - and with a chance to learn what could not be learned otherwise. fwiw.

Yes, that resonates with me. It's like the wisdom in Laura's signature. And yes, I do believe that every new generation of free thinking people, with that little extra spark in them that makes them seek the truth, are more capable and wiser than the previous ones-it's "designed" that way. Let's just hope they can find it and see it them selves. But now, with the high probability of the cycle (of this 3d-material world that is) coming to it's end, it seems like the time is running out!

But then again, maybe I, after my previous life, decided to enter the 3d-earth just in this time of history-to learn exactly this lesson. I hope this kid of ours knows what his doing entering here...LOL.

Now, I just want to shortly go back and talk about this comet-business. I believe that I've only scratched the surface of things with my few days of reading, but there's a few thoughts and questions I'd like to toss out to you. (I've tried to use the search engine to avoid any repetition here, but somehow my searches end up kind of diffuse; maybe I'm doing it wrong somehow). So here goes:

- All this talk and evidence about underground bases; could it be that the power elite are planning to hide and take shelter there when the comets start pounding? Is this a good way of reducing the population - leave us out on the surface while they're hiding?

- Could it be that the previous civilizations that got destroyed already done this? Did the "elite" of that time take shelter underground, and most importantly, are they still with us? I know it sounds outlandish, but all these sightings of UFOs emerging from the see (like Bill Cooper's story) could suggest that there's something going on underground.

- If they already have forehand knowledge of an incoming disaster, wouldn't you assume that some scientists would blow the whistle? I mean they would have nothing to loose,facing an anyway certain death. Or maybe they and their families have been promised sheltering.

- There where mentions of these shorter cyclical catastrophic events, like the 3600 year cycle. Now, the dinosaurs did rule many million years. Didn't they suffer from these "smaller" events?

- This last one sounds really silly, but I toss it out anyway: Surely these beings of higher dimensions have knowledge of coming catastrophic events. And these sinister beings, who benefit and feed of the misery of man surely want to continue doing so. So maybe they have promised to fix this comet-business, if the power elite provide more misery and control on earth. And that would be why their speeding up the NWO-process, they've made a pact.

Sorry, many silly questions and too little research of my own. It's just that my brain is going warp speed over this comet business. Just had to let out some steam ;)

 

[Ryan]

Aragorn, you may want to read Laura's excellent article, "The Hope" if you haven't already. I'll quote what I think is a relevant paragraph for your enquiry:

If, as I wrote above, the crisis in Human Affairs is a reflection of the "Heat" in our Solar System, just as there was obviously increasing heat in the solar system accompanying other periods of human crisis, and prior to other Cosmic Catastrophes, then the only hope is to wake up as many other people as possible with the hope of ameliorating the OUTCOME of any future disasters by being prepared. Only when a sufficient number of people are awake will they be able to awaken those around them. And then, and only then, will it be possible to form a united movement to simply remove all support from the psychopaths that have taken over our world and to begin to plan for the future of our children - not the offspring of psychopaths.

That is why they lie and deceive us; that is why they work so hard and spend so much money denying humanity the knowledge it needs. Because if people were awake, if people understood what kinds of creatures they really are, that they really are not human, then they would have no more support. And that is how the do what they do: because human beings support and help them to get into and stay in power by believing their lies.

If every soldier on the battlefield simply laid down his gun and refused to fight anymore, if every worker who is employed by the government system to keep the "chain of command" running, simply refused to participate in the madness anymore, and did so with the support of the rest of the people, en masse, the nightmare would be one big step toward being over.

Then, and only then, could we rationally and systematically begin to prepare our Planet Home for the Coming Storm. And even if all of us cannot survive - we can ensure that some of our children will, and they will survive without being reduced to howling savages, forced to eat their own kind in order to stay alive on a freezing planet with red skies, while the icy wind moans...

I would like to have children myself one day, but I do not want my children to inhabit a predatory reality such as this one. Thus, the only way I can see myself having children is to work in the hope that a FUTURE reality can be created which is not merely a cyclical repeat of this one. Even if I could not live in such a reality myself, I would die satisfied knowing that my children lived in a world aligned with Truth and Love, not lies and death.

FWIW.

 

[mkrnhr]

I will humbly try to answer hoping being corrected if I am on a mistake.

- All this talk and evidence about underground bases; could it be that the power elite are planning to hide and take shelter there when the comets start pounding? Is this a good way of reducing the population - leave us out on the surface while they're hiding?

Yes

- Could it be that the previous civilizations that got destroyed already done this? Did the "elite" of that time take shelter underground, and most importantly, are they still with us? I know it sounds outlandish, but all these sightings of UFOs emerging from the see (like Bill Cooper's story) could suggest that there's something going on underground.

It is indeed possible. And the so-called miracles of the ancient gods could be some technological remains used by underground-elite-survivors as being seen by the surface-survivor's descendants. Many possibilities here.

- If they already have forehand knowledge of an incoming disaster, wouldn't you assume that some scientists would blow the whistle? I mean they would have nothing to loose,facing an anyway certain death. Or maybe they and their families have been promised sheltering.

You cannot imagine how much dogmatic and narrow-minded professionnal scientists are in general. Don't forget they succeeded their training in the education system. Scientists do not do research as they want, the do research they are paid for. It is not a vocation but rather a job like another.
Otherwise, if a scientist talks about it he will be treated as a charlatant, et magician, a mystic. You have for example few books that blow the whistle. Any result? I imagine that many who come into the same results we are discussing will think "who will ever believe me, let's forget it".
Many reasons come to mind. The most important is to be aware of our reality and not to fall asleep.

- There where mentions of these shorter cyclical catastrophic events, like the 3600 year cycle. Now, the dinosaurs did rule many million years. Didn't they suffer from these "smaller" events?

There are short and long cycles, and sometimes they coincide for greater effects. And these effects affect geological dating and so on. Man has survived last short cycle catastrophs, dinosaurs should have survived few.

Otherwise, the perturbation of the outer enveloppe of our solar system (the reservoir of giant comets) is a stochastic event so the magnitude of the catastrophes may vary from one cycle to another.

- This last one sounds really silly, but I toss it out anyway: Surely these beings of higher dimensions have knowledge of coming catastrophic events. And these sinister beings, who benefit and feed of the misery of man surely want to continue doing so. So maybe they have promised to fix this comet-business, if the power elite provide more misery and control on earth. And that would be why their speeding up the NWO-process, they've made a pact.

Imho, the catastrophic event in the view of our transdimentionnal friends is benefical since it provides a great amount of energy, and since they aid the elite to survive, it also perpetue their dominance over our world

Sorry, many silly questions and too little research of my own. It's just that my brain is going warp speed over this comet business. Just had to let out some steam wink

Generaly, question are never silly, but the answers can.

 

[aragorn]

Many thanks for your inputs!

So, after reading your posts and Laura's article 'The Hope' I've come to understand, that it's possible that our spiritual state here on Earth could have an affect on the "space rocks", in good or bad. So the best thing to do is educate one self, get all the knowledge one can-and weed out the disinfo, and get people aware, do you agree? But I believe this doesn't mean that we in a new age-sort of way just "meditate love" and "heal the earth" sitting in a lotus asana. So is there any evidence of any sort, that awareness can affect earth changes and space rocks?

Just one more thing. I just can't get my head around this thing, that the hyperdimensional beings would actually want an extincion to happen. I mean, after thousands of years building things up to this "wonderful" world, would they be willing to just let it get destroyed? Or is that the whole plan; they have squeezed all they can out of mankind, and now they wan't or feel it's inavoidable to start all over? The big catastrophe would wipe us out, leaving the new race, the psychopats left...

 

[Appollynon]

I’ve been reading this thread with great interest and the other posters have done a great job of helping you out with advice and links. I don’t have much to say that hasn’t been said already to help out, but I thought I'd try and help (if I can) after I read what you had said below.

Just one more thing. I just can't get my head around this thing, that the hyperdimensional beings would actually want an extincion to happen. I mean, after thousands of years building things up to this "wonderful" world, would they be willing to just let it get destroyed? Or is that the whole plan; they have squeezed all they can out of mankind, and now they wan't or feel it's inavoidable to start all over? The big catastrophe would wipe us out, leaving the new race, the psychopats left...

As far as my understanding of the events upcoming goes (and it is rather more limited than that of others on the forum here) I don’t necessarily think that the comet shower (which we seem already to be experiencing in it’s first wave), even when coupled with other earth changes or climatological catastrophes will wipe out all of the humans who exist, although it is certainly one of many possibilities. From reading up on catastrophism and earths catastrophic history it seems that we have been through many comet clusters, earth changes, maybe a few pole flips and earth tilts, and yet still we remain. I think that there is a good possibility that many people will die and suffer because of the previously mentioned causes, another possibility is that there may be a number of people who simply disappear into a higher density (as proposed in the c’s transcripts), and another yet is that many people may survive. Always there are possibilities for things like these to happen at times of great change and the end of certain cycles of experience, and when seeing these things coming like you have, it can leave us somewhat shell-shocked and in a state of fear or paralysis and stop us from doing anything about it (such as sharing information with those who ask, as just one example). The only way I have really found to deal with not letting knowledge of what could possibly happen in the future get me down or paralyze me with fear, it to focus on learning the lessons I’m presented with in the present and to focus on working on myself as well as helping others when they ask. I’m not suggesting your suffering from this fear or paralysis, (as I have only recently realized I still do myself, but had tried to self calm that I wasn’t) but it does sound like your having a hard time dealing with what you now know, and sometimes focusing on this one issue to much can leave you feeling pretty helpless or depressed. I think there always needs to be a balance, and finding out your balance is something that only you can really, although help is always there is you ask :D

I don’t think that the Hyperdimensional STS are hoping an extinction level event will happen. Instead they may hope for us to be so frightened, confused, and fearful of what’s to come, and when it happens, so as to feed from the greatly amplified fear and negative emotions we will go through as a race when things get worse. Kind of like setting us up to be the ultimate gourmet meal of fear and terror, so that they can squeeze as much negative energy from us as possible during the coming catastrophes. My POV about who may be left when the dust settles is likely also different to the one you have shared. If I was a STS HyperD controller, and was using psychopaths and organic portals to drain energy and be portals of attack against other humans, then there would need to be some form of human population left for this feeding to continue. So it would make a sick sort of sense to me, to leave enough people here to procreate again and start the cycle of feeding and control all over again, as they must have done in past times of cataclysm for them to survive (or at least that may be a possible plan, whether it happens or not is open).

I know it’s a lot easier said than done, but try not to focus on the negative aspect of what could possibly happen in the future, as there is also the possibility of some positive outcomes that may or may not happen.

 

[Al Today]

then there would need to be some form of human population left for this feeding to continue.

Or maybe replacement of the population with a better model?