How to get fired at Google

Eboard10

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The article talks about Google's Chairman Eric Schmidt and SVP Rosenberg, whom in their book "How Google Works" explain how some employees that they label as Knaves are very dangerous in a working environment and have a higher chance of getting fired. The description of a Knave from the book resembles quite closely that of a psychopath. Good to see that there is still some good sense inside these companies, though the reality of what actually goes on might be different at times.

_http://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-get-fired-at-google-2015-6#ixzz3dy5FH9px

This the best, quickest way to get fired when you work at Google

Google chairman Eric Schmidt and former svp/product management Jonathan Rosenberg wrote a book about management called "How Google Works." In it, they talk about all the things they learned running the world's biggest and best search engine.

At a talk in London last year, the pair revealed what they looked for when hiring new people at the company.

But sometimes Google needs to get rid of people, too, especially when a staffer isn't a good fit with the company's culture. Rosenberg said the company was constantly on the lookout for "knaves," or employees who are so annoying or ill-willed that they drive away the good employees. Too many knaves can cripple a company, Rosenberg says, so preventing a high "knave density" — the level of antagonistic employees concentrated in any one team — is crucial. "If you get more than a few of these knaves, people don't want to come to work in the morning," he said.

So what does a knave look like?

Knaves "lie, cheat, steal, and take credit for other people's work," Rosenberg said. He also said knaves "leak."

That last bit was interesting, and may help explain why, despite the fact that Google has roughly 48,000 employees, the company's staff members rarely tell the media stories off the record.

Here's the passage from the book that talks about the danger of knave density:

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Life is something like that island, only more complicated. For not only are knaves in real life devoid of integrity, they are also sloppy, selfish, and have a sneaky way of working their way into virtually any company. Arrogance, for example, is a knavish tendency that is a natural by-product of success, since exceptionalism is fundamental to winning. Nice humble engineers have a way of becoming insufferable when they think they are the sole inventors of the world's next big thing. This is quite dangerous, as ego creates blind spots.

There are other things that classify people as knaves. Jealous of your colleague's success? You're a knave. (Remember that famous knave Iago, warning the smart creative Othello to "beware, my lord, of jealousy. Is is the free-eye'd monster, which doth mock the meat it feeds on.") Taking credit for someone else's work? Knave. Selling a customer something she doesn't need or won't benefit from? Knave. Blowing up a Lean Cuisine in the company microwave and not cleaning it up? Knave. Tagging the wall of a nave? Knave.
 
Eboard10 said:
The article talks about Google's Chairman Eric Schmidt and SVP Rosenberg, whom in their book "How Google Works" explain how some employees that they label as Knaves are very dangerous in a working environment and have a higher chance of getting fired.

Do keep a critical mindset when you read these books.

Often what the authors ascribe to others is in fact their very own nature. Schmidt sat on Apple's board and had the inside view throughout the iPhone's development. Quietly he took (stole) it all back to Google and hence they came up with Android.

Rosenberg was an obnoxious bureaucrat. Alienating everyone (except his boss Schmidt.) He was so bad that Page promptly canned him as soon as he took back control of the company. BTW Larry himself had "borrowed" the idea for Adwords (the company's true cash machine) from someone else. And it was Brin who first coined the company term "don't be evil." Sure! These people are NOT choir boys.

A member of my family worked there for a few years and gave me an inside view. FWIW.
 
sitting said:
And it was Brin who first coined the company term "don't be evil."

Which is sort of like Fox News constantly saying they're "fair and balanced."

If it were true it'd be obvious and no one would need to constantly drill it into victim's minds.
 
sitting said:
Eboard10 said:
The article talks about Google's Chairman Eric Schmidt and SVP Rosenberg, whom in their book "How Google Works" explain how some employees that they label as Knaves are very dangerous in a working environment and have a higher chance of getting fired.

Do keep a critical mindset when you read these books.

Often what the authors ascribe to others is in fact their very own nature. Schmidt sat on Apple's board and had the inside view throughout the iPhone's development. Quietly he took (stole) it all back to Google and hence they came up with Android.

Rosenberg was an obnoxious bureaucrat. Alienating everyone (except his boss Schmidt.) He was so bad that Page promptly canned him as soon as he took back control of the company. BTW Larry himself had "borrowed" the idea for Adwords (the company's true cash machine) from someone else. And it was Brin who first coined the company term "don't be evil." Sure! These people are NOT choir boys.

A member of my family worked there for a few years and gave me an inside view. FWIW.

Hi sitting, it wasn't my intention to defend or assign any good values to the authors of the book but was just making the connection between the excerpt of the book in the article and the notion of dealing with psychopaths at work. And yes, I totally agree with you that both Schmidt and Rosenberg, like many exces in large companies, clearly reflect the characteristics described in the article and, like they themselves say, have a sneaky way of working their way into virtually any company and in any position I might add.
 
Eboard10 said:
Hi sitting, it wasn't my intention to defend or assign any good values to the authors of the book but was just making the connection between the excerpt of the book in the article and the notion of dealing with psychopaths at work.

Got it. Thanks for the clarification. :)
 
That's exactly how they'd get non-psychos to come work for them like slaves: "Come work for us! See how wonderful the company culture is?!"

Yeah, right.

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