HYDRONEPHROSIS AND REQUEST FOR ADVICE

Ocean

The Living Force
Hi All
Today I was diagnosed with chronic hydronephrosis. The reposrt says there are thinned out parenchyma, ballooning of pelvis with smooth narrowing near the PUJ . No obvious calculus can be seen. They suggest an IVP to see what is causing the damage. Don't really know what all these acronyms mean!

I was wondering if a ketogenic diet would help, or if anyone has experience of this disease.

Thanks for any replies
 
Ocean said:
Hi All
Today I was diagnosed with chronic hydronephrosis. The reposrt says there are thinned out parenchyma, ballooning of pelvis with smooth narrowing near the PUJ . No obvious calculus can be seen. They suggest an IVP to see what is causing the damage. Don't really know what all these acronyms mean!

I was wondering if a ketogenic diet would help, or if anyone has experience of this disease.

Thanks for any replies
If you don't know what they mean, why did you not ask your doctor to clarify?
 
Know that excessive protein intake may further deteriorate kidney function if it is already compromised by this or any condition. It is generally suggested to adjust protein consumption to around 0.8 grams per kilo of ideal body weight when kidney function is initially compromised, which is what is already thought to be the best while doing the ketogenic diet.

Excessive kidney deterioration may require a protein restriction of up to 0.5- 0.6 gram of protein per kilo of ideal body weight. Less than that usually leads to malnutrition.

If your kidney function is normal, know that the data points to the harmlessness of low-carb diets on kidney function as low-carb bloggers and authors point out. See for instance:

Friedman AN, Ogden L. Comparative effects of low-carbohydrate high-protein versus low-fat diets on the kidney. Clin J Am Soc Nephrol. 2012 Jul;7(7):1103-11
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Comparative%20effects%20of%20low-carbohydrate%20high-protein%20versus%20low-fat%20diets%20on%20the%20kidney

I actually read that the core of the kidney works better with ketone bodies in Art of Low Carb Eating by Volek and Phinney. But the important thing, IMO, is for you to know why you have this condition.
 
If you don't know what they mean, why did you not ask your doctor to clarify?

That's a very good question Anart, especially for me because on the very rare occasions
I do go see a doctor I grill them so much they are glad to see the back of me.

I think it may be because I have been in so much pain I have been in a daze and
not thinking clearly. I did a search so I now have a better understanding.
 
Ocean said:
If you don't know what they mean, why did you not ask your doctor to clarify?

That's a very good question Anart, especially for me because on the very rare occasions
I do go see a doctor I grill them so much they are glad to see the back of me.

I think it may be because I have been in so much pain I have been in a daze and
not thinking clearly. I did a search so I now have a better understanding.

Well, I'm really sorry you've been in that much pain!
 
Psyche thank you for the information and links.

I went back to the hospital yesterday for tests and the IVP (Intravenous Pyelogram)

From tracing the activity of my two kidneys for 8 hours using the contrast material iodine, we were able to see the function of both kidneys. My left kidney is perfect, perfectly formed and doing all the filtering at an efficient rate. My right kidney has zero function. In effect it is doing nothing at all. The urologist said that for all intents and purposes I don't really have a right kidney. just a massive water filled mass.

He told me that the condition is congenital. That I was actually born with a blockage at the UPJ
This seems feasible as my father was born without a right kidney, but they only discovered that after he died when they did the post mortem.

The urologist suggested i have the kidney removed as it is serving no function whatsoever. I am really not keen on the idea of surgery. He did however say the prognosis was good if I managed it well.

Any ideas are very welcome.
 
I would start making bone broth, cut the protein down to the level that sustains ketosis, start the resistance exercises to activate the mtDNA and get through the transition (might take 6 weeks or so) and see what happens from there.
 
He told me that the condition is congenital. That I was actually born with a blockage at the UPJ
This seems feasible as my father was born without a right kidney, but they only discovered that after he died when they did the post mortem.
that makes sense in TCM traditional chinese medicin...the kidneys ''store'' chi (life force) and one kidney stores your inherited chi and the other the chi you accumulate for yourself
 
Laura said:
I would start making bone broth, cut the protein down to the level that sustains ketosis, start the resistance exercises to activate the mtDNA and get through the transition (might take 6 weeks or so) and see what happens from there.

I am going to do this also. I too have only one working kidney, so I am going to start on this. I have been eating Paleo for quite awhile, so I should be able to transition to this easily.

Ocean, I am sorry you are in pain. I have had my share of urinary problems and they can be quite painful. Hope that you are feeling better soon. :hug2:
 
Ocean:

I too am really sorry that you are in pain. I was really moved when I saw that Angela has reached out to you. It's really sweet and uplifting to see how people who have experienced the same challenges help each other on this forum. It's also really special how much expertise and knowledge there is among the members and administrators.

I wish you all the best.
 
I met a man with your same condition just last night. He found out he had a congenital problem per chance, otherwise he would not had found out.

Know that one kidney is more than good enough :) You just have to be careful with it and I think the keto diet and mtDNA activation is the best for your kidney. It will have better circulation, best energy sources, it will be less prone to infections.

The man I met yesterday was having a kidney infection. Know that D-mannose powder has dealt with urinary tract bacteria quite effectively. Perhaps having some in stock would be a good idea. Here is more information about it:

D-Mannose for Bladder and Kidney Infections

_http://tahomaclinicblog.com/d-mannose-for-bladder-and-kidney-infections/

A little girl’s parents are told she’ll likely need a kidney transplant since her chronic kidney infections aren’t yielding to antibiotics anymore…..

Another little girl with a genetic disorder has been on continuous antibiotics for nearly two years because of kidney and bladder infections….

An adult woman gets a bladder infection every time she has sex… And literally millions of women and girls (and a very few boys and men) each year have at least one episode of acute bladder infection (“cystitis”). Routine treatment of bladder and kidney infections involves antibiotics and antimicrobials. As the first three cases (described later) will illustrate, in over 90% of bladder and kidney infections, antibiotics are actually an inferior treatment choice. The treatment of choice for initial treatment of most urinary tract infections is D-mannose.

D-mannose is a naturally occurring simple sugar, closely related (in chemical terms, a “stereoisomer”) to glucose. Small amounts of D-mannose are metabolized by our bodies; more than small amounts are excreted promptly into the urine. But how can even large quantities of a simple natural sugar do anything at all to cure over 90% of all bladder and urinary tract infections?

The answer is found in the interaction between D-mannose and the bacterium found in over 90% of all bladder infections, Escherichia coli (“E. coli”). [No, that's not the infamous E. coli mutant associated with unsanitary food processing that's hospitalized and killed people. It's the normal E. coli found as part of the "normal microflora" in every intestinal tract.] But even normal E. coli don’t belong in the bladder and urinary tract; in these areas it multiplies and becomes an undesirable infection.

But why doesn’t the normal downflow of urine from the kidneys through the ureters into the bladder and thence beyond simply carry the E. coli right along with it? What allows the E. coli to “stick” to the inner walls of the bladder and even work their way upward (like “Spiderman”) in some cases reaching as far as the kidneys?

The “cell walls” of each E. coli are covered with tiny fingerlike projections. The very tips of these projections are an amino acid-sugar complex, a “glycoprotein” also called a “lectin”. E. coli “lectins” have the unfortunate (for us) capability of “sticking” the bacteria to the inside walls of our bladders and urinary tracts, so they can’t be rinsed out by urination.

Unfortunately for the E. coli, D-mannose “sticks” to E. coli lectins even better than E. coli lectins “stick” to human cells. When we take a large quantity of D-mannose, almost all of it spills into the urine through our kidneys, literally “coating” any E.coli present so they can no longer “stick” to the inside walls of the bladder and urinary tract. The E. coli are literally rinsed away with normal urination!

Why is “rinsing away” E. coli with D-mannose superior to killing them with antibiotics and anti-microbials? When an antibiotic is taken, it kills unwanted micro-organisms, but it also kills many “friendly” micro-organisms. Every woman is familiar with “yeast infections” that follow antibiotic use, as the “friendly bacteria” are killed off along with the “bad bacteria”, leaving the antibiotic-insensitive yeast to grow “out of control”. Long-term or often-repeated antibiotic use can lead to major disruptions in normal body microflora, and sometimes to major disruptions in health, especially immune system function. [It's suspected that the "killer" E. coli of recent years are "mutants" caused by persistent antibiotic feeding to animals.]

By contrast, D-mannose doesn’t kill bacteria, “friendly” or “unfriendly”. D-mannose simply helps to relocate misplaced E.coli from inside of our urinary tracts to outside. (Since D-mannose is absorbed in the upper gastrointestinal tract, it doesn’t relocate the “friendly” E. coli normally present in the colon.) D-mannose treatment of E. coli bladder and urinary tract infections is ecologically sound treatment. (The very small amounts of D-mannose metabolized by our bodies and not excreted into the urine are harmless.) As an extra bonus, D-mannose tastes good!

Three Cases, Briefly

Our first case is relatively well-known in the Seattle-King County area as this child’s mother provided testimony about her case to the County Council when it was considering the establishment of a natural medicine clinic within the taxpayer-funded county public health system.

This mother brought her daughter to Tahoma Clinic in the 1980s. She also brought with her a very detailed set of notebooks in which she’d recorded descriptions of her daughter’s numerous hospitalizations and extensive tests for nearly continuous urinary tract infections. By actual count, her daughter (not yet five years old) had been seen by 72 different physicians, and had been on antibiotics the majority of her life. Mother and father had been told the doctors were “running out of effective antibiotics”, and that their daughter would likely need a kidney transplant during the next few years, as her kidneys were beginning to fail from the chronic infection. Extensive tests showed “normal kidneys, ureters, and bladder”, with no discoverable reason for all the infection.

Fortunately, Mom also had records of many urine cultures. They were always the same: E.coli. At the end of our consultation, I advised her to give her daughter ¼ to ½ teaspoon (approximately 1 to 2 ½ grams) of D-mannose powder stirred into water every three to four hours while awake. Despite being a bit dubious that a simple sugar prescribed by a natural medicine doctor (remember, this was the 1980s) would do anything, mother tried it. Within 48 hours, the infection was gone. Her daughter remained infection free for over two years until the D-mannose was temporarily forgotten; resumption cleared the infection once more. She’s had no urinary tract infection since, and has of course retained her own kidneys.

The County Council was impressed by the simple natural solution to a serious health problem. They were equally impressed with the difference in cost between D-mannose treatment (even long-term) and the cost of several hospitalizations, extensive testing, and nearly continuous antibiotics, as well as the potential cost of the predicted kidney transplant.

Our second case is that of a another little girl with galactosemia (a genetic disease) who when first seen in 1996 was on antibiotics because of chronic recurrent E. coli urinary tract infections. She’d been on antibiotics for most of the prior two years. As part of her overall treatment, I advised her parents to switch her from antibiotics to D-mannose (at the quantities noted above). The switch was made uneventfully; no further urinary tract infections occurred. When they last saw their daughter’s urologist in 1998, her parents were told to “check back in the year 2000″.

Our last case is that of a married woman who was avoiding sex because “I get a bladder infection every time”. Needless to say, this caused some degree of marital discord. As cultures had shown E. coli, she started taking ½ teaspoon of D-mannose one hour prior to and just after intercourse, and had no further infections.

There also have been many women who’ve been advised to take D-mannose ½ teaspoon every two to three hours to treat single episodes of bladder infection. Nearly every time, the treatment has been successful. However, since a small proportion of bladder infections are not caused by E. coli but by some other micro-organism, women are also advised to call back for a “regular” antibiotic prescription if their infections are not substantially better or completely gone in 24 hours.

Try D-Mannose First

D-mannose is very safe, even for long term use, although most women (or the very occasional man) with single episodes of bladder or urinary tract infection will only need it for a few days at most. Although D-mannose is a simple sugar, very little of it is metabolized. It doesn’t interfere with blood sugar regulation, even for diabetics. It creates no disruption or imbalance in normal body microflora. It’s safe even for pregnant women and very small children. In the less than 10% of cases where the infection is a bacteria other than E. coli, antibiotics can be started in plenty of time. (Many physicians will likely advise collecting a urine specimen for culture, if possible just before starting D-mannose, so that the bacteria can be identified as rapidly as possible in the few cases when D-mannose doesn’t work.)

Since D-mannose is naturally occurring, many of you may have guessed that cranberry juice (as well as pineapple juice) contain more D-mannose than most other foods. However, the amounts found in these juices are substantially less than in the ½ teaspoon (approximately 1 gram) adult dose, and are substantially less effective. [Plus, it has a lot of useless sugar!]

So Where’s the D-Mannose?

If D-mannose is so safe and effective, why isn’t it in your natural food store? Your editor has been frustrated by it’s absence also, particularly as he has spent several years trying to convince one or another supplement company to put D-mannose into wider distribution.
 
I have used D-mannose with great results!!

On another note, my doctor said that there was no reason to remove my "dead" kidney unless it was painful. Since mine was rendered useless slowly over time, I didn't have any discomfort with it. So in my opinion, unless it is causing you grief, I wouldn't let them take it out.

Hope you are doing better Ocean!
 
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