I recognized something in myself, & now have to "work" on it.

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MnSportsman

Jedi
In re-reading the online Wave series, I recognized something in myself, & now have to "work" on it. { Thank you to Foxx, who, in a recent reply to me, set in motion my re-reading of the "Wave" & a Thank you to Laura for writing the Wave}.

In chapter 8, "The Wave Chapter 8: Everywhere You Look, There Is the Face of God" , there is a section that really struck me, & I wanted to share this "personal" discovery with all of you. I brought a segment of that chapter here to help identify what I had read before, but not seen to apply it to myself until now & the re-reading. I placed in Bold the part that hit me like a hammer to the forehead. I italicized( in Red) 2 sections, the first is what hit me like the hammer the hardest, & the 2nd underlined segment reinforced the first. I included (in Blue),although perhaps , unnecessarily, the part of the page that followed, to try to put in perspective what I thought might help keep the perspective of what I recognized.
Here is that segment:

It seems to me that the majority of humans neither know nor suspect anything about a deeper reality; they are, for all intents and purposes, hypnotized. They live lives of quiet desperation, providing a feast at the very least for other people, and possibly even for aliens.
Another odd thing I began to notice was that many people seem to have preprogrammed thought loops that, no matter how much logic or reason you use to persuade them to open their minds, they hold strongly to an emotional, subjective agenda and belief system. Debunkers and “natural disinformation artists” fall into this category. They don’t even realize that they are agents and would be utterly horrified if one could ever convince them of it, or even show reasonable circumstantial evidence that it was so. The fact is, they are programmed with their belief systems about the “Third Man” and they believe it because they want to. That “wanting” is, of course, their choice.

I speculated that there are others who have the potential and inner nature to become aware. The aliens probably abduct these also, but, because of some “law” that must exist in their realm, they cannot just kill them to eliminate them as a threat. So, they implant them with mechanical devices designed to direct their thoughts toward self-destruction, or into useless pathways and senseless speculations, and also to manipulate their emotional states so that when they begin to get close to a truth or to some knowledge formulation, they can be obfuscated by their own emotions. Breaking through these control programs is an enormous task.

A lot of things can happen in these situations. Either the person learns to move through these states of obfuscation, or they become fixated in them and are lost. These emotional states can involve likes and dislikes, positive and negative perceptions of an emotional sort that have nothing to do with any true reality.

People can be emotionally driven to marry inappropriately so that the marriage partner becomes the controller and energy vampire; people can be emotionally driven to desire something so much that they are completely lost in their desire and will create all sorts of mental rationalizations that they use to convince themselves that what they are doing is appropriate and leading them to knowledge when it is really just another illusion.
Seemingly synchronous events can be created and presented to the individual to persuade them that what they are doing or thinking is along the correct path because the very universe has “confirmed” it for them thereby.

The manipulations and variations are endless, incredibly deep, and cunning beyond all understanding. And, it was a horrible thing to see! I understood that nearly all of humanity is merely FOOD. They are controlled and manipulated from birth to the grave just as depicted in the movie The Matrix, only they are not “batteries” for some computers that have run amok and taken over the world — they are literally physical and energy food for beings at higher densities. And, because of their ignorance, they can do nothing. Because they are not awake, they have no free will.

As I continued to speculate about these matters, I understood that our culture, our religions, our philosophies, our sciences, all contribute to, and are controlled by, this vast, complex feeding mechanism — this hierarchy of Service to Self. Even most of the “new” New Age interpretations are merely another layer on the onion of deception to further deprive us of free will.
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This personal discovery & how it may apply to me, is something I am going to ponder on & see what I can find out about myself in doing so. I am not applying it "verbatim" to myself, but the possibilities that I may have in some manner been "influenced" to see matters in only one way & not recognizing others. Thus "not seeing the forest for the trees" as the phrase goes. This thinking comes from the fact that I was really upset about the introduction & passing into law Article S1867 & actually continue to be concerned. I have been reflecting on how I defended my "belief system" throughout the course of that S1867 thread, & whether my defense was actually worthwhile. Or was I just wasting my time & that of others. Have I been "influenced" to be "patriotic" to the point in which I cannot see any other avenues? Was this reaction of mine to what I perceived as an "injustice", an objective reaction? , or am I reacting due to something else? This is what I am now considering... I do not like the idea that I may be being used as a "puppet". That, is something that would make me " utterly horrified", to discover, as was said in the quote above.

For some reason I felt it necessary to share this situation with the forum, although I am not sure if it will reflect on me as being selfish by doing so. I actually am quite delighted that I recognized this & how it may apply to me. For it also allows me to ponder some personal changes I perhaps need to make. I hope I am doing a good thing by posting/sharing this.

Respects,
JB/MnSportsman

P.S.- I still believe that sometimes I do not write well enough to say what I am trying to say clearly enough. I am working on that part of me also.
:)

Edit, fixed a quote mark.
 
MnSportsman said:
For some reason I felt it necessary to share this situation with the forum, although I am not sure if it will reflect on me as being selfish by doing so. I actually am quite delighted that I recognized this & how it may apply to me. For it also allows me to ponder some personal changes I perhaps need to make. I hope I am doing a good thing by posting/sharing this.
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I don't think you are being selfish at all by bringing this up, MnSportsman. It sounds like you are open to considering more than you might have been before. The process of questioning everything is essential in advancing knowledge of who we are and what the world is. As far as I can tell, that process just continues, as there is always more to know.

There may be situations in which what you describe as patriotism is entirely appropriate and right, and others in which it would serve no good. To continue your own efforts to know yourself and question things is to continue to sharpen your own skill at discernment- to know the difference and how it applies in each situation.
 
thank you for sharing this.

sounds to me like a breakthrough, or rather a step back and overview of one of the "loops".

we learn things, assimilate then take a step back and think about the avenue we are currently on.

i can especially relate to thinking about a stance one takes in hindsight, and realizing that it might not be as worthwhile as it seemed at the time.
 
Congratulations on finding a new way of seeing yourself MnSportsman :) Positive disintegration always brings a disoriented feeling, when you lose your traditional mental markers and you see your own mental content as if for the first time again. The view usually isn't pretty (if it was we wouldn't need to do The Work), but vision itself seems to fuel desire for change and ability to change - at least that has been my experience.
 
Hi MnSportsman,

Discovering those sacred cows is a traumatic experience. This I know. Keep up the Work. The network is here.

AL
 
MnSportsman, I'm glad to see you taking a serious critical look at yourself to gain further insight! :) The indoctrination methods of the US government on the general populace are very powerful, but the ones used on the military forces are even more powerful than that, so I imagine it's a lot of work to escape. I think you might be making some progress and am happy for you!

I would say that many people who identify as 'patriots' in america feel strongly about an idea of what america is (a free democracy, "land of the free home of the brave", limited government, etc etc)--which, as an ideal, is (abstractly) something to uphold. The problem is, america (the government/corporatocracy) doesn't really uphold that standard itself and what really happens is psychopathic politicians (and media corporations) say one thing, but do something else (9/11, Iraq, Libya, etc, etc, etc, etc well into the past) and the "history" books uphold such propaganda. The entire government is a puppet show designed to distract people from what's really going on and what has been going on for a very, very long time.

It also clearly wasn't a waste of time posting, as well, as it is clear that you needed additional feedback on your belief to get a clearer view of it and, it seems, are now scrutinizing the belief with the potential for new-found deprogramming!

Keep persevering! :D
 
MnSportsman, FWIW, I think this is a great way to Work within a group. If that means "selfish", then I'd say I like that definition! Also, FWIW, I suppose there's always room to improve writing ability, but when you first climbed aboard, I noted your ability to express yourself well enough for me at any rate. Onward and upward! :)
 
I also think you've made an important step forward by seeing this aspect of yourself that if it "sets in too rigidly" really blinds you to see a wider perspective. But now that you've seen it, you can actually change the control this program has over your thoughts, emotions, and actions at some point.
 
MnSportsman said:
Was this reaction of mine to what I perceived as an "injustice", an objective reaction? , or am I reacting due to something else? This is what I am now considering... I do not like the idea that I may be being used as a "puppet". That, is something that would make me " utterly horrified", to discover, as was said in the quote above.
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Consider deeply that you have been used as a puppet. Experience this utter horror and recognize that it is a manifestation of an awakening. This does not mean that what you "lived " through while asleep was meaningless. Far from it. It led you to this point and heralds a great victory should you choose to make it through the horror of realization.
 
Thanks for all replies. I am trying to type one handed, since lower right arm to wrist is in pain. I believe may be tendonitis caused by/aggravated from arthritis from old injuries. I have some questions, and replies, but best to save them until I heal a bit, as not to put undue stress on other/left side.
Thanks again.
I hope to return to typing better soon. Been reading post & pondering what I read.
:)
 
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