"I will not run from me!" - Steven Hayes TED Talk - Psychological Flexibility

In the video, Steven Hayes says that when life asks you the question, "what are you going to do about it?", we already have within us a great answer to that question...or at least the seed of an answer. But we also have this arrogant, story-telling, problem-solving, analytic, judgmental mind between the ears that doesn't have the answer and is constantly tempting us into taking the wrong direction.

A form of emotional openness seems to be the core of Psychological Flexibility and of Hayes' approach. His descriptions seem consistent with Gabor Maté's concept of "holding the pain to rewire the brain", so I think you posted a good video talk there.
 
Buddy said:
In the video, Steven Hayes says that when life asks you the question, "what are you going to do about it?", we already have within us a great answer to that question...or at least the seed of an answer. But we also have this arrogant, story-telling, problem-solving, analytic, judgmental mind between the ears that doesn't have the answer and is constantly tempting us into taking the wrong direction.

A form of emotional openness seems to be the core of Psychological Flexibility and of Hayes' approach.

The concept of psychological flexibility, which is used in the ACT model of Hayes, has some building blocks.

From the ACT website:
_https://workingwithact.com/what-is-act/what-is-psychological-flexibility/
It is for this reason that Kashdan and Rotterburg (2010) define psychological flexibility as the measure of how a person: (1) adapts to fluctuating situational demands, (2) reconfigures mental resources, (3) shifts perspective, and (4) balances competing desires, needs, and life domains.

On searching for the concept of psychological flexibility, I came across this paper from Kashdan:
Psychological Flexibility as a Fundamental Aspect of Health

In this paper, the author Kashdan identifies the following building blocks for psychological flexibility
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The Building Blocks of Psychological Flexibility

Now that we have demonstrated the benefits of psychological flexibility and the costs of inflexibility, we consider three critical factors that influence the likelihood of being psychologically flexible and gaining access to its benefits:: executive functioning, default mental states, and personality configurations. Our goals in presenting these building blocks are to offer a portal into how psychological flexibility operates and to provide clues as to how it might be better cultivated.
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Executive functioning is identified as a critical building block for psychological flexibility and
[quote author=Kashdan]
.. it is hard to imagine psychological flexibility without at least adequate performance in this domain.
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Why I am bringing this up is because imo,

[quote author=paraphrased from Hayes]
"we also have this arrogant, story-telling, problem-solving, analytic, judgmental mind between the ears that doesn't have the answer and is constantly tempting us into taking the wrong direction"
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is misleading.

The problem solving, analytic, judgmental mind is a central component of executive functioning. So unless the reader is well versed in the nuances of psychology and neuroscience, it is possible that wrong ideas would be internalized from the above formulation, which is accompanied by statements like "all that is needed is love." It is more complicated than that. The dramatic performance in the video as well as the above line of thought tends to give an overall message which can be misleading. To derive practical benefit from this, the concept of psychological flexibility need to be unpacked, understood with discrimination, and then applied.

The Kashdan paper linked above is dry but more accurate in describing mental processes and showing how psychological flexibility works. It does not reduce things to a one-liner like "all that is needed is love". I could be biased but I look at such across the board simplifications as the mental equivalent of "red bull gives you wings". It can perk us up temporarily without providing long-term benefits. I do not intend to devalue the whole work of Hayes as I do not know much about it. So take the above as a criticism of the presentation. Hayes could have done the presentation in the way he did to attract people to the concept and he made it dramatic enough to be interesting. In that case people following up could potentially benefit. And my point is that this followup is perhaps essential to derive benefit.

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obyvatel said:
And my point is that this followup is perhaps essential to derive benefit.

That kind of goes without saying - such a video, by its very nature, is just a 'teaser'. Reading through one of the popular ACT books for the layperson (not written by, but approved by Hayes) this weekend, I've been impressed by the following elements:

  • Big emphasis on skills promoting mindfulness, repackaged for the westerner - but it got through and made sense to me in a way it hadn't before - might do similarly for others. Individual skills nicely 'scaffolded' out to build on each other, it seemed to me.
  • Emphasizing the difference between the 'observing self' and the 'thinking mind' (including noting that there is no specific term in English for the former).
  • Emphasis on skills to learn to stay more in the present moment.
  • Emphasis on skills to allow one to step back from, kind of take the worst of the emotional charge from disturbing thoughts/emotions/memories. (Those with a trauma history also ought to have a professionals additional guidance here.)
  • Instead of the comforting lie/wishful thinking that negative thoughts/images/emotions can be avoided or suppressed that so many self-help books seem to promote, lays it out straight - both the negative and positive introject will always be with us, constantly coming and going - that's just the way our minds are designed. And yes, constantly fighting them aggravates the sensation into ongoing 'suffering'.
  • But we don't have to fuse/identify with our thoughts/emotions, don't have to take them too seriously, assume they're always 'true', nor spend so much time and energy on them - UNLESS they help us create a meaningful life in accordance with our VALUES. You acknowledge them, let them come and go. No more running from that part of your human experience.
  • Big emphasis on non-anticipation: The ACT skills may cause a reduction of the mind activity that we dislike - or it may not. That's not the point. The skills will help us continue to not be too distracted by that chatter, to move on from it more quickly.

Source knows I've quailed inwardly enough at life's unpleasant experiences - cringing, waiting for the next, anticipated moment of 'suffering'. Acceptance and Commitment Therapy's elements do give me new hope. It says, "Look... this stuff you've been running from...it's all normal. It's perfectly normal. And it can be dealt with. You have to do some work, trying/practicing the recommended skill sets... but it can be dealt with. None of the thoughts/feelings - the 'bad', critical ones... or the 'good', grandiose ones - can ultimately keep you from acting according to your values - not really."

So if learning to be of Service is one value a person wishes to live by, then one could learn additional skills via ACT therapy techniques to sidestep the distracting negative (unhelpful criticism) and distracting positive (that can encourage obsessive, habitual seeking after 'self-esteem' /reassurance) thoughts/emotions that so often waste one's energy.

I'll be happy to assemble a relevant bibliography for those interested - as I read the books.
 
Thanks for the clarification, Kalibex.

[quote author=Kalibex]
Emphasizing the difference between the 'observing self' and the 'thinking mind' (including noting that there is no specific term in English for the former).
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This is one area which breeds a lot of confusion. I find the disparaging remarks about the "thinking mind", like in the presentation Hayes made, misleading. It is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

If you found some good clarification in this matter, one which does not make a villain out of the thinking mind but puts its activities in the proper context, then it is good imo.
 
obyvatel said:
This is one area which breeds a lot of confusion. I find the disparaging remarks about the "thinking mind", like in the presentation Hayes made, misleading. It is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

If you found some good clarification in this matter, one which does not make a villain out of the thinking mind but puts its activities in the proper context, then it is good imo.

There is, indeed, a part of the mind that creates problems but doesn't know how to solve them. Esoterically, we talk about moroseness, contradictoriness and etc, but this part of the mind exists. If it were not so, as soon as we saw a problem we identified as a real problem, we'd fix it then and there rather than go round and round with 'woe is me' or run from it and continue to suffer.

I'm probably guilty of translating Hayes' comments in the framework of knowledge I already had, so it's like knowing in advance what he was trying to say. What I forgot about was the possibility that others might get something different if they were mislead by his statements. He said himself he's still learning and later on he might be a bit more careful with his adjectives, who knows?

Don't know if what I'm trying to say is clear, but I do see that you are correct in making certain distinctions for the purposes of preventing misunderstandings since we all don't see the same way, so thank you for your input.
 
obyvatel said:
I find the disparaging remarks about the "thinking mind", like in the presentation Hayes made, misleading. It is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

I don't think he disparages the mind as much as thinks we get too 'fused' to all that runs through our minds in an undiscerning fashion. And I think when he reminisced in the video about speaking defiantly to a part of his mind... he was essentially speaking to his predator's mind.

Humans rely a lot on their thoughts.

Thoughts tell us about our life and how to live it. They tell us how we are and how we should be, what to do and what to avoid. And yet, they are nothing more than words, which is why in ACT we often refer to thoughts as stories. Sometimes they are true stories (called "facts"), and sometimes they are false. But most of our thoughts are neither true or false. Most of them are either stories about how we see life (called "opinions," "attitudes," "judgements," "ideals," "theories," "morals," etc.) or about what we want to do with it (called "plans," "strategies," "goals," "wishes," "values," etc.). In ACT, our main interest in a thought is not whether it's true or false, but whether it's helpful; that is, if we pay attention to this thought, will it help us create the life we want? (Harris, 2013)

Harris, R. (2013). The happiness trap: Stop struggling, start living (Vol. 1). Exisle Publishing.
 

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