IAEA to pursue Iran probe, Tehran says it's innocent

notanothermonday

Padawan Learner
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0332231720080303

looks like propaganda to me especially since IAEA, correct me if I am wrong, said a few months back that Iran was not a significant threat to develop a nuclear weapon. Of course here is the other story posted on Reuters at the same time this story is posted:
Ahmadinejad tells United States to quit region
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSCOL13118420080303

Not likely that this is a coincidence, at least not in the U.S. media.
 
notanothermonday, have you (or anyone else for that matter) seen this? - _http://www.internettrafficreport.com/asia.htm - have been watching this site and it *appears* as though iran's been offline for about two weeks. can anyone else confirm or refute? i haven't seen much else about it 'round the web...

EDIT: didn't search thoroughly enough - looks like this same link was posted here! - _http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=8132

also, pertaining to the issue of the IAEA, i received this curious email last week. it came to me as spam, however the subject piqued my interest, and it seemed strange enough (as a spam email) to share here. mods, remove this at your discretion, as it was spam when it came to me.

Subject: Censored parts of Implementation of the NPT Safeguards Agreementin the Iran
...
...

3. During the discussions, the Iranian leadership stated that
the country’s nuclear programme had
always been exclusively for peaceful purposes and that there
had never been a nuclear weapons
development programme. The Iranian authorities agreed to
accelerate implementation of the work
plan.
...
...
A. Implementation of the Work Plan on Outstanding Issues
A.1. Source of Contamination
4. On 15 September 2007, the Agency provided Iran with
questions relating to the source of the
uranium particle contamination found on some equipment at a
technical university, the nature of the
equipment, the envisioned use of the equipment and the names
and roles of individuals and entities
involved, including the Physics Research Centre (PHRC) (GOV/
2007/58, para. 24)....
...
...
11...The Agency concluded that the explanation and supporting
documentation
provided by Iran regarding the possible source of
contamination by uranium particles at the university
were not inconsistent with the data currently available to
the Agency. The Agency considers this
question no longer outstanding at this stage. ...
...
...
A.1.2. Procurement activities by the former Head of PHRC
...
...
18. The Agency took note of the information and supporting
documents provided by Iran as well as
the statements made by the former Head of PHRC to the Agency
and concluded that the replies were
not inconsistent with the stated use of the equipment. ...
...
...
A.2. Uranium Metal Document
19. On 8 November 2007, the Agency received a copy from Iran
of the 15-page document
describing the procedures for the reduction of UF6 to uranium
metal and the machining of enriched
uranium metal into hemispheres, which are components of
nuclear weapons. Iran reiterated that this
document had been received along with the P-1 centrifuge
documentation in 1987 and that it had not
been requested by Iran. The Agency is still waiting for a
response from Pakistan on the circumstances
of the delivery of this document in order to understand the
full scope and content of the offer made by
the network in 1987 (GOV/2006/15, paras 20–22).

A.3. Polonium-210
20. Polonium-210 is of interest to the Agency because it can
be used not only for civilian
applications (such as radioisotope batteries), but also — in
conjunction with beryllium — for military
purposes, such as neutron initiators in some designs of
nuclear weapons. ...
...
...
24. Based on an examination of all information provided by
Iran, the Agency concluded that the
explanations concerning the content and magnitude of the
polonium-210 experiments were consistent
with the Agency’s findings and with other information
available to it. The Agency considers this
question no longer outstanding at this stage....
...
...
A.4. Gchine Mine
25. On 22 and 23 January 2008, a meeting took place in Tehran
between the Agency and Iranian
officials during which Iran provided answers to the questions
raised by the Agency in its letter dated
15 September 2007 (GOV/2007/58, para. 27) with a view to
achieving a better understanding of the
complex arrangements governing the past and current
administration of the Gchine uranium mine and
mill (GOV/2005/67, paras 26–31).
...
...
34....The Agency concluded that the information and
explanations
provided by Iran were supported by the documentation, the
content of which is consistent with the
information already available to the Agency. The Agency
considers this question no longer
outstanding at this stage....
...
...
B. Current Enrichment Related Activities
45....All activities took place under Agency containment and
surveillance.
...
...
C. Reprocessing Activities
47. The Agency has continued monitoring the use and
construction of hot cells at the Tehran
Research Reactor (TRR), the Molybdenum, Iodine and Xenon
Radioisotope Production Facility (the
MIX Facility) and the Iran Nuclear Research Reactor (IR-40)
through inspections and design
information verification. There have been no indications of
ongoing reprocessing related activities at
those facilities. In addition, Iran has stated that there
have been no reprocessing related R&D activities
in Iran, which the Agency can confirm only with respect to
these facilities.
...
D. Heavy Water Reactor Related Projects
48....The Agency has continued to monitor the
construction of the Heavy Water Production Plant using
satellite imagery....
...
...
E. Other Implementation Issues
E.1. Uranium Conversion
49. During the current conversion campaign at UCF, which
began on 31 March 2007,
approximately 120 tonnes of uranium in the form of UF6 had
been produced as of 2 February 2008.
This brings the total amount of UF6 produced at UCF since
March 2004 to 309 tonnes, all of which
remains under Agency containment and surveillance. ...
E.2. Design Information
50....Iran has provided updated design information for PFEP.
...
...
F. Summary
52. The Agency has been able to continue to verify the non-
diversion of declared nuclear material
in Iran. Iran has provided the Agency with access to declared
nuclear material and has provided the
required nuclear material accountancy reports in connection
with declared nuclear material and
activities. Iran has also responded to questions and provided
clarifications and amplifications on the
issues raised in the context of the work plan, with the
exception of the alleged studies. Iran has
provided access to individuals in response to the Agency’s
requests....
...
53. The Agency has been able to conclude that answers
provided by Iran, in accordance with the
work plan, are consistent with its findings — in the case of
the polonium-210 experiments and the
Gchine mine — or are not inconsistent with its findings — in
the case of the contamination at the
technical university and the procurement activities of the
former Head of PHRC. Therefore, the
Agency considers those questions no longer outstanding at
this stage....
the problem is, i have no other supporting data aside from this email.

and tying that in with the report of 100% packet loss in the country, i find myself wondering just what is going on over there right now that we'd have no way of finding out... if it's true...

EDIT: Here's some stories about the IAEA's report of iran's peaceful intentions

_http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6655
_http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2008-02/23/content_6478566.htm

and here's paragraph 1, article 3 of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty signed in '68

"Each non-nuclear-weapon State Party to the Treaty undertakes to accept safeguards, as set
forth in an agreement to be negotiated and concluded with the International Atomic Energy
Agency in accordance with the Statute of the International Atomic Energy Agency and the
Agency's safeguards system, for the exclusive purpose of verification of the fulfilment of its
obligations assumed under this Treaty with a view to preventing diversion of nuclear energy from
peaceful uses to nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices.
Procedures for the
safeguards required by this Article shall be followed with respect to source or special fissionable
material whether it is being produced, processed or used in any principal nuclear facility or is
outside any such facility. The safeguards required by this Article shall be applied on all source or
special fissionable material in all peaceful nuclear activities within the territory of such State
,
under its jurisdiction, or carried out under its control anywhere".

(bold highlights are my own)
this seems totally hilarious when taking a look at the arsenal the united states holds. _http://www.cdi.org/issues/nukef&f/database/usnukes.html
 
Well, I cannot contribute to this thread other than to say looking out of the window from my office, I can see alot of very large aircraft parked up on the VIP area for this last few days. Enough to run an airshow.

Normally they fly in for a day or two then they are gone, but I guess the protracted stay means they are discussing a little more - I wonder what that could be ???
 
interesting simmi. are you referring to military aircraft?

as an update, just saw this post on slashdot _http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=444028&cid=22321066 -- according to this guy the website internettrafficreport(dot)com only checks one router in iran... hadn't heard that, can anyone else confirm?

and then there's this article which blames internet outages on the iranian government _http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/03/africa/tehran.php

excerpt from above article
Iran has placed many restrictions on the Internet, but it has never shut down the Internet on such a scale. Several million Iranians follow political news on the Internet, and political parties have their own active Web sites.
could the allegations be disinformation? (don't get me wrong, i know most of it is) - but a friend's cousin is actually in iran at the moment, so i am curious to find out more... so far have not had a response from said cousin via email for almost two weeks...

EDIT: i don't intend to "hijack" this thread, as the discussion is supposed to be on the IAEA and the renewed allegations of iran's non-peaceful nuclear development. here's the most recent "news" item i could find concerning that situation as of March 4, 11:00 AM EST - IAEA board drops Iran sanctions resolution: diplomats
 
JonnyRadar said:
as an update, just saw this post on slashdot _http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=444028&cid=22321066 -- according to this guy the website internettrafficreport(dot)com only checks one router in iran... hadn't heard that, can anyone else confirm?
This site confirms it _http://cryptogon.com/?p=1980 and also has links to a few Iran sites that are working.

And also the website(_http://www.iust.ac.ir/) that the router(router1.iust.ac.ir) is at is still working.

*Edit typo
 
No, there were no military aircraft, but some odd looking tailsigns. (I take it by military, you mean in the camouflage colours?) but most do not have tailsigns.

Mostly all gone now and another one departing as I write.

You know when someone really important comes along, the area is flooded with mean looking policemen sprouting firearms out their ears and plain clothed police discretely sitting in cars all around the airport and approach roads. I was told that Putin had a 20 car motorcade reception - and that was just on the ramp (aircraft park place).
 
StayCalm said:
This site confirms it _http://cryptogon.com/?p=1980 and also has links to a few Iran sites that are working.
And also the website(_http://www.iust.ac.ir/) that the router(router1.iust.ac.ir) is at is still working.
thanks for the information. it appears that certain sites are online, and that indeed the whole country is not offline. however, the three that are used as confirmation of iran's "online" status are Iran University of Science and Technology, the Iranian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the Central Bank of The Islamic Republic of Iran -- all organizations run by the Iranian government.

where this gets sticky for me is that the Iranian government is a government - most likely populated by psychopaths in the same manner as most every other ruling body on this planet. there is one comment on that cryptogon site that you linked to that piqued my interest:

A few years ago, when accruing those Iranian urls, I mentioned a few to my friend who advised me strongly against hitting those sites as they were being monitored [for American hits]. I wasn’t concerned. I would have more discretion now…
this also reminds me of when i was in france - i met a man at university who was an iranian professor of mathematics. i told him that i was ignorant of iranian culture and wished to inquire about anything he might want to tell me. he said, and i'm paraphrasing - "please tell americans that we do not hate them, we are not different from them. we are frightened by our president in the same way that you are. please tell people."

weird that i didn't remember that until now, but there you go. that indicates to me, at my own level of awareness, that in all this hubbub about iran and whether they're a threat or not, whether they are a "danger" - it would behoove us not to forget the iranian people, who are just as much under the thumb of their own pathocrats as we are, here in the west.

Simmi said:
No, there were no military aircraft, but some odd looking tailsigns. (I take it by military, you mean in the camouflage colours?) but most do not have tailsigns.
i guess i was thinking of camouflage, but what you're saying sounds more like the airplane equivalent of big, black SUVs. interesting.

Simmi said:
You know when someone really important comes along, the area is flooded with mean looking policemen sprouting firearms out their ears and plain clothed police discretely sitting in cars all around the airport and approach roads. I was told that Putin had a 20 car motorcade reception - and that was just on the ramp (aircraft park place).
sounds like the PTBs spreading their reality around - guys with guns, fear, secrecy, power - the mac-truck-sized clenched fist of those who rule crushing the hope of the people and further adding to the creation of their own reality. Or, perhaps also, it is a blatant representation of the predator mind's fear of being found out at any moment. Just, if you've got that mind, and 300 guys with machine guns at your disposal, you're gonna carry those guys around...
 
Wow, found out today how much censorship is going on in Iran these days 8|

Iran shuts down sites critical of government: _http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/feb/19/news.newmedia
Iran blocks access to BBC _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4644398.stm
Iran blocks access to reformist websites _http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3376907.stm
and Iran cracks down on blogs _http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2006/03/70522

Makes me wonder, is there anyone from Iran participating here in the forum?
 
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