Interesting Article and information: Fidel Castro agent of the CIA?

irjO

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Greetings! i've been reading for several days about Cuba and Fidel Castro, because there are plenty questions in my mind that i can't resolve so easily... some of them are the next ones:
Why when Castro escalated violence, persecution, crimes and plunder, and then not offered massive aid to the first groups of citizen resistance that arose on the island in late 1959 and early 60?
Why absurd Bay of Pigs invasion and the lack of support of the U.S. armed forces?
Why leave that Castro had his way in the missile crisis (October 1962), when challenged equally American and Soviet governments, endangering world peace?
Why get involved militarily in Vietnam to face the red menace and avoid "falling dominoes" of Asian countries where Communist Cuba in the backyard of the United States, invaded the Latin American countries, risking a "falling domino continental" ?
Why were allowed to fidelistas henchmen torturing American soldiers in Hanoi?
Why invade the Dominican Republic and Cuba?
Why allow Cuba harboring terrorists of American Black Panthers, the Basque ETA, the Irish Republican Army, the Montoneros of Argentina, the Tupamaros of Uruguay and Peru walkers, why allow asylum to mobsters as Robert Vesco?
Why allow the Castro army invaded Angola and instead of reporting it, qualify as "stabilizing troops" in the words of Andrew Jones, Ambassador to the United Nations the Carter administration?
Why allow Castro emptied the prisons of the worst criminal element and send it to Miami Cuban through the Mariel boatlift?
Why expel Cuban Communists of Granada and not Cuba?
Why build widely cons of Nicaragua and the Cuban fighters Miami?
Why invade Panama and not Cuba?
Why let the tyrant Cuban spies in the United States, including within the Department of Defense?
Why impassively tolerated the Cuban air force shot down two planes in international waters defenseless, which claimed the lives of three American citizens?
Why the silence before the landfill Castro Taliban at Guantanamo?
Why Aristide and not the Cuban tyrant?
Why ten American presidents-in the Washingtonian-wide political spectrum have allowed Fidel Castro, a murderer, enslave for over 45 years to a neighboring country and traditional friend of the United States?

Well some of then maybe has their answers already but the thing is that i don't really get the "show" that fidel does of wanting to fight the USA politics and critics their living model, been Cuba one of the most controlled and authoritarian countries, i know some cubans who are desperate to go out of the island and they share the feeling of many there.. they get very poor education and everything they see is controlled by the government... i mean i know the Usa and israel are the most fascist countries which are ruled by psychopaths who are always looking for war and control to establish a world order.. but there is something not quite right (as always).. anyways, i found a very interesting article written by Servando Gonzales that gives me another point of view of this situation and sounds reasonable actually.. here is:

A few days ago on the Internet circulated information that contained a number of items with no byline, taken from the online magazine contactocuba.com (San Juan, Puerto Rico, April 26, 2008). These articles were originally written by writer and journalist Andrés Rivero, and they are a series of questions about things seemingly inexplicable - that could only be explained if Fidel Castro is not really what it says.

However, the articles contain a number of inaccuracies that need to be noted. This is not a criticism of Mr. Rivero, which essentially points to the right answer, because I myself, for many years I considered a pioneer in the development of this theory (See my book History of the revolution Fidel heretical, published in 1986 and my long article "Fidel Castro Supermole", first published in 1995), also i long made the mistake of thinking that Fidel Castro had been recruited by the CIA and had been working for all these years that agency - which is true to some extent, but, as I will explain below, not the whole truth.

The cause of the error is that, to better understand the relationship Castro-CIA must know better the latter and, contrary to what you think the majority of people, the CIA has never been an organization to serve the interests of the people U.S., but Wall Street bankers and oil magnates who created it - all clustered into an organization called the Council on Foreign Relations (Council on Foreign Relations, CFR). This explains why the so-called "failures" of the CIA have always resulted in victories for their real masters.

There is plenty of circumstantial evidence, and at least one eyewitness, indicating that the real masters of the CIA recruited Fidel Castro through its newly created intelligence agency in early 1948 and was sent to Bogota, Colombia as agent provocateur on an important mission. This was to take part in the assassination of populist leader Jorge Gaitan and violent riots then known as the Bogotazo that began on 9 April that year and destroyed much of the city.

It is no accident that the riots coincided with the celebration of the important Bogota Ninth Pan American Conference for Latin American foreign ministers attending. Conference chaired the U.S. Secretary of State George Marshall, a member of the CFR, and a secret agent of the bankers. It is no accident that many of those who were present at the home of Mario Lazo when Castro was recruited, such as Willard and William Pawley Beulac also appeared as if by magic when riots in Bogotá. There was also the mysterious character William Wieland (also known as Arturo Montenegro), who along with Roy Rubbotom (also in Bogotá) then play an important role in propping up Castro in power after 1959.
The Real participation of Castro and the CIA in the Bogotazo is perhaps one of the best kept secrets of the CFR bankers. While almost everyone has heard of CIA involvement in the overthrow of Arbenz in Guatemala and Mossadegh in Iran, two initial operations of the CIA on behalf of their masters, few relate this with the intelligence agency "Bogotazo".

The Bogotazo was actually a psychological warfare operation perpetrated against the American people and the American people. The next day they started rioting, Marshall blamed the Communists for the events, and the terrified chancellors, who had previously expressed doubts and hesitation, without question signed a resolution condemning communism and accepted the creation of the Organization of American States - the notorious OAS.

Actually there is no evidence that the Communists have planned or participated in the incident. The only evidence is alleged false leads that brought the agent provocateur, Fidel Castro, such as throwing flyers with communist literature, Marxist books left in his hotel room, and call in to a radio station in which harangued the mob and said that the riots were the beginning of a communist revolution.

This last detail, provided by William Pawley during a testimony before the U.S. Congress probably false. I base this assumption to make that Pawley, who said that he heard on the radio Castro car he was traveling, was not only present in house during recruitment Lazo de Castro, but he was a close friend of Allen Dulles and, as this, the secret agent of the CFR conspirators. Therefore, he was also part of the secret operation.

The operation was a complete success Bogotazo for bankers, it marked the beginning of the Cold War in the Americas. Needless to say, the Cold War was highly lucrative for bankers, oil magnates and transnational corporations - what later has been called the U.S. military-industrial complex.

Years later, the CFR conspirators faced a serious problem: the Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev was exposed to the world his policy of peaceful coexistence, which involved continued fighting communism VS. capitalism, but only in the commercial and cultural, not the military. This threatened to end the Cold War lucrative. And again resorted Wall Street bankers to its efficient secret agent Alex, who had been so successful during Bogotazo. So they provided him with the complicity of his puppet Batista, the seizure of power in Cuba, so then they infiltrate the Soviets and inciting to heat the cold war.

At first Nikita had doubts about the "communism" of Fidel Castro. According to Sergei Khrushchev said, (son of Nikita), when Castro took power in Cuba in 1959, the Soviet leader was convinced that this was working for the CIA (which showed me that I was not the first suspect, but Khrushchev I had anticipated for several years). But bankers used their CIA to give a silver platter Castro in the Bay of Pigs victory, and this convinced the Soviet leaders of the bona fides of Castro - error that would be regretted later.

Moreover, I've always had the suspicion that some members of the Politburo Soviet leaders had been recruited by the CFR conspirators, and these in turn were convinced Khrushchev that the good intentions of the "Marxist" Fidel. Testing the influence of Wall Street bankers in the Kremlin is that, shortly after the missile crisis, in which Khrushchev did things he should not, David Rockefeller traveled to Moscow and met with Khrushchev. Apparently the Soviet leader did not accept constructive criticism of David and, less than a week later, he was deposed.

All these years the secret agent Fidel "Alex" Castro has been working efficiently in the service of their masters. I have concluded that the explosion of the ship La Coubre and other terrorist acts in Cuba, including the destruction of a Cubana airliner in Barbados, as well as the deaths of John F. Kennedy, Che Guevara and Salvador Allende, to name but a few, have been joint operations-Castro CIA on orders from the bankers of the CFR.

The economic destruction of Cuba and material and moral destruction of his people are not the result of errors, but a carefully planned and executed plan. Cuba is a successful experiment in implementing the New World Order - a totalitarian Communist-Fascist in which the masses are reduced to levels pre-industrial consumer. This explains why the high officials of the CFR refer to Castro's Cuba as the role model.

Right now "Alex" plays an important role in a new psychological warfare operation being carried out against the people of Latin America.

As happened when the Bogotazo, the ruling classes of Latin America fear the penetration of American monopolies protected after the agreements of NAFTA, CAFTA, and others who are in the pipeline. So, like when Bogotazo, the conspirators have invented a new fear, to accept these agreements unconscionable as a lesser evil. Unlike Bogotazo now fear is not communism, but the Castro-Chavez.

But the deterioration of the health of his secret agent is very concerned with the bankers of the CFR. So after work tirelessly to keep racks in Cuba sustainable tyranny to the death of his secret agent.

As Sherlock Holmes said, "If you rule out the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must necessarily be the truth."

Servando Gonzales is an historian, semiotician, writer, political and intelligent analyst.

So, when the Cs say that there is already one world government, it seems very true if what i put above is the real situation! because you know most of the presidents are puppets and Chavez in his war agains the "empire" could be manipulated and controlled by the forces of the secret government and the CIA... on that topic i don't want to say that much because Chavez seems to be the coolest true leader... but in reality my country its getting worst every year.. everything is more and more expensive, controlled (justice and communications) and is very dangerous to live.. but i want to hear your opinions about this article and Fidel Castro been a possible CIA agent and by the way the "experiment" part the Servando mentions above about cuba, reminds me the situation of the massive suicides in a town in Guyana many years ago which was a CIA experiment operation!
 
I don't know you irjO, but you raise a number of interesting questions, thank you. Some of the questions you ask are likely to need help in English translation. Let us take care, take time to understand, and let us not lack diligence here. This topic is well worth exploring. Like this question: Why is Castro's very giving and competent medical doctor system villified for rescuing Iraqi children from the ravages of an embargo? Why was the new state-of-the-art medical school built by Arisitide destroyed and occupied during the invasion of Haitii? These are hard questions. How can David Rockefeller have assumed control of the CFR in 1946, and yet still rule? They are very hard questions, and I have no answers. A number of the questions that you raise deserve more time and background info.

You've got my interest and attention and I do know it is important. How do we take your information-packed post and make it approachable for the uninformed?
 
irjO said:
Why absurd Bay of Pigs invasion and the lack of support of the U.S. armed forces?

The bay of pigs was part of the 'Communist threat' hysteria that was being used by successive US govts. and intel agencies to justify their expansion of empire. So making a big deal about Cuba was a useful way to progam the population. The lack of support for the bay of pigs appears to have been an attempt by certain individuals to make JFK look bad.

irjO said:
Why leave that Castro had his way in the missile crisis (October 1962), when challenged equally American and Soviet governments, endangering world peace?

It was mostly propaganda.

irjO said:
Why get involved militarily in Vietnam to face the red menace and avoid "falling dominoes" of Asian countries where Communist Cuba in the backyard of the United States, invaded the Latin American countries, risking a "falling domino continental"?

The CIA did get involved, very heavily, in LA countries.

irjO said:
Why were allowed to fidelistas henchmen torturing American soldiers in Hanoi?

Who allowed it? Who could stop it?

irjO said:
Why invade the Dominican Republic and Cuba?

Who? When?

irjO said:
Why allow Cuba harboring terrorists of American Black Panthers, the Basque ETA, the Irish Republican Army, the Montoneros of Argentina, the Tupamaros of Uruguay and Peru walkers, why allow asylum to mobsters as Robert Vesco?

Because Cuba was never very significant, except for propaganda purposes.

irjO said:
Why allow the Castro army invaded Angola and instead of reporting it, qualify as "stabilizing troops" in the words of Andrew Jones, Ambassador to the United Nations the Carter administration?

How could they stop it? These were proxy wars, not "official" wars.

irjO said:
Why allow Castro emptied the prisons of the worst criminal element and send it to Miami Cuban through the Mariel boatlift?

The US wanted Cubans to be "free" and come to America, so why not send some criminals?

irjO said:
Why expel Cuban Communists of Granada and not Cuba?

Why did WHO do this?

irjO said:
Why build widely cons of Nicaragua and the Cuban fighters Miami?

I don't understand this question.

irjO said:
Why invade Panama and not Cuba?

Cuba was not strategically important.

irjO said:
Why let the tyrant Cuban spies in the United States, including within the Department of Defense?

What evidence do you have for this?

irjO said:
Why impassively tolerated the Cuban air force shot down two planes in international waters defenseless, which claimed the lives of three American citizens?

Probably because they were CIA drug planes and didn't want a real investigation.

irjO said:
Why the silence before the landfill Castro Taliban at Guantanamo?

I don't understand this question.

irjO said:
Why Aristide and not the Cuban tyrant?

Probably the ease with which the job could be done.

irjO said:
Why ten American presidents-in the Washingtonian-wide political spectrum have allowed Fidel Castro, a murderer, enslave for over 45 years to a neighboring country and traditional friend of the United States?

Which country? Cuba? Because the Americans are not interested in freedom. Although I don't agree with your characterization of Castro.

irjO said:
Well some of then maybe has their answers already but the thing is that i don't really get the "show" that fidel does of wanting to fight the USA politics and critics their living model, been Cuba one of the most controlled and authoritarian countries, i know some cubans who are desperate to go out of the island and they share the feeling of many there.. they get very poor education and everything they see is controlled by the government... i mean i know the Usa and israel are the most fascist countries which are ruled by psychopaths who are always looking for war and control to establish a world order.. but there is something not quite right (as always).. anyways, i found a very interesting article written by Servando Gonzales that gives me another point of view of this situation and sounds reasonable actually.. here is:

Cuba is very small and has played a very small role on the international stage. It's possible that Castro was/is a "CIA man" with the job of making "communism" look bad, but I doubt it.
 
Thanks for the response perceval and potamus, i have to be carefull with my keyboard because its in spanish and sometimes when i write in english it does automatically change the words without my concern...

back to the topic

Why invade the Dominican Republic and Cuba?

Who? When?

the question really is: Why invade the Dominican Republic and not Cuba? / the US government invaded dominican republic in 1965 for the second time, because the first time was back in 1916.

Why build widely cons of Nicaragua and the Cuban fighters Miami?

the question was: Why the U.S. gives weapons widely to Nicaragua's soldiers movement "contras", and not to the cubans fighters from Miami?

Why expel Cuban Communists of Granada and not Cuba?

Why did WHO do this?

The US government

Why let the tyrant Cuban spies in the United States, including within the Department of Defense?

What evidence do you have for this?

Fidel himself reveals on a book (autobiography) that he has spies inside the department and he knew things like the murder of kennedy days before it happen for example, this later was confirm by one of his sister (don't remember her name) which was later an open CIA agent and left Cuba in the early years and she tells tha fidel gets information that only someone who works with the US government would know.. we have the Che Guevara situation who was killed by the CIA, he was one of the best "confident" of castro, he left the island because he knew that the revolution wasn't a real one and had his doubts, but of course this wasn't an open information and the only person who knew where and when he was going to be the day he was killed were the Castro brothers.. the most recent example is why he knew about the earthquake in Haiti was induced by the US?

Why ten American presidents-in the Washingtonian-wide political spectrum have allowed Fidel Castro, a murderer, enslave for over 45 years to a neighboring country and traditional friend of the United States?

Which country? Cuba? Because the Americans are not interested in freedom. Although I don't agree with your characterization of Castro.

yes Cuba, i know americans are not interested in freedom, is the truth, but my characterization of castro it is not quite personal, i mean if i look into the experiences of people who was working with the Cuba government and then escape the island, they tell almost everything they did or know about Fidel's administration and the way they killed and tortured political prisioners and people who was against Castro in the island..

The thing is, it could be the truth the situation that US doesn't care about Cuba and Fidel because it is not relevant for them or they don't have many resources there, but my doubt exist because when fidel started the revolution to get the power, this was supported by the US government and the media, there was plenty of interviews fidel did before take the power and it put me thinking the idea about the whole Cuba been an experiment of the CIA to see how people would live in a very controlled environment.. sounds like a little crazy and big statement at the same time... remember when the C's say that the biggest secret of the consortium was that we are an experiment?.. i don't know... anyways thanks again for the response, i'd like to see your opinions to see if i am out of topic or not :)
 
I can't say that it should be taken as literal history, but the book The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty offers useful insights into understanding how these things work.

Personally, I am fascinated by the way that, after studying them for some time, our (USA) corrupt & covert foreign policy and the "defense" industry, the corrupt financial services industry, the corrupt food producing & processing industry, the corrupt medical services & pharmaceutical industry, and the corrupt shenanigans surrounding EMF safety and the cell phone industry (the areas that I have been studying) seem to melt together into one corrupt whole that, at that scale, would seem not to be a human conspiracy.

In a sense, then, Prouty's claims are supported by the work of other authors writing about other "industries," who apparently were not even aware of each other as investigators.

So in trying to understand Cuba, I think it is important study other things as well, so that you will be able to put it all in perspective. But start where you are, with the questions you have now, keeping in mind the possibility of broader connections.
 
I don't know you irjO, but you raise a number of interesting questions, thank you. Some of the questions you ask are likely to need help in English translation. Let us take care, take time to understand, and let us not lack diligence here. This topic is well worth exploring. Like this question: Why is Castro's very giving and competent medical doctor system villified for rescuing Iraqi children from the ravages of an embargo? Why was the new state-of-the-art medical school built by Arisitide destroyed and occupied during the invasion of Haitii? These are hard questions. How can David Rockefeller have assumed control of the CFR in 1946, and yet still rule? They are very hard questions, and I have no answers. A number of the questions that you raise deserve more time and background info.

You've got my interest and attention and I do know it is important. How do we take your information-packed post and make it approachable for the uninformed?

well indeed! is difficult to find reliable sources on this topic, there is so much desinfo out there about this, so that's why i like to share and discuss this in this forum because is the only place where we can really clarify most of the noise!
 
irjO I recomend You to read "JFK and the Unspeakable" by James W. Douglass.

Extraordinary book !!!

You will find there genesis of Bay of Pigs, Misile Crisis and why and by whom Cuban exiles were suported.

Also what was the meaning of "War on Comunism" for US administration that days and other useful historical insights which still may have their application in understanding of our present time.

Buy it! :)
 
ok Megan :) and Mikel thanks for the recomendation i will look that book!
 
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