Is it all about meat?

ifrakhaliq

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Being new and from what I have read about low carb diet as well as from some additional research on internet, it seems that this new diet revolves around meat. Is it so? I mean does one have to survive just on meat? No fruits and milk?

It's definitely difficult to get away from wheat as it's what we eat thrice a day :/
 
ifrakhaliq said:
Being new and from what I have read about low carb diet as well as from some additional research on internet, it seems that this new diet revolves around meat. Is it so? I mean does one have to survive just on meat? No fruits and milk?

It's definitely difficult to get away from wheat as it's what we eat thrice a day :/

Well, the fuel part is animal fats with some meats for nutrition, building and repair. And yeah, it comes down to excluding about everything else. But the rationale and amazing benefits (including the fact that you eat way less and thus have less impact on the environment) are all covered in the Ketogenic Diet thread. I realize that the "Life Without Bread" thread and the "Ketogenic Diet" threads are long and daunting, but the effort to get through them is worth it. You need to understand things before you try them.
 
If you are a meat-eating animal by nature (physiology) then it's all about meat. We have considerable capacity for plant foods, though they don't really seem to provide sufficient nutrition to fuel the brain, but our digestive tracts are basically those of meat eaters. It's not something we get to choose.

One thing we definitely are not is wheat eaters. We have never successfully adapted to eating it in 10,000 years of trying, and there is no reason to think that a nutrient-sparse food like that would result in more healthy, aware humans even if we somehow could neutralize all the toxins in the seed. And we (fortunately) lack the kind of bulky digestive tract that could digest the grass itself.

Wheat is a fall-back for people that have nothing good to eat, and a large step backward for human evolution.
 
Laura said:
ifrakhaliq said:
Being new and from what I have read about low carb diet as well as from some additional research on internet, it seems that this new diet revolves around meat. Is it so? I mean does one have to survive just on meat? No fruits and milk?

It's definitely difficult to get away from wheat as it's what we eat thrice a day :/

Well, the fuel part is animal fats with some meats for nutrition, building and repair. And yeah, it comes down to excluding about everything else. But the rationale and amazing benefits (including the fact that you eat way less and thus have less impact on the environment) are all covered in the Ketogenic Diet thread. I realize that the "Life Without Bread" thread and the "Ketogenic Diet" threads are long and daunting, but the effort to get through them is worth it. You need to understand things before you try them.

I totally agree with Laura and Megan. Would also like to stress the importance of what Laura said - the bolded part - yes, it is meat primarily but the fats are on the top of the list, protein is second. So the fattier the meat, the better. One should really get into it when you have all the info provided in the LWB and KD threads as well as the recommended health books or start cutting the carbs and eventually decreasing the amounts while you're reading.

Megan said:
If you are a meat-eating animal by nature (physiology) then it's all about meat. We have considerable capacity for plant foods, though they don't really seem to provide sufficient nutrition to fuel the brain, but our digestive tracts are basically those of meat eaters. It's not something we get to choose.

One thing we definitely are not is wheat eaters. We have never successfully adapted to eating it in 10,000 years of trying, and there is no reason to think that a nutrient-sparse food like that would result in more healthy, aware humans even if we somehow could neutralize all the toxins in the seed. And we (fortunately) lack the kind of bulky digestive tract that could digest the grass itself.

Wheat is a fall-back for people that have nothing good to eat, and a large step backward for human evolution.

But things like wheat, gluten, etc should definitely be cut as soon as possible.
 
I have already given up on wheat as much as possible. One thing I wanted to know here is that is corn fine in the initial weeks?
 
ifrakhaliq said:
I have already given up on wheat as much as possible. One thing I wanted to know here is that is corn fine in the initial weeks?

Hi ifrakhaliq, like others already did, i would recommend you to get through the "Life Without Bread" and the "Ketogenic Diet" threads (the former is better for starters). It will take some time but it's worth it. You will see that "as much as possible" is not the right method but a waste of effort if you decided to go gluten-free, so "the less the better" theory does not apply in gluten/grain-free diet.

Regarding to your question, yes corn is dangerous too. Besides the fact that most corn around the globe is genetically modified, corn gluten is similar to wheat gluten.

http://www.sott.net/article/242066-Corn-Maize-Gluten-is-Harmful-Not-Safe-For-Those-With-Gluten-Sensitivity

Here is a good video about gluten proteins found in various grains.

http://www.glutenfreesociety.org/video-tutorial/gluten-sensitivity-what-is-it/
 
un chien anadolu said:
You will see that "as much as possible" is not the right method but a waste of effort if you decided to go gluten-free, so "the less the better" theory does not apply in gluten/grain-free diet.

I second that, been there and it was not working, first after reading the LWB thread I found out that after 6 or so months without grains and milk you don't get hungry, to eat all the time. In the morning about 9 I had bacon, eggs and sweet potatoes and then about 5pm hungry again. Steak and next morning bacon again, and believe me you will not get enough bacon even after eating it day by day for months :D
 
Yep! As Laura said,
I realize that the "Life Without Bread" thread and the "Ketogenic Diet" threads are long and daunting, but the effort to get through them is worth it.

And this is absolutely true. It actually delayed my reading of them, but the sheer amount of information gleaned from everyone's questions and answers is truly invaluable.

I think what can be one of the hardest parts of switching to the grain-free ketogenic diet is planning and preparation. Even though my area has all the 'regular' ammenities for groceries, it's still quite difficult to find good sources for meat without nasty chemicals, grass-fed and so on. So just going out to grab something to cook up from the store isn't always a viable option. I'm personally looking into a chest freezer, that way one can freeze soup bones, meats and so on, having them always on hand.

Just a little tid bit. All this and more found in those threads. Enjoy reading them! I know I did! :)
 
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