Is the end game from Ukraine to Syria to pit the US against Russia?

syldan

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Is the end game from Ukraine to Syria to pit the US against Russia? AND IF SO, IS IT WORKING?

There's something in all of this (world's geo-policical 'great game') from the Ukraine crisis to the Syria debacle that ruffles more and more my feathers, as years go by and changes take place. And it might be a question to address the C's again, in the sense that they have already stated in the past that we live under a one world government.

And, as i say this, keeping in mind that in 1976, one my my college political science teachers told our class the exact same thing, thinking: if that is the case, are we also being manipulated at this level where changes are implemented, always seemingly right at the edge of total chaos, in order to keep the 'great game' going? Is this Putin (and i not only believe in him, but moreover feel like he comes like a saviour in a time when i thought the end game was near) intervention, something that was already planned strategically? By this one world government? Meaning, is the ONE WORLD COVERT GOVERNMENT above the Consortium, and other groups? The same way countries were split in two ideologies purposefully, between the Capitalist block and the Communist block, after the second world war, and the way today the power and money is shifting from the West to the East openly?

i'm not certain how i would formulate the question but i feel it might be a good question: As in " Are we once again being 'manipulated' with this seeming 'hope', or has the balance of power really, truly, honestly 'shifted'. Or, am i the only one to feel this way?

Is there still A (Cohesive) ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT running the show, configuring all the wars, and crisis, in order to keep the 'game' going as long as possible, or HAS SOMETHING CHANGED (as stated in a recent session: "They did not expect a Putin") or has something been thrown in the gears of the project derailing the entire scam?
 
Romochar:

These are interesting points you brought up, and no you’re not alone. I too remember the C’s saying we were already in a one world government, before Putin came forward as a force to be reckoned with. The pattern of these wars is that the creeps who’s names we never know, switch sides for a new host country (the winning side) and let the old host take all the blame and be blown into rubble.

“If” our paradigm was static, then Putin/Russian would be only a tool in the same old game, and the creeps are going to join BRICS, help defeat the NWO, and set up shop in the new (cleared of excess population) world.

However, there’s more. The consortium is, as I understand it, human. Thus taking orders and receiving power from interdimensional’s. And, our paradigm isn’t static. So I have to weigh in the; end of the era/great harvest cycle, comet bombardment cycle, nemesis return, wave cycle, and cosmic/karmic balancing. All that wasn’t going on during the last war gaming. At least to the extent that that it is now.

I read in the wave series “somewhere” that the interdimensional creeps were breaking the rules and yep it was “wrong” but it could last but for a short time before balancing would be brought back in to play. We have seen and are seeing dark time so bad that if the “balancing” does come soon then what ? It’s kind of now or never.

So, it’s at least possible that in the dimensions that operate above us they are losing position and power, and the white hats are preforming some “balancing” which I would assume could disturb or destroy the power of the consortium, and hopefully the snake would turn on itself.

Anyway, that’s my 2 cents, and I’d love to hear more discussion on the subject.
 
@Adobe
i think it's getting closer, day in day out: but my question for the C's still remains? Was that the goal in the first place, and if so; is it only part of a bigger plan? If so does that plan consist of making us run after our own tails like cats or dogs? Is the overall aims of all that has transpired with Russia overturning the tide in the Middle-East as it were, the goal all along? (Pushing the US's buttons against Russia, which didn't come to fruitition in Ukraine?!) In order to create a bigger conflagration?

It still feels like we're missing something?

http://www.sott.net/article/305803-Are-movements-by-the-US-and-Russias-militaries-signaling-a-direct-confrontation-in-Syria

Basically what i think i am trying to ask is IF THIS is all laid out ahead of time, even though "they didn't expect a Putin", and the ideal situation from the onset was to create such problems (real or staged) between the US (Western powers) and Russia, such that they would ignite a more 'heated' level of 'cold' war? Because the way it's looking now from the outside, is that there will be accidental what not's and then bang, we will be in the crosshairs of an all out US-Russia WAR?
 
romochar said:
i think it's getting closer, day in day out: but my question for the C's still remains? Was that the goal in the first place, and if so; is it only part of a bigger plan? If so does that plan consist of making us run after our own tails like cats or dogs? Is the overall aims of all that has transpired with Russia overturning the tide in the Middle-East as it were, the goal all along? (Pushing the US's buttons against Russia, which didn't come to fruitition in Ukraine?!) In order to create a bigger conflagration?

http://www.sott.net/article/305803-Are-movements-by-the-US-and-Russias-militaries-signaling-a-direct-confrontation-in-Syria

Basically what i think i am trying to ask is IF THIS is all laid out ahead of time, even though "they didn't expect a Putin", and the ideal situation from the onset was to create such problems (real or staged) between the US (Western powers) and Russia, such that they would ignite a more 'heated' level of 'cold' war?
In my opinion the hope still remains. I think that Russia is currently a balancing force to the severe sts mode of the west. Putin and company don't seem to be playing the full on sts game. They have a clearer vision of what is going on and how to deal with it than the west. The west only sees their goal and they do not see how they could ever fail at it. Russia, however, sees what the west is doing and is proactively shutting them down for the benefit of all mankind. As we are all sts here, some have the ability to make steps not to be.

Could all of this be an elaborate ruse? I guess it could but I don't think so (maybe wishful thinking on my part). Certainly not a bad question though. In the back of my mind I sometimes wonder the same thing.
 
romochar said:
Basically what i think i am trying to ask is IF THIS is all laid out ahead of time, even though "they didn't expect a Putin", and the ideal situation from the onset was to create such problems (real or staged) between the US (Western powers) and Russia, such that they would ignite a more 'heated' level of 'cold' war? Because the way it's looking now from the outside, is that there will be accidental what not's and then bang, we will be in the crosshairs of an all out US-Russia WAR?

I think the C's hinted that an all-out nuclear war won't be allowed by 4D forces as that would make the Earth quite useless for them. Nuclear weapons are probably the main reason why another world war is quite unlikely. The two world wars could really only take place because there were no nuclear weapons involved yet.
 
Hi,
Thank you for opening this thread, as it also made me think for a while. So, here's my opinion:

1. Living in a physical world, polarization is needed for an action to take place (The Law of three). So, now is action time. How could evolve depends on the Law of seven, so additional inputs in appropriate timing!

2. But we were told not to believe in fixed futures:
{7 Jan 1996: The forces at work here are far too clever to be accurately anticipated so easily. You never know what twists and turns will follow, and they are aware of prophetic and philosophical patternings and usually shift course to fool and discourage those who believe in fixed futures.}

Yet, meanwhile,a separate timeline development could have happened? Maybe there's already an Earth where, let as say, there is no Russian advancement as we perceive it here?? Maybe there are several timelines already?

3. Another point is (linked to point 1), - with Earth becoming an absolute dark-forces' place, would exclude all existence, evolution, movement, transformation, etc. So, for the time being there is no exclusive dominance possible.

Maybe butterfly wings are more powerful now than fighter jets?

Definitely interesting times
Joy
 
It does seem that this is a “plan” that, one way or another, leads to the great harvest and the software that we live in has predetermined, and repeating patterns.

(Hypothesis)

A short period of time ago we were on a different time line. One where Cayce and others had predicted that Russian would become the hope of the world. At that time it was only a possibility of the way it “could” play out, not written in stone. During the end of that timeline (a few months ago) I thought the world is doomed, its all over but the body count, the best I can do is learn, do the work, and grow a little more before lights out. Now entering the new timeline were the Russian potential has been advanced, and may mitigate the destruction, and give opportunity for white hats to work, I’ve change my thinking to allow for some good to cushion the crash landing that I still think will happen. Maybe it’s the difference between, red glowing skies scenario & what it was like after the Pleistocene period ended 12 thousand and some odd years ago.

(Metaphor)

A soccer player comes to the realization that the game is rigged and they will definitely lose. He becomes depressed, angry etc. He goes to the coach and explains his realization. The coach says yep your right, good insight on your part, in the last quarter when we are worn to the nub, we will lose. Well than I don’t want to play anymore…what’s the point? Coach says, you came on the field today with a certain amount of abilities and set against such odds you have the opportunity to improve yourself greatly. This isn’t the only game you will ever play you know. So, just what do you want to do with yourself? (My apologies for the simplicity)

(Law of seven)

I get the law of three, but have never really had a good grasp on the law of seven. Can someone explain it a simple terms? I get lost in the musical explanation. Can I just say' everything comes back to the beginning?

(Nuclear wars)

The idea that there will be no nuclear war, just can’t be so. As it has already happened, between wars (hot) and accidents (hot) it is clear that it is a possibility. But it is logical that the PTB, in higher dimensions would not want to destroy the school, or the farm depending on what side they’re on. So complete destruction ....maybe not.

My idea of how this thread works is that, someone put up a question they would like clarification on, and together we network trying to answer it. In the end, we have answered the question “enough” that we no longer need to ask it, or that the moderators should consider taking it to the C’s. I’ve got a feeling if we ask the C’s they would say something like: “Yes it’s all planned. And, that can be changed!” :-)
 
Wow! Thank you for those brilliant answers Adobe, Shared Joy, axj, and Captainmurphy! They have given me a lot of food for thought, and i agree with Adobe, in that we can, as we network these issues, come to some sound conclusions. Very much so!

i feel a little intimidated by the idea of a 'change in the timeline'. What seems absolutely possible though, in my mind, is that we can change, even the best laid plans of the control system, and that is how i interpret the change of timeline. Because it seems to me that we are doing just that by networking this way on such issues as those we are discussing on this thread.

Thanks to all!
 
Just to add my bit to the discussion...

Captainmurphy said:
Could all of this be an elaborate ruse? I guess it could but I don't think so (maybe wishful thinking on my part). Certainly not a bad question though. In the back of my mind I sometimes wonder the same thing.

I agree. After 9/11 happened, the propaganda machine seemed well-oiled, the propaganda itself organized and all the government spokespeople on the same page. And the 'posse comitatus' thing and all those freedom-busting laws came quickly as if they were already poised to be rolled out on cue.

On the other hand, the Western response to what Putin began seems disorganized, "proofs of Russian aggression" non-existent, false narratives just plain silly, and everybody caught off guard (not on the same page), etc. So, I agree with the ideas expressed by saying "They did not expect a Putin."
 
'They' didn't expect 'a' Stalin either.... thus the B plan called Hitler....then C plan of replacing Britain/Germany with USAmerica... which is disposable as well for 4dSTS use. The main goal seems to be to 'keep your eyes on the prize'... global domination and control... thus any independent states have to be corralled and put under the yoke... has it ever been any different once 'civilization' and its path to 'progress' ie, empire gets started? The question seems to be how well Putin has learned the lessons from Russia's past. We have seen his path of 'waking up' before our eyes, as only the STO type seem to have it displayed in public.

There are different types of war of course, and the financial, economic, social etc have come into play already... sort of like that book 'The Economic Hitman'... wasn't that it? That guy who worked for the banks? If he couldn't get the job done, then the jackals were called in for a little assassination or 'regime change', colored revolution et al.
 
I think the most important thing for us to remember, while we're watching 'the show' is that our choices still matter. I was watching Hunger Games with my folks tonight, and it made me think how powerful Katniss' propos were. The equivalent in our setting are youtube videos, tweets, and facebook posts.

We can use social media as a platform to broadcast as much truth into the system as possible. As much as we don't see direct consequences from any of that, I believe making those choices day in, day out act as a sort of declaration to the universe where we stand.

I read that piece earlier linked, the one about the US and Russian forces lining up for a fight, especially over the air in Syria. I thought how calling the whitehouse comment line is a joke, right? Why would the pathological elite ever listen to us? But then I thought how making that call, making a statement to whoever is on the other end that we do NOT want further war in Syria, that we should get out immediately and stop backing any 'rebels' moderate or otherwise is not only a statement to the whitehouse, but to the universe.

So as scary as it is and as powerless as we feel, we have far more power than we realize. It's our choices that matter, what we see, and how we act on that information. That's a superpower we all have, we just have to choose to use it.
 
Adobe said:
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(Law of seven)

I get the law of three, but have never really had a good grasp on the law of seven. Can someone explain it a simple terms? I get lost in the musical explanation. Can I just say' everything comes back to the beginning?

Hi Adobe,

here's what Mouravieff said about the Law of Seven (Gnosis, vol I, Chapter X)
.....the second fundamental law: the Law of Seven. This law applies neither to the creation nor to the existence of things and phenomena in space, but to their evolution in Time. It concerns the action of all types of movement on all planes at all the steps of Creation.
To understand the Law of Seven better, and to realize its importance, we must examine another aspect of the problem. We have seen that while he lives in such a jungle of laws, the only chance man has is to put himself under the authority of the Law of Exception, an esoteric law which permits him to escape from the ensemble of 'A' influences whose action in the external world strikes our inner world directly. As an action, this evasion also falls under the empire of the Law of Seven.
In accordance with this law, as we shall see in a moment, every action is subject to one or more changes in direction and as a consequence is in
principle doomed to failure. However, by analyzing the action of the Law of Seven, we shall grasp the character of these deviations, and their necessity from the objective point of view. We shall learn how it is possible to combat these deviations and continue in a constant direction in pursuit of our goals.

The nature of the Law of Seven and its objective necessity result from the destructive character of Time, the second condition of Creation. By
virtue of this principle, everything which is born or created — man included — is doomed to annihilation. The Universe itself ever since its
creation has also been threatened with annihilation through the action of Time. It has been necessary ever since to face up to this danger. The Law of Seven represents the means by which the destructive action of Time is to a certain measure neutralized.

A movement cannot be dissociated from its duration. As all action is either an exterior or an interior movement, every action takes Time. The
Law of Seven consists precisely in the fact that any movement, once launched, undergoes a deviation at a certain moment and then, after going a certain distance in the new direction, another deviation, then yet again. If the initial impulse is strong enough, by its last deviation after tracing a Hexagon the movement comes back to the point where it started. Thus, under the influence of the Law of Seven, every action generated in the Universe unfolds in cycles (Fig. 31).

So, please go to the book and read this simple explanation, as I don't know how to draw the image here.

If you don't have the book, imagine a hexagon and consider action starting in point 1 of the left side vertical line base and your goal is a continuation of that line, outside the hexagon.

But if you don't apply an action/shock at point 2 (the top of the left side vertical line), the direction of action will follow along the next three sides, and will end outside the hexagon, opposite to your goal.

But if you apply constantly an input at point 2, the movement will stay on the rim of the hexagon and will do a complete turn. That's how you'll get closer and closer to your goal, which can also suffer some modification meanwhile, but, amid this constant change, a process is sustained in achieving your purpose.

....definition of the Law of Seven.
Definition: Any movement that begins in a given direction undergoes a deviation at a certain moment.
Conversely: For a movement going towards a definite goal to continue without deviation in the same direction, it is necessary to impart to it adequate additional impulses at specific moments and points.
Corollary: If left to itself, by the third deviation a movement which follows a definite direction is found to be going in the diametrically opposite direction.
These are the essential characteristics of the Law of Seven.

I don't know if this helped you to understand, I think, I have to learn some new skills here to be of better service :-[
Joy
 
“not only a statement to the whitehouse, but to the universe.”

I like that idea. We are receiving and transmitting all the time and the universe is monitoring and perhaps making adjustments to the paradigm (like an experiment). I’m starting to let go of the idea that when I resist or stand for something it only benefits me and my development, and I have no influence what so ever in the operation of the way the world is going. I resist in a conversation and the other person walks away thinking I’m nuts, and it has no influence at all, except to me. But maybe the universe is collecting transmissions and that means something. Thanks Puck

Shared Joy:

Thank you for helping…..I do have the Mouravieff books and will continue reading on the concept. Some esoteric work comes easily to me, and some, like the law of seven, I slip all over the place like sliding on ice.

I’m here, and I want to get to my stated goal over “there” because of some many “influences” I realize it is impossible to get there in a straight line that I can carefully plan out. So, I must start not knowing how I’m going to get there. There must be “shocks” made by the universe or by me myself to adjust the pattern to get to the goal. Why there are seven escapes me. I think the shocks can be quit painful and cost a lot, so only the determined can arrive at their goal. I’m working on it.
 

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