Kenny Boy Lay's 'Heart Attack'

[jaye]

Does anyone believe that Ken Lay had a heart attack before he was about to be sentenced? Did he cheat the hangman somehow-making his 'death' look like a 'heart attack'? Will others, like Cheney, follow? Remember William Casey who died of a 'brain tumor' during the Iran/Contra hearings? From a mind control perspective-what message is intended to be imprinted upon the public consciousness with this one-that we should feel sorry for someone who is behind the worst corporate scandal in known history? Because he had such a soft heart?

 

[Mr. Premise]

Yes, the news reports quoted his pastor who said his heart "just gave out." I think they want us to feel sorry for him and guilty at the same time.

Now Casey, that was really something. No one ever reported he even had a brain tumor. He was scheduled to testify the next day, then all of a sudden he died of a brain tumor!

Does anyone believe that Ken Lay had a heart attack before he was about to be sentenced? Did he cheat the hangman somehow-making his 'death' look like a 'heart attack'? Will others, like Cheney, follow? Remember William Casey who died of a 'brain tumor' during the Iran/Contra hearings? From a mind control perspective-what message is intended to be imprinted upon the public consciousness with this one-that we should feel sorry for someone who is behind the worst corporate scandal in known history? Because he had such a soft heart?

 

[rs]

Check this out...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060705/tc_nm/enron_lay_wikipedia_dc_2

Ken Lay's death prompts confusion on Wikipedia

1 hour, 14 minutes ago

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The death of former Enron Corp. chief Ken Lay on Wednesday underscored the challenges facing online encyclopedia
Wikipedia (http://www.wikipedia.org/), which as the news was breaking offered a variety of causes for his death.

Lay, 64, died of a heart attack early on Wednesday, a family spokeswoman said, just six weeks after a jury found him guilty of fraud in one of the biggest corporate scandals in U.S. history.

Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, added news of Lay's death to his online biography shortly after news outlets began reporting it at around 10 a.m. EDT (1400 GMT).

At 10:06 a.m., Wikipedia's entry for Lay said he died "of an apparent suicide."

At 10:08, it said he died at his Aspen, Colorado home "of an apparent [[heart attack] or suicide.]."

Within the same minute, it said the cause of death was "yet to be determined."

At 10:09 a.m., it said "no further details have been officially released" about the death.

Two minutes later, it said: "The guilt of ruining so many lives finally [sic] led him to his suicide."

At 10.12 a.m., this was replaced by: "According to Lay's pastor the cause was a 'massive coronary' heart attack."

By 10:39 a.m., Lay's entry said: "Speculation as to the cause of the heart attack lead many people to believe it was due to the amount of stress put on him by the Enron trial." This statement was later dropped.

By early Wednesday afternoon, the entry said Lay was pronounced dead at Aspen Valley Hospital, citing the Pitkin, Colorado sheriff's department. It said he apparently died of a massive heart attack, citing KHOU-TV in Houston.

Officials at Wikipedia did not immediately return phone and e-mail requests for comment. Its Web site warns users that "newer articles may still contain significant misinformation, unencyclopedic content, or vandalism." Wikipedia says it has 13,000 active writers and editors.

Lay and Jeffrey Skilling, who replaced him as chief executive, were convicted for their roles in Enron's 2001 collapse. Both were awaiting sentencing and faced long prison terms.

Could it be that the PTB found it difficult to get the "story" straight?

 

[jaye]

It's the ol' Confuse-a-Cat Monty Python bit via Wikipedia. I'm left wondering if there will be a chain reaction now: Tom DeLay and others with their scandal butts up against the wall, all doing the suicide/natural death bit paying off someone to make wax replicas of their corpses to be displayed in state sponsored funerals like Reagan's. Then there will be a museum road tour w/ their replica corpses for people to admire around election time next November.

 

[Arlo_usa]

Tsk. An unfortunate "heart attack".

How convenient!

I suspect that Kenny Boy may have been ready to roll, particularly regarding Cheney's secret energy policy meetings.

Kenny Boy's cardiac difficulties are as believable as Phil Merrill Levine's "suicide".

"Gambino" Jacky Abramoff would be well advised to have, say, 500 copies of his story, ready to be mailed worldwide just in case he chokes to death on a pretzel, or is found asphysxiated with his own underwear.

If he does take out such an insurance policy, we have far better odds that a copy or two may find it's way into the public domain.

 

[jaye]

This from Planet Waves:


PEOPLE all over the Internet are writing in screaming, "They killed Kenny!" with images of the salt truck and the microwave oven in the operating room scene flashing through my mind. Yesterday I pronounced Kenny Lay alive, but I do like the .alt theories: nearly all of which suggest that his death was very convenient for the Bush crime family. Potential secrets about Sept. 11 and the Uzbekistan oil pipeline and the Arnie election and Kenny only knows what else have all now disappeared from the radar.

Also, it's entirely plausible that he just had a massive. These things do happen, and the timing, if convenient for everyone involved, makes sense. I mean, if you were Kenny Lay, wouldn't you consider checking out? Some good astrologers have written in and said that there is heart disease all over the chart.

But I will say that whether you're really dead or just pretending, it amounts to about the same thing. You're not going to be testifying or having any meetings with Patrick Fitzgerald. You're not going to be brought back to life -- that would -flick- up things for all the other undead folks out there, and the people who make them that way. It would be worse than CNN finally running the UFO story they've been sitting on for 15 years.

Here is my horary chart for the question -- the time I became aware of the question and decided to investigate (same moment). For my interpretation of this chart, see edition below.

http://planetwaves.net/chart.php?c=is_kenny_dead

Now for the chart of the death certificate time, the "official" time -- not the actual time of the event, which is not timed to the minute:

http://planetwaves.net/chart.php?c=lay_pronounced_dead

The first thing I usually look at is the ascendant, which in this case is Gemini, and therefore Kenny is represented by Mercury retrograde in Leo, 3rd house. This feels tricksterish; like there are two stories (Gemini), and that Mercury is like a little elf or thief running off with the gold.

The next thing I notice is that Mars is about to oppose Neptune, Look at that opposition -- Mars is the red Guy symbol and Neptune is the blue Trident up top. They are exact to 6 minutes of arc. In this chart Mars rules two signs/houses: the 12th house of the unknown; and the 6th house (intercepted) of health matters. My judgment is that no matter how you look at that Mars, you're not going to get a straight story.

The 8th house (nature and cause of death) is Sagittarius. We have Pluto right there, the natural ruler of death, but Pluto is retrograde, as if retreating from the edge of the cusp.

The Moon and Jupiter in this house form a complex configuration with Chiron and Saturn; the Moon is about to get mixed up in that T-square: soon to make a conjunction to Jupiter and square Chiron and Mars. The Moon has just made a square to Mercury -- that's the last thing it did -- so we see some contact between the Moon and the subject of the question (important for a working chart). But a lot happens in the future, for a dead guy. The Moon is only in the 3rd degree of Scorpio, so it has a long way to go, and a lot of planets to aspect.

The real question is: do we see contact between the significator for Lay, which is Mercury, and the significator for the lord of death, which is Jupiter. This would suggest that the person involved actually had an encounter with the "nature and cause of death" suggested by Jupiter. Mercury and Jupiter are in a square aspect, but Mercury is retrograde, retreating away from Jupiter. They never actually made a square.

The Moon squares Mercury and brings the light of Mercury to Jupiter, but that's rather indirect and it's something that happens in the future. When you're dead, that's already supposed to have happened. I will stick to my original theory that Kenny Boy is alive and well.

Ken Lay's natal chart and data:
http://planetwaves.net/chart.php?c=kenny_lay

Ken Lay's progressions to yesterday:
http://planetwaves.net/chart.php?c=ken_lay_progr

CNN article on Lay's Wikipedia entry, sort of ridiculous
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/07/05/lay.wikipedia.reut/index.html

The Wiki Entry, sort of basic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Lay