Knee joint injury

Kosma

Kosma

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Hi

Does anyone has some recommendations for knee joint injury treatment (supplements or procedures)? In my case its Anterior cruciate ligament injury that occured half year ago. I was feared of invalidism back then and was barely walked with crotches, but I did a lot of examinations and they've showed my ACL isnt totally thorn, fortunately. Physiotherapy sessions gave me back an ability to walk quite freely and even a good reason to avoid surgery, as my physiotherapists advised me. Funny thing that even orthopaedics seems a very corrupted piece of western medicine - I had to deal with many contrary opinions (i.e. absurds of orthosis use).
 
Hi, Kosma

Sorry to hear about your knee injury. It’s good that you decided against surgery and opted for physical therapy. I found an article on Mercola that discusses the disadvantages of surgery and he recommends a structured physical therapy as well: _http://fitness.mercola.com/sites/fitness/archive/2016/08/12/knee-injury-surgery-exercise.aspx

Other information I came across says that controlling inflammation is critical, so avoiding triggers such as processed foods, gluten, dairy and other foods that you personally might be sensitive to is important as is controlling stress. There was a recent H&W show devoted to inflammation:
https://www.sott.net/article/316879-The-Health-Wellness-Show-Inflammation-The-Root-of-Disease

I also found an article where a woman claimed she was able to heal her knee injury. She used a number of essential oils, Arnica, as well as supplements including Turmeric and Glucosamine sulfate. See: _http://wendypolisi.com/heal-a-knee-injury-naturally/

Hope that helps - am sure others will have more information as well. :hug2:
 
5 Herbal Remedies For Knee Injury
http://www.findhomeremedy.com/5-herbal-remedies-for-knee-injury/

Also, have you thought about acupuncture?
Hope that helps :hug2:
 
Hi Kosma,

I'm glad you decided against the surgery. I have osteoarthritis (not rheumatoid) since 20 years and what helps me is a diet free of inflammatory foods, supplements reducing inflammation (for example, turmeric), cold showers and far-infrared sauna (to improve blood circulation). Additionally you can try some physical therapy exercises.

I hope that could help. :hug:
 
Hello Kosma,

I would second the advice given by others. It will make your physiotherapy work more successful.

Although injury of the anterior cruciate ligament is more specific, I know people with osteoarthrosis and ruptured meniscus in the knee. In the long run, a good physiotherapist and the suggested exercises is one of the things that helps the most.

Certainly an anti-inflammatory diet is very useful. Also, when the knee is very inflamed, it helps to have comfrey poultices which you can combine with DMSO. It "shrinks" the inflammation.

Hope your knee gets better!
 
Sorry to hear about your knee Kosma, and I'm also glad you decided against the surgery.

In addition to the other suggestions, regularly practicing EE and the pipe breathing exercises could help keep any underlying inflammation under control.

Hope your knee heals quickly. :hug2:
 
Hi Kosma, though i haven't had exactly the issue you describe, i did damage the muscles and joints in my legs (knees included) back in 2011. As others have mentioned - and i can attest to their efficacy - changing my diet; supplements: magnesium (i liked glycinate at night and malate during the day, but you may prefer them differently); vitamin C; potassium; DMSO gel; comfrey cream; plus others, like those mentioned in the Iodine protocol (read the whole thread before starting anything). The infrared sauna really helped with pain relief as well as circulation, couple that with cold therapy. Finally, for myself, deep tissue massage and a chiropractor seemed to help with the lingering issues.

It seems with these things your body needs time to heal, but also to not wait too long, especially if you are older.

All the best :) and let us know how you get on.
 
Sorry to hear about your knee injury, Kosma!

Even a totally ruptured ACL is not an automatic indication for surgery. It depends what you are doing with the knee. While the ACL is absolutely crucial for some sports (tennis, football, basketball etc.), it is not so important for other sports (like running, cycling etc.). On top of that, long-term results are not very clear at this stage, whether surgery can really prevent post-injury arthrosis, which is usually one of the main goal for surgery, as well as prevention of meniscal injuries. Another indication for surgery would be a persistent feeling of unstableness, even after having diligently trained up your thigh muscles.

So the two importat points, as already mentioned, are: 1) combatting inflammation, and 2) training up your leg muscles to stabilise the knee joint. Your physio should be able to advise you on the exercises required to do that. And it the future you might have to be careful with what type of sports or movements you subject your knee to. Unless you do some of the above mentioned sports, you should be fine.

BTW, have a look at Borax (Boron), which might be helpful.
 
Glad to hear the prolotherapy and physical therapy helped. When I started having some pain in my knee, I forced myself to go to a doctor and he said "oh, it's tendonitis" without even looking at it, and gave me a prescription for a painkiller. I didn't fill the RX, but instead started taking turmeric a couple of times a day. It helped to reduce the inflammation and my pain was gone in a few days.

This comes back occasionally and when it does, I take the turmeric again. The turmeric I use is just the spice type, not capsules, but it seems to work well for me. I have also used a topical arnica treatment which helps.
 
SevenFeathers said:
Glad to hear the prolotherapy and physical therapy helped. When I started having some pain in my knee, I forced myself to go to a doctor and he said "oh, it's tendonitis" without even looking at it, and gave me a prescription for a painkiller. I didn't fill the RX, but instead started taking turmeric a couple of times a day. It helped to reduce the inflammation and my pain was gone in a few days.

This comes back occasionally and when it does, I take the turmeric again. The turmeric I use is just the spice type, not capsules, but it seems to work well for me. I have also used a topical arnica treatment which helps.
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Just remember to add a little bit of pepper to the turmeric - it increases absorption.
 
Hi Kosma,

For supplement, you might want to try Glucosamine Sulphate. I usually take it when I get a knee pain and it seems to help. I hope you'll get better soon.
 
The Cs told Laura that ligament damage is often due to mineral deposits and suggested she drink pure distilled water to dissolve them. Boron deficiency stunts the body's ability to manage calcium correctly, so it's a good idea to take it.
 
I completely tore my ACL and had it reconstructed 20 years ago. I purchased an earthing sheet 2 years ago to try, in my case it reduced the inflammation in my knee and the pain/discomfort by about 80%.
 
I sprained the lateral interior a little, on both legs, at different times, i say a little because i had a rather quick recovery of a few months and may have not been bad in comparison. But thought maybe to share. One a sport injury and the second a bicycle accident.

on the first one, i was adviced the to get intra muscular injection of B complex, which is an oil looking subtance , so i was getting it in lack of awareness once a week, and physical therapy. I never checked up on it, so it is best to research if this is even advisable, that was 10 years ago, What i was reading today was that, vitamin B12 helps the body create human protein. vitamin C and colagen were also adviced but i would have to check on that. And reduce stress factors , and slowly start physical therapy, as the body permits.

On the other more recent one, i was in full ketosis for the whole time, inflamation was brought down quick, ice, having the leg upwards with maybe a piece of wood to keep blood from setting down the leg or moving helped a lot. Turmeric, and eating pork, rest. All that helped
 
casper said:
Also, have you thought about acupuncture?
Hope that helps :hug2:
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I have had remarkable results treating luxating patellas and torn cruciate ligaments in dogs and cats with electro-acupuncture. I would imagine it works equally well in humans, so definitely something to try.
 
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