Kony 2012

Seraphina

Jedi Master
I want to share this video with all of you. Maybe some of you have seen it. It's about Joseph Kony, leader of the LRA in Uganda, who kidnaps children and turns them into soldiers, and the girls into sex slaves. Many of the children in my life are rallying around this cause.

Is this part of the awakening? Maybe. Wouldn't it be awesome for people to really come together to make a positive change in our world?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc

Thoughts???
 
Hi Seraphina,

I thought the same things you thought, and saw that the topic is trending on twitter getting the attention it deserved.

However, I came across this criticism on Kony 2012 campaign that maybe we should read to gain some perspective. I don't know if this is to defame the movement but the guy who wrote it has some valid points, osit.

http://visiblechildren.tumblr.com/


KONY 2012 is the product of a group called Invisible Children, a controversial activist group and not-for-profit. They’ve released 11 films, most with an accompanying bracelet colour (KONY 2012 is fittingly red), all of which focus on Joseph Kony. When we buy merch from them, when we link to their video, when we put up posters linking to their website, we support the organization. I don’t think that’s a good thing, and I’m not alone.

Invisible Children has been condemned time and time again. As a registered not-for-profit, its finances are public. Last year, the organization spent $8,676,614. Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), with much of the rest going to staff salaries, travel and transport, and film production. This is far from ideal, and Charity Navigator rates their accountability 2/4 stars because they haven’t had their finances externally audited. But it goes way deeper than that.

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Still, Kony’s a bad guy, and he’s been around a while. Which is why the US has been involved in stopping him for years. U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) has sent multiple missions to capture or kill Kony over the years. And they’ve failed time and time again, each provoking a ferocious response and increased retaliative slaughter. The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away. If people know this and still support Invisible Children because they feel it’s the best solution based on their knowledge and research, I have no issue with that. But I don’t think most people are in that position, and that’s a problem.

Is awareness good? Yes. But these problems are highly complex, not one-dimensional and, frankly, aren’t of the nature that can be solved by postering, film-making and changing your Facebook profile picture, as hard as that is to swallow. Giving your money and public support to Invisible Children so they can spend it on supporting ill-advised violent intervention and movie #12 isn’t helping. Do I have a better answer? No, I don’t, but that doesn’t mean that you should support KONY 2012 just because it’s something. Something isn’t always better than nothing. Sometimes it’s worse.

If you want to write to your Member of Parliament or your Senator or the President or the Prime Minister, by all means, go ahead. If you want to post about Joseph Kony’s crimes on Facebook, go ahead. But let’s keep it about Joseph Kony, not KONY 2012.

Appearently, there is a controversy surrounding direct services where the Invisible Children see their video making expenses as direct service but the author doesn't. The version I read talked specifically about this aspect, but I could not locate it.

It is not that I want to criticize any movement coming out, but there seems to be some things out of place about their methods using military intervention. I thought about this watching the video but the message of peace and revolution appealed to me too much that I quickly cast the thought away. Yet it is essential to act responsibly to minimize the damage.

just my two cents, fwiw.
 
I found this...



REVENUE
Total Contributions $10,334,060
Program Service Revenue $3,423,351
Total Primary Revenue $13,757,411
Other Revenue $7,769
TOTAL REVENUE $13,765,180

EXPENSES
Program Expenses $7,163,384
Administrative Expenses $1,444,570
Fundraising Expenses $286,678
TOTAL FUNCTIONAL EXPENSES $8,894,632

Payments to Affiliates $0
Excess (or Deficit) for the year $4,870,548

Net Assets $6,584,811


I'm torn between it being another feel-good movement that gets co-opted, and it actually being a venue that people can get behind. I'd like to believe that these kids get behind this and actually make a difference, then they can see the power they have to change the world when they get together. Wishful thinking maybe. As jaded as I've become over the years, I still have some (albeit, very little) hope for people to wake up and work together.
 
I think this campaign shows us people are emphatic and they want to do something about the world. The problem is, there are not legitamate organisations with knowledge and good will to guide them and solve real issues. We should not despair, because as you said, this raise in awareness may lead to other changes, and people go beyond this. After all C's said 2012 will be the year of revolution! :)
 
Seen this one today doing the rounds on YouTube and FB and share the same view as you guys here. It seems a lack of knowledge about poneregienic influences would prevent movements like this and others like it to really achieve something.

Still it's nice to see human beings en mass still have empathy! :)
 
I've just finished watching this video approx. 1 hour ago from now. I have to admit that I am highly skeptical of its proposals. Yes, on the surface it appears it's all for a good cause, nevertheless I won't sign their pledge nor will I donate money (not that I have much anyway, I'm just another wage slave) until I know exactly what it is that I am signing and/or donating my money for and to whom.

I just watched, IMO, a good video made by some guy who is also encouraging folks to research this thing more before they go blindly doing what many people have already done, that is: doing exactly what the video instructed them to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=uAHO9WhZtEs

the visible problem with invisible children
2 11 2006

EDIT ON MARCH 7, 2012: This post was originally written in 2006. Please consider that as you read it and as you comment that it has been over 5 years since I wrote my thoughts here. I personally still have the same concerns about IC that I did when I posted this and have chosen not to contribute to their cause. However, Uganda has held a very special place in my heart. When I wrote this article, I supported and I continue to support relief efforts in Uganda through the work of Steve Hoyt at Engineering Ministries International (eMi), an organization with a 4 star rating from Charity Navigator. If you’d like, you can support Steve’s work in Uganda here: https://emisecure.org/donate.html and to learn more about the work that eMi does in Uganda visit http://emiea.org/index.html.

Thanks for continuing to be a part of this important conversation.

James

Original Post:

Invisible Children (IC) swept the university campuses of America last year. The group wanted to mobilize college students to be aware of what happened in Uganda in recent years, the atrocious acts of Joseph Kony and his rebel group, the Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA). I heard about Invisible Children for the first time when I was researching Uganda. I was immediately fascinated by their website. It’s very well done, but I noticed one thing. It lacked real information. If you haven’t seen the film or know nothing about their purpose, let me catch you up to speed with my version. Three clueless college kids head to Sudan with no plans and no idea about what they’re going to find. They’re looking for a “story”. They leave Sudan and make their way into Uganda. They find some bad stuff going on there. So they made a MTV-esque DVD about what was happening there. They wanted to draw attention to what they found.

So far, this sounds good. However, there is a major, major problem. I’m going to compare what IC is doing to an analogy that I thought of this past summer when I was Uganda thinking about this issue. Imagine that today you heard about what happened in NYC and Washington DC on September 11, 2001 for the first time. You were shown a video of footage from that day. You saw the planes hit the towers, you heard President Bush’s address, you saw the Pentagon wreckage, you watch in horror as you see people plunge to their death, jumping from the burning towers. Now imagine that you are inspired by this disaster. You want to something to help. What if you went to NYC today, expecting to see piles of rubble to clean up? What if you went, expecting that there would be thousands of people in the streets crying, looking for loved ones? But what would happen when you arrived and discovered that there was none of this, but a whole host of other problems?

And back to Uganda. Uganda is no longer experiencing violence from the LRA. Yes, I said it. It’s an uncomfortable truth, but it is a truth. For about the last year, since before IC hit the scene, Kony and his troops have been pushed into Congo, into the Garamba National Forest there. He’s sick, starving, and on his last legs. For the first time, Uganda is in the middle of real peace talks and the rebels have laid down their arms and are assembling to make peace. Why? This is happening because Joseph Kony was defeated. The Uganda People’s Defense Force (UPDF) has beaten them back and Kony was sitting in Congo starving to death. Since March 2002, the UPDF has been allowed to carry out raids against the LRA into Southern Sudan and has even crossed into Congo, to the distress of most of the African community. Nonetheless, Operation Iron Fist, as this military offensive was called, has freed many child soldiers and sex slaves and brought them back to Uganda. The rebels again became very violent in 2003, but since 2004, the Ugandan government has been repeatedly beating the rebels and weakening them. Uganda is no longer allowed to enter Sudan or Congo to fight the LRA.

Invisible Children was founded in 2004, with the film crew filming in Uganda in 2003. Watching Invisible Children is watching old news. Will watching it alert you to what has occurred in Uganda? Yes, but it will not let you know what is happening there today.

Invisible Children is too late. It has taught us that MTV type media can get university students interested in a world crisis, the problem is it took too much time. Night commuting, outlined as one of the major problems in northern Uganda by the film, is practically non-existent now. Why? Peace is coming to the region. According to UN reports, children who still are commuting at night are not doing it because of safety concerns, but because they want to enjoy the amenities that NGO’s are offering in the towns, like Gulu, Kitgum, and Lira. At the peak of the commuting, there were between 30,000 and 40,000 children commuting. Now, estimates are below 10,000.

The scars of the 20 year conflict are everywhere in northern Uganda. I walked through internally displaced person (IDP) camps. I smelled, I listened, I saw, I touched, I tasted. I experienced Uganda. I saw people whose lives had been radically changed. I placed my hands on a woman whose lips had been cut off by the LRA. I walked with children whose parents had been killed. I sat on the foundation of a hut burned down by the LRA. I talked with people whose relatives had been abducted. I walked over land guarded by the UPDF. The landscape, the people, and the country itself has an immense burden to deal with.

Uganda has problems today. Their government is ridden with corruption. There are people still living in fear in IDP camps, afraid that violence will again return to their land. The education system is inadequate and many do not have the chance to go to school. For those who do work their way through the school system, there is a good chance that there will not be a job for them when they get even a university degree. Why doesn’t anyone want to do something about these problems? Why will thousands of people participate in IC’s Global Night Commute but not take the time to actually find out what is going on in Uganda today?

There have been many inspired to do more than just watch a DVD and sleep downtown for a night. However, that’s where we run into another problem. This summer, IC had a bunch of college students in northern Uganda wasting time and money. There were almost 30 people who were in Uganda this summer connected with IC and even more who were inspired to change the world and fly around it. That also sounds somewhat heart warming. Self centered American kids are flying around the world to change it. The catch is they don’t know what they are doing or where they are going. They are blindly making a problem worse by throwing thousands of dollars at something they don’t understand.

When I traveled into Southern Sudan, you could sense something was different there. There is a greedy spirit there that you can feel. Foreign aid had ruined South Sudan. People do not want to work, they want handouts. An entire generation has been cared for by the UN and other NGO’s. They are fed, clothed, protected, and sent to school without having to do anything. I walked through the market there and saw UNICEF tarps and blankets for sale. I could also buy Samaritan’s Purse shoe-boxes, filled with all sorts of American goodies. I thought back how I thought it was a good idea for me to send a shoebox filled with soap, toothpaste, bouncy balls, and a washcloth to a faraway land. What I realize now is that sending things, whether money, objects, or people to a place that I have no information on is a bad idea.

The problems that Uganda faces today cannot be fixed by hundreds of uneducated Westerners going there to “help”. As you read this article, think about how much you really know about the political situations in Uganda and throughout Africa that contribute to long lasting problems.

Africa as a whole needs to break free from foreign aid. Almost half of Uganda’s yearly budget is made up of foreign aid. I think that many of Uganda’s problems stem from its reliance on foreign support. If you want to read more on that, check out a Ugandan journalist named Andrew Mwenda. The aid to African nations is increasing the corruption there and encouraging these nations to continue this dependence on foreign nations and it does not encourage them to become totally self sufficient. When asked what rich nations should do to help Africa, Mwenda said,

So what is the solution? I’ve now written the first negative article I can find about Invisible Children. I also have suggested that we should think about cutting foreign aid and debt relief to African nations.

If you’ve seen the old news that Uganda has to offer and are disturbed, I encourage you to do some research and find out what is really going on in Uganda. I spent months before I went to Uganda researching the country. I talked to many people on the phone or with Skype, I emailed countless others, I read books, I monitored the news. If you want to find out what the situation is really like, find out. Don’t blindly fly yourself to a developing country like a Western idiot. I would also suggest finding out more about organizations that you support that work in foreign countries. Find out what their relationships are like with the local people and find out how they are grooming local people to take over their group. No aid organization should plan to be somewhere forever. If they do, they are not focused on solving the problem they are there to address.

Do not be fooled by slick video editing. Sleeping outside in downtown Pittsburgh will not help anyone who is still night commuting in northern Uganda. Perhaps you are now aware that there is a problem, perhaps you know that there is more to this world than just your country, your state, and your little hometown. What you may not know is that the US government is not going to get involved if it doesn’t benefit the American people. Remember Rwanda? It is up to you to figure out how to deal with this knowledge and the knowledge that your warm and fuzzy thoughts are not going to be the solution to this.

As of today, Uganda is still in a tedious peace process with the LRA, with both sides accusing each other of violating peace agreements. The good news is that they are still in the peace process and they’re doing it without the help of a foreign country that will attempt to benefit from the talks. Instead, using Rick Machar and South Sudan is helping to build ties with all those in that region. The LRA and the UPDF have now signed a second peace accord and hopefully this one will result in successful peace.

As I have written this over the past couple of months, I’m disappointed that I cannot offer a real solution to this problem. I wish that I had the answers for Uganda and those of you who are interested in doing something to help the people there. Unfortunately, I feel that I have done little more than to highlight problems there and then problems with our response to their problems. I learned so much while I was there, but I still have a lot that I can learn.

http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/
 
Biomiast said:
[...] Only 32% went to direct services (page 6), [...]

The issue with taking out a man who uses a child army is that his bodyguards are children. Any effort to capture or kill him will almost certainly result in many children’s deaths, an impact that needs to be minimized as much as possible. Each attempt brings more retaliation. And yet Invisible Children supports military intervention. Kony has been involved in peace talks in the past, which have fallen through. But Invisible Children is now focusing on military intervention.

Military intervention may or may not be the right idea, but people supporting KONY 2012 probably don’t realize they’re supporting the Ugandan military who are themselves raping and looting away.

Some pretty good points. It makes me feel a bit suspicious that the video did not address those things. Mostly it was all about evoking emotions, without much information on the whole thing. I do like the idea of people power, but sometimes anger and sadness can make us do/support things which we'll regret afterwards, like what if the idea of having forces to capture Kony will end up with killing those kidnapped children? Isn't the purpose to get the children back - alive? Like the writer above said, it's a complex issue and all possibilities should atleast be considered and thought about.

The good thing is that he (the filmmaker) managed to create schools there with his group, and I wish the focus would also be more on creating better protective homes there, opening more schools, spreading the word about the bad Uganda militants and the corrupted government etc.

His video did move me though, it makes me really sad and angry to know that such things happen, and I'm glad that some people make us aware of that. But there's a lot more to it than that, as in, corrupted government and the like (which wasn't really mentioned). Plus, I think that it's important to mention that evil exists everywhere, not only in foreign countries, but around us as well - and that we should not forget that.

'Cause watching this video gave me the idea that danger is ''out there'' and ''not here'', which is a pretty dangerous idea. The filmmaker said, paraphrasing: ''If my son went through the things those kids went through, the whole US media would be on it, but there (Uganda) it won't'', well, think about the many, and I mean many, awful things that have happened in the US, which didn't make the media - on purpose that is. And when it does, it gets all twisted, that it isn't even close to the truth anymore! What about that?
 
'Cause watching this video gave me the idea that danger is ''out there'' and ''not here'', which is a pretty dangerous idea. The filmmaker said, paraphrasing: ''If my son went through the things those kids went through, the whole US media would be on it, but there (Uganda) it won't'', well, think about the many, and I mean many, awful things that have happened in the US, which didn't make the media - on purpose that is. And when it does, it gets all twisted, that it isn't even close to the truth anymore! What about that?

I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. While Kony IS a psychopath, more successful psychopaths are Wall street bankers and politicians. The guy seems to be clueless as to what's going on in U.S. And there was a part at the beginning, he said: "If this would have happened in U.S., it would be on the cover of Newsweek." Yeah, right. :whistle:
 
Biomiast said:
'Cause watching this video gave me the idea that danger is ''out there'' and ''not here'', which is a pretty dangerous idea. The filmmaker said, paraphrasing: ''If my son went through the things those kids went through, the whole US media would be on it, but there (Uganda) it won't'', well, think about the many, and I mean many, awful things that have happened in the US, which didn't make the media - on purpose that is. And when it does, it gets all twisted, that it isn't even close to the truth anymore! What about that?

I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. While Kony IS a psychopath, more successful psychopaths are Wall street bankers and politicians. The guy seems to be clueless as to what's going on in U.S. And there was a part at the beginning, he said: "If this would have happened in U.S., it would be on the cover of Newsweek." Yeah, right. :whistle:

Exactly! :rolleyes:
 
Apparently there's "Kony Kits" available on the invisible children website.

_www.invisiblechildrenstore.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/kony-kit

"People well think you're an advocate of awesome." :rolleyes: Trying to rally lots of youth support for issues that matter is one thing, but something tells me there's more to the story.

kit_base.jpg


This bipartisan angle makes me anxious about the political motivations. It appears invisible children is trying to make this an election issue, even though it can be taken more or less for granted that the parties already agree on invading more counties.

Are they trying to just bolster youth support for further military interventions abroad? Why is this coming to a head now, if this has been in the media for years? Or is this some card the PTB are "playing" now, as it were?
 
I watched most of the video, I stopped once I saw that they were trying to (and then did) get military US government support. It does seem that those that started the group had the best of intentions, however I think it plays right into PTB's hands. It's similar to the standard CIA NGO operation, except the support, admin and expenses all have arisen (at least initially) from a public support base. Since the group has already done such a good job of "capturing the hearts of many", I see no reason for the government to co-opt. As long as they're showing tentative interest with the prospect of possibly "taking action", the group (or more generally, the "cause") will basically serve as a free ticket for some nefarious objective in the future and in the mean time they look not-so-bad to those that have been so taken in emotionally by the motivation to "save children in Africa" that they forget/don't realize what's happening to the children around them.

Just my take on it.
 
Here is an interesting post from someone on facebook...

"The whole thing is so fishy to me. Since when is US military intervention such an awesome thing? Why after 11 videos has this one gone insanely viral in 3 days. Why has it affected people who generally don't give a shit about anyone but themselves? If this guy was #1 on a list of the worst people in the world, don't you think that the people who have the power to do something about it have already been trying? And they have, he's alluded them for years. Why do I get the feeling this is just their new boogeyman? Why does it seam super convenient to the powers that be if he's not actually in Uganda? Why does that seam like a very easy way to prolong a conflict in Uganda who just discovered that they have a ton of oil. Why was I super skeptical before watching that video, but immediately after watching it all in until a friend talked some sense in to me? Why has the comment he made about it's probably mind control stuck in my head ever since he made it? Who are those 12 lawmakers are why are they the one's that we want to target? Might they be just the perfect 12 who are aligned with the oil industry?"

It is strange how many of my "friends" on facebook have shared this video, "friends" who normally only post about what they're having for tea or how drunk they were at the weekend. If the US military were to intervene then this would please a lot of KONY 2012 supporters. It kind of reminds me of the saying, "the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince people that he didn't exist". Is this an example of how social media can be used by government to wage war?
 
I wrote something on it here

http://joequinn.net/2012/03/08/the-kony-2012-delusion/

The only question I have is whether or not there is any benefit in it in terms of, as someone said, giving people the idea that they can and should try to call evil-doers to account. The political angle however is a dead-end. These people are expecting US politicians, who presided over the murder of 1.5 million Iraqi and Afghan civilians for their resources, to care about people in Africa who are being murdered for the same reasons by, more or less the same people.
 
Perceval said:
I wrote something on it here

http://joequinn.net/2012/03/08/the-kony-2012-delusion/

The only question I have is whether or not there is any benefit in it in terms of, as someone said, giving people the idea that they can and should try to call evil-doers to account. The political angle however is a dead-end. These people are expecting US politicians, who presided over the murder of 1.5 million Iraqi and Afghan civilians for their resources, to care about people in Africa who are being murdered for the same reasons by, more or less the same people.

Great blog post, Perceval. Thanks for sharing. I couldn't agree more on this:

Joe's blog said:
If you really want to make this world a better place, let’s start ‘Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Obama etc., 2012′. Let’s make them famous for their massive war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, for the murder of up to 2 million Iraqi and Afghan civilians, and for the the children who continue, to this day, to be blown to pieces by US soldiers and US ‘drone’ aircraft under the Imperial war of aggression known as the ‘war on terror’.
 
Here's some more geopolitical context:

https://www.sott.net/articles/show/242657-Strings-attached-US-in-Uganda
 
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