learning to fly and raising children

[the piper123]

Hello my name is Tim Piper, I have just begun to read the wave series again after returning from a 4 year pilgrimage. I began searching for answers in 2001 and soon after the colapse of my life that some would term as very sucsessful was an avalanche of misfortune(learning). I felt an overwhelming need or urge that I was supossed to be doing something else with my life other than obtaining material things. I had surrounded myself with those of like mind and when I chose to go a different way...the "petty tyrants" were overwhelming to say the least.

The ticks and leaches I had chose to surround myself (or maybe they were there to keep me in the illussion?Just because you're paraniod, doesn't mean nobody's out to get you)with dug in deep and I began to see exactly who I did not want to become. I started reading the wave series and interacting in the forum in 2002 and found many of the same truths I myself had learned through expierience. The more I read and learned, the worse the tyrants got it seemed and culminated with a suicide note from my 14 year old daughter. As a single father, raising a little girl on my own(doing what I was supposed to do, don't need an award), I did what any loving parent who's life was an illussion would do. I sold everything(that was left), bought a motor home and went on a pilgrimage with my daughter.

Yes I ran away and abridged my daughters free will to stay in school with her friends and get caught into the same traps as I did. Whether right or wrong, the choice at the time seemed to be the only or best option for me...very sts I know, but then again facing petty tyrants with creative thinking created a vehicle to not only took away thier power over me, it also opened a line of communication with my daughter and got her away from the same tyrants. It's not that new problems or learning enviroments did not manifest, they did of course. But our (I should say my)sense of freedom from material anchors seemed to make it a lot easier to deal with each and give each it's due.

This choice is something that I will cherish forever as my daughter is now a happy well adjusted young lady that has learned from my mistakes and see's the world thru many of the truths I have found here on this site and is prepared enoughe to face this reality with eyes enoughe to search for her own truths and knowledge enoughe to make good choices.
I truly look foward to reading everything else here on the site and partaking in dialogs in the forums. Not only to protect myself with knowledge but also be there with possible answers for my daughter as she now comes to me on a regular basis searching for knowledge to protect herself.

I just wanted to reintroduce myself to the group and thought this was a good area to do so. I also want to say thanks to the hard work and dedication put forth to bring so much inspiring information together. Laura, you are an incredible vehicle for disecting truths, thank you. What in your knowledge or as the C's would percieve child raising tecniuqes described above....basicly where in this infinante amount of knowledge can information regarding raising children and raising your own soul at the same time. I seem to think the better I get at raising myself the better I get at being a good father but it's a catch 22 as the time you spend working on yourself often takes away precious time from ones children(TIME TIME TIME...I know an illussion). Any thoughts would be appriciated because I have many friends that come to me for counsil regarding child rearing who cannot just check out as I did.
Well I guess that's it for now, it's nice to be back:)
tim

 

[Ruth]

Yes I ran away and abridged my daughters free will to stay in school with her friends and get caught into the same traps as I did. Whether right or wrong, the choice at the time seemed to be the only or best option for me...very sts I know,

Hi Tim, I think you made the right choice, which provided both you and your daughter with new opportunites and some new perspectives.

Not everybody has the courage to do what you did and sometimes it is because they are caught in an illusion of other people's expectations of them. But when they do find the courage to change their circumstances often the rewards for such a 'sacrifice' can be very substantial and sometimes quite unusal.

I wish more people had the courage to change things like you did. It would make them feel more free and less restricted.

 

[Marie]

I seem to think the better I get at raising myself the better I get at being a good father but it's a catch 22 as the time you spend working on yourself often takes away precious time from ones children(TIME TIME TIME...I know an illussion).

May I suggest taking time to work on yourself WITH your kid? See one thing that is good about our close family members is that they know us well, though of course they have their own filters and biases. For example since your daughter has known you well for a long time, maybe if you ask her she might tell you about recurring behavior or thought patterns that you may not have noticed in yourself, but that from her perspective are evident. I know several family members have helped me like that, by adding perspective.

Also sometimes two people will read or hear the same words, but understand them in completely different ways; comparing different interpretations may lead to better understanding; plus I am sure that if you look for Work-related family activities you might find quite a few.

And welcome to the forum!

 

[the piper123]

Hi Ruth,
You are correct in that rewards have been bestowed upon me in un
> believable ways...I picked up a brush and started painting and I can
> paint....it's like I have done it all my life. Or in another life?
> It's not the only reward but the strangest. I don't just paint
> landscapes and things but real deep impressions of inner feelings and
> metephysical or dreamlike inspirations that come from somewhere else
> it seems.
> The other benifits or rewards from doing such a thing has resulted in
> a peacfuly nature within myself...no longer controlled by emotions I
> now find myself aware as I'm using any given emotion...very difficult
> to explain but the most benificial it seems for now.
> Thank you for the response to my post. I am writing you here because
> I really don't understand how a forum works, like should I have
> reposted this message under yours and how did you pull an except from
> my post. I really would like to interact with the group but don't
> quite follow the ediquite. Any suggestions would be appriciated.
> thanks,
> tim

 

[the piper123]

Hi Marie,
Yes, I agree that taking time to work WITH your kid is the only way to do it. I also agree with your other comments as well. This worked extreamly well for me with my daughter on our pilgrimage....and to be honest most of the time she spent picking me apart showing me things about myself that might be termed undisirable. Then and only then did communication lines become opened and remain open so that we can bounce truths off of one another.

My question, although poorly fraised was for other friends of mine (deeply entrenched behind the vail of Christianity)who have children going into thier teens. These friends are pulling thier hair out looking for answers and eventually comming to me..."how did you do it, Jade is an amazing young lady". When I tell them what I have done or point them to this site to possibly find some truths....maybe they arnt ready to "see" cause I usually end up being crazy in thier eyes. This is also a great way to ward off vampires by the way....as soon as you bring em into the light they disappear. But for the folks that want to know more, it kind of becomes a great way to help with diserning who I want to associate with.



So basicly it's hard for me to offer any sound advice to those that would hear because they are not able to take the drastic steps I did or I should say not willing to take them cause learning with your children insted of teaching them or fixing them worked for me to this point.

Maybe thats the pearl of advice I should be offering....get down off your podium, and humbly learn about yourself from your children so that you can learn together. That's at least better than "good luck were all counting on you" which was going to become my standard answer till now