List of Close encounters

[celtic]

here is a list of close encounters and ufo sittings from 2005 on down it is quite interesting but still I
am always Skeptical here it is.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/CaseView.asp?section=Encounter&offset=0

 

[Zorpho]

With so many bogus claims of UFO videos we're just wasting our time trying to prove which is real and which isn't.
The reality is that there is an extraterrestrial presence on our planet, there are thousands of de-classified government documents that support their existence.
Then we have the hundreds of statements by people from within the military as well as the tens of thousands of verified reports from civilians who have been abducted many of which have passed lie detector tests and/or been evaluated by hypnotherapy.
The debunkers claim otherwise but they are dead wrong, testaments by so many people cannot be discounted.
We need to get focused and steer our energies towards the US government and the military industrial empire that keeps it in the dark about these matters.
They have documents that will prove conclusively that the ETs are here, we must push them until they disclose the truth.

 

[truth seeker]

With so many bogus claims of UFO videos we're just wasting our time trying to prove which is real and which isn't.
The reality is that there is an extraterrestrial presence on our planet, there are thousands of de-classified government documents that support their existence.
Then we have the hundreds of statements by people from within the military as well as the tens of thousands of verified reports from civilians who have been abducted many of which have passed lie detector tests and/or been evaluated by hypnotherapy.
The debunkers claim otherwise but they are dead wrong, testaments by so many people cannot be discounted.
We need to get focused and steer our energies towards the US government and the military industrial empire that keeps it in the dark about these matters.
They have documents that will prove conclusively that the ETs are here, we must push them until they disclose the truth.

Let's say for arguments sake that governments and the military industrial empire disclose information. How will people know that what they are being told is the truth? Isn't it like knowing someone who has lied to you all your life now saying that they are telling you the truth? How do you know that you can trust what is being said is the entire truth and not just another lie or bits of truth and lies? Also, what then? What is the result other than those who have experienced this being able to say they were right?

Would it perhaps not be more fruitful for everyone concerned if the focus was not on trusting people who have proved themselves liars time and time again to tell the truth but instead focus on exposing those who have kept secret their psychopathic machinations in order to control the masses?

 

[Ca.]

With so many bogus claims of UFO videos we're just wasting our time trying to prove which is real and which isn't.
The reality is that there is an extraterrestrial presence on our planet, there are thousands of de-classified government documents that support their existence.
Then we have the hundreds of statements by people from within the military as well as the tens of thousands of verified reports from civilians who have been abducted many of which have passed lie detector tests and/or been evaluated by hypnotherapy.
The debunkers claim otherwise but they are dead wrong, testaments by so many people cannot be discounted.
We need to get focused and steer our energies towards the US government and the military industrial empire that keeps it in the dark about these matters.
They have documents that will prove conclusively that the ETs are here, we must push them until they disclose the truth.

Let's say for arguments sake that governments and the military industrial empire disclose information. How will people know that what they are being told is the truth? Isn't it like knowing someone who has lied to you all your life now saying that they are telling you the truth? How do you know that you can trust what is being said is the entire truth and not just another lie or bits of truth and lies? Also, what then? What is the result other than those who have experienced this being able to say they were right?

Would it perhaps not be more fruitful for everyone concerned if the focus was not on trusting people who have proved themselves liars time and time again to tell the truth but instead focus on exposing those who have kept secret their psychopathic machinations in order to control the masses?

truth seekers and Zorpho post reminded me of these 2 session's, regarding the continuing release of information and denial of what the general public is witnessing by the PTB. Even the you tube is loaded with the attempts of hiding the truth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn3IvevT7QA&feature=related

November 19, 1994

Q: (L) Was the Carp, Ontario UFO landing a real UFO landing?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who was involved in that?
A: Grays.
Q: (L) Anyone else?
A: No, but government wants to use it as in "opportunity knocks." UFO per se was not staged. Guardian story was.
Q: (L) Was the UFO actually flown by aliens?
A: Yes. Government has miles of UFO footage in its possession. May use at its discretion.
Q: (T) What does it mean that the Guardian story was staged. How? Is the video tape real?
A: Used tape to concoct story around.
Q: (T) Did the individual calling himself Guardian actually film that?
A: No.
Q: (T) Who filmed it?
A: Military.
Q: (T) How did they know to be there in the middle of Ontario Canada to film that landing?
A: Landing took place near where regiment of NATO reservists were training.
Q: (T) Did it take place where they said it did?
A: Near.
Q: (T) Was the woman in the farmhouse part of the plot?
A: Saw UFO. Was part of "flap".
Q: (T) Was the UFO experience that the woman in the farmhouse had, was that the same event on the Guardian tape?
A: No. But similar.
Q: (T) So we have a woman who saw a UFO landing, had one that they had on tape, and when she came forward to talk about her sighting, they decided to use the footage to corroborate her story, is that correct?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Did the woman know about the NATO maneuvers?
A: No.
Q: (T) Were the NATO maneuvers near where she was?
A: Yes. All major military exercises are plagued by UFOs.
Q: (T) Is the government planning to stage an invasion by aliens to cause the populace of the world to go into such a fear state that they will accept total control and domination?
A: Open. But if so, will "flop".
Q: (T) Why?
A: Many reasons: 1. Visual effects will be inadequate and will have "glitches". 2. Real invasion may take place first. 3. Other events may intercede.
Q: (T) Such as what?
A: Earth changes.
Q: (T) Am I correct in assuming that some of these hot-shot, big-wig guys in the government who have plans for taking over the whole world and making everything all happy and hunky-dory with them in charge, are just simply not in synch with the fact that there are some definite earth changes on the agenda? Are they missing something here?
A: Close. They are aware but in denial.
Q: (T) Are these earth changes going to occur prior to the arrival of the cometary cluster?
A: No. But "time" frame is, as of yet, undetermined.
Q: (T) Am I correct in saying that if they knew what was really going to happen that they would still continue with their stupid little plans to make money and try to control the world?
A: Yes. Greed is a sickness.
Q: (T) Is there such a thing as "alternative three" the plan to take all the brains off the planet?
A: No.
Q: (T) Is that more disinformation?
A: Yes. So is Mars landing but not Mars monuments.
Q: (TL) Who made the monuments on Mars?
A: Atlanteans.
Q: (T) So, the Atlanteans had inter-planetary ability?
A: Yes. With ease. Atlantean technology makes yours look like the Neanderthal era.
Q: (T) Who created the structures on the moon that Richard Hoagland has discovered?
A: Atlanteans.
Q: (T) What did they use these structures for?
A: Energy transfer points for crystalline power/symbolism as in monuments or statuary.
Q: (T) What statuary are you referring to?
A: Example is face.
Q: (T) What power did these crystals gather?
A: Sun.

With so many bogus claims of UFO videos we're just wasting our time trying to prove which is real and which isn't.
The reality is that there is an extraterrestrial presence on our planet, there are thousands of de-classified government documents that support their existence.
Then we have the hundreds of statements by people from within the military as well as the tens of thousands of verified reports from civilians who have been abducted many of which have passed lie detector tests and/or been evaluated by hypnotherapy.
The debunkers claim otherwise but they are dead wrong, testaments by so many people cannot be discounted.
We need to get focused and steer our energies towards the US government and the military industrial empire that keeps it in the dark about these matters.
They have documents that will prove conclusively that the ETs are here, we must push them until they disclose the truth.

May 27, 2000

Q: (L) Okay, that takes care of my short questions. Now, we have a problem here with Roswell.
I just finished reading Kal Korff's book "Roswell: What they don't want you to know," and it is
pretty much a bashing expose of lies and confusions spread, supposedly, by the many witnesses
who have come forward over the years. He takes Jesse Marcel apart, he takes the fireman's
daughter's story apart; he rips the undertaker's story to pieces; he takes Phil Corso's story apart;
you name it, he bashes it to bits. Pretty effectively, too, in my opinion. He seems to have located
the origin of the "little sticks" with hieroglyphics on them" seen by several of the so-called
witnesses. This is a SERIOUS problem with this whole story. The problem is that, despite the
fact that all the stories have been dissected by this guy so effectively, there ARE things he cannot
account for, and explanations that he makes that simply don't fit his thesis. On the one hand, he
claims that the Roswell base people instituted a cover up of a top secret balloon project, and on
the other hand, he says that the Roswell base did not KNOW about the top secret balloon project
because it was so secret! That is completely irreconcilable. Then he quotes a general's written
statement that something WAS going on that had something to do with alien interactions, and
dismisses this signed statement as "hearsay." The thing that occurs to me is that a) either we
have somebody going back and forth in time, tweaking the facts, such as Marcel's military
records and such things including any records of the nurse that the undertaker claims to have
talked to, or b) we have something that did happen and either they went back in time to set a
situation up so that people would start remembering something OTHER than what happened, so
as to cover up the real event with more or less "false memories" that could be not stand scrutiny;
or c) they are just feeding disinformation through all of these people, and have produced a whole
scenario with all kinds of witnesses and weird stuff to cover up something that happened. Could
you comment on this? You have already said that the actual crash did not occur at Roswell that it
occurred on the Plains of San Augustin...
A: Try scenario 3.
Q: (L) So, they are feeding disinformation through all the so-called "Roswell witnesses."
A: Close.
Q: (L) To cover up something that really did happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And they are feeding the disinformation through the people so that they will come out with
this whole story, make all this big splash, so that it can THEN be proven false, so that everybody
will think that the whole thing was a crock of kaflooey. Is that it?
A: Not quite. Confusing stories and fabrications are used to muddy the waters in anticipation of
future disclosures. And beware of authors who cast one stone and hit multiple targets. As with
any conspiratorial mystery, keep focused on the earliest entries in the evidentiary train, i.e.
"RAAF recovers flying disk in Roswell region."
Q: (L) Oh, the newspaper headlines. Yes. Hmmmm... T*** was saying that he thought the
Roswell business was a cover-up for space-time travel by some secret U.S. group.
A: No.
Q: (L) So, the other information you have already given on Roswell still stands. Is there any
other comments you want to add to this information at this time?
A: Roswell did involve evidence of non-human intelligence.
Q: (L) I just can't understand some things. When these researchers get out there and they start
digging into things, and this happens over and over again, they don't dig deep enough...
A: Kennedy was assassinated by every one... according to the myriad researchers, so called.
Q: (L) So true. You read one "carefully researched" book, and there is one candidate for the
assassin. You read another "carefully researched" book and there is another candidate. By the
time you get done reading all the books, everybody in the country is implicated! At the very
least, everyone present in Dealey Plaza had the opportunity. (F) They keep on searching. But,
if you go back to the very beginning, that is where the clues are. Right away, there were reports
of shooters on the "grassy knoll." The very early evidence gathered from those present was
completely ignored and washed away as "irrelevant" or "misperception." (B) There were people
ducking and diving for cover because of their awareness of the source of the bullets! (L) Yes,
but all that is just brushed away as panic or whatever because, of course, Oswald did it! And,
handily, Oswald gets blown away by Jack Ruby so he can never talk, for sure. (F) And Jack
Ruby died of cancer without talking to anyone except Dorothy Kilgallen, who then decided that it
was the best time to commit suicide, right after interviewing Jack Ruby... naturally, before she
ever wrote a word about it. (L) Is there any trail we could follow that would enable us to obtain a
more definite indication of what really DID go on in the Roswell case?
A: There is no "proof" or evidence unless the perceiver is willing

 

[celtic]

Let's say for arguments sake that governments and the military industrial empire disclose information. How will people know that what they are being told is the truth? Isn't it like knowing someone who has lied to you all your life now saying that they are telling you the truth? How do you know that you can trust what is being said is the entire truth and not just another lie or bits of truth and lies? Also, what then? What is the result other than those who have experienced this being able to say they were right?

Would it perhaps not be more fruitful for everyone concerned if the focus was not on trusting people who have proved themselves liars time and time again to tell the truth but instead focus on exposing those who have kept secret their psychopathic machinations in order to control the masses?

You have a point truth seeker the government obviously continues to lie if not that wrap truth with lies. We should not rely on the government for disclosure because it would necessarily be disinfo. But with searching the declassified ufo files its possible to dig through the noise a little bit but there you probably not going to get the whole truth either. Thanks for the post c.a. it could be possible that the government may want a future disclosure that is truth of course and only truth.

Not quite. Confusing stories and fabrications are used to muddy the waters in anticipation of future disclosures.