Looking for Eric

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Looking for Eric is a 2009 Ken Loach film set in Manchester UK. Now, we all know that psychopaths figure very, very prominently in thousands of movies, TV shows, novels, and real life, etc., but never seem to be identified for what they are. We don't learn what psychopaths actually are. That's why I was so surprised that this film did actually go there for a bit. It's not really the focus of the story, so I wasn't expecting it all. It actually did reveal a bit of truth about psychopaths.

At first, it seemed like a depressing story of a tortured, middle-aged, working-class, twice-divorced man called Eric living with two unruly, undisciplined teen-aged sons who don't respect him a whit. He's on the edge of a breakdown, and his only outlet is football fandom. His only saving grace are his co-worker and football-fan pub buddies who genuinely seem to care about him, though he takes them for granted.

As a lark, the men try out a visualization exercise in which they're supposed to connect with a personal hero. Eric's is famously philosophical football legend Eric Cantona. Thereafter, the specter of Cantona mysteriously appears in Eric's room while he's at a low point and begins to advise him about how to improve his life. This fantastical aspect persists throughout the rest of the film.

SEMI-SPOILER ALERT - can't be avoided if I'm to explain how this has to do with an awakening about psychopaths.

Anyway, the point: one of Eric's ne'er-do-well sons falls into the outer orbit of a local psychopath, recently out of jail and enriching himself via his tried-and-true gangster antics. Long story short, he coerces the kid (with violence and threats to harm family) into harboring a handgun so that he can use it when he wants but won't be caught with it -- quite a big deal in the UK. He then proceeds to use it to shoot people. Eric finds the gun in his son's room and finally gets the nerve to confront the kid. Eric is shocked and tells the kid to get out of this situation with the psycho, but the kid insists that you cannot reason with the guy, that "he's not like you or your friends. He just doesn't care." He feels trapped.

Not quite getting it, Eric decides to confront the psycho, who promptly uses frightening intimidation tactics to get Eric to tow the line and keep hiding the gun in his house, and video-records the whole, humiliating, intimidation sequence for YouTube. Eric is cowed and continues to harbor this destructive secret, despite the potential consequences for his family. He feels trapped. Going to the police would mean a minimum 5-year sentence for his son. After a shooting, the police get wind that the psycho may've been the shooter but can't get proof. Interestingly, their method of investigating the man's acquaintances was shown. It was a tremendously scary SWAT raid on Eric's house during which his entire family was arrested. They didn't find the gun, though, which was still in the house.

Eric's hero, Cantona, materializes to consult, tells Eric that there are always alternatives and reminds him that he has a network, his friends, his "teammates." Eric can't summon the guts -- he's too ashamed -- "What am I supposed to tell them? Hey, oh by the way, my lad's minding a gun for the local psychopath who shoots people for laughing at the color of his shoes?!" Cantona says Eric must trust his friends. So, with nowhere else to turn, he finally does tell them. Sure enough, they want to help. One of the guys promptly rushes in with a book about psychopaths and summarizes his research for the others, "Psychos," he says, slamming down the book, "they don't give a flying [bleep]! You can't negotiate with them. You can't reason with them. The only thing you can do is to [bleep] them up, scare the {bleep] out of them. You've gotta make them believe that this is not [bleeping] worth it."

I won't spoil the very end, but, basically, the group stands together and acts together to deal with the situation without doing anything to physically harm the psycho. The solution they choose is not one I'd recommend, certainly not ideal, and probably serves mainly to make an exciting and emotional ending to the story. Now, this ending could certainly be considered to be a disinformational twist about psychopaths. I'm not sure you simply have to scare them -- but it could have been analagous to something like "exposing them," which they do seem to fear.
 
Wow! Sounds interesting. Will have to locate it for viewing.

Thanks for the movie tip, PopHistorian.
 
I was just researching Loach, and found that he is very politically active in the area of injustice, so perhaps he's learned a thing or two about psychopaths. Among his many efforts, he's narrating Chapter 10 of the video-ization of The Goldstone Report (_http://www.goldstonefacts.org). Goldstone is the Jewish South African UN judge behind the "report," which is actually a UN fact-finding mission document on the Israeli-Gaza conflict (PDF here: _http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf) that accuses the IDF of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity. I understand that Goldstone faced charges of "self-hating Jew" for this report. You can read all about it by searching this forum on keywords "goldstone report".
 
PopHistorian said:
"Psychos," he says, slamming down the book, "they don't give a flying [bleep]! You can't negotiate with them. You can't reason with them. The only thing you can do is to [bleep] them up, scare the {bleep] out of them. You've gotta make them believe that this is not [bleeping] worth it."

It's awesome that they really do call 'em out, though, like you said, revealing them for what they really are is how to really scare the [bleep] out of them. When I first started at my relatively new job I ran into a guy who was extremely funny, charismatic, and had a good pity me story which made me like him quite a bit. However, thanks to what I learned from here, I kept a cold distance from him and, when he transferred to another store, I was not surprised to hear quite a few disgusting stories about his predatory ways. When my coworkers finally got done expressing how wicked he really was I made the remark that he sounded like a predator (didn't want to use the word psychopath) and it just clicked. Everyone was like "That's exactly it, that's the word!" It's pretty sad though, because he had to leave before anyone would share this information openly. And he was a real coward too, nothing scary at all!! The main thing he had going for him is that he had convinced everyone that him and the boss were really really close, so, though the manager later expressed how much hatred she had for him too, everyone thought that he had some leverage over them. And the manager helped this along by really working him to death, always having him around, but only because she had the power to use him and he would obey. But as I now know he was probably just doing that to find an angle to stab her in the back later on. Really creepy situation.

Anyways, I'm going to have to check this video out. By the way, it's on Netflix but not as a streaming video. Thanks PopHistorian.
 
hespen said:
By the way, it's on Netflix but not as a streaming video. Thanks PopHistorian.

It's in my queue. Can't wait to view it. I know someone who worked with Loach.
 
PopHistorian said:
One of the guys promptly rushes in with a book about psychopaths and summarizes his research for the others, "Psychos," he says, slamming down the book, "they don't give a flying [bleep]! You can't negotiate with them. You can't reason with them. The only thing you can do is to [bleep] them up, scare the {bleep] out of them. You've gotta make them believe that this is not [bleeping] worth it."

Yes, it sounds very interesting. This seems like a good reason to be prepared with knowledge of psychopathy so that when a friend/relative has problems with some psycho, and they decide to trust and ask for help, the person with the knowledge would be ready to help in some way.

I wonder what the book was that got "slammed down". Did anyone notice if it was on our recommended reading list? :P
 
It looked like a medium-sized paperback with a serious, unglamorous, textbook-like design, the word "Psychopaths" prominent and a subtitle underneath that was too small to read. I should've tried the zoom feature on my DVD player to see if I could make it out, but I returned the disk today.
 
Interesting development here: Eric Cantona is apparently outspoken against the New World Order and their banking takeover. This guy is enormously famous. Maybe it was his influence that made psychopathy such an important feature in the "Looking for Eric" film.

CNN: _http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/22/mondays-intriguing-people-37/?hpt=T2
Guardian: _http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/20/eric-cantona-bank-protest-campaign

[...] The 44-year-old former footballer recommended a run on the cash reserves of the world's banks during a newspaper interview that was also filmed. The interview has become a YouTube hit and has spawned a new political movement.

The regional newspaper Presse Océan in Nantes had asked Cantona about his work with the Abbé Pierre Foundation, which campaigns for housing for the destitute and for which he produced a book of photographs last year. But the discussion soon moved on to other issues, including the demonstrations in France and elsewhere against government cutbacks in the new era of austerity.

Cantona, wearing a bright red jumper, dismissed protesters who take to the streets with placards and banners as passé. Instead, he said, they should create a social and economic revolution by taking their money out of their bank.

He said: "I don't think we can be entirely happy seeing such misery around us. Unless you live in a pod. But then there is a chance... there is something to do. Nowadays what does it mean to be on the streets? To demonstrate? You swindle yourself. Anyway, that's not the way any more.

"We don't pick up weapons to kill people to start the revolution. The revolution is really easy to do these days. What's the system? The system is built on the power of the banks. So it must be destroyed through the banks.

[...]

YouTube interview: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uop5R7E314
 
I also saw this movie, right before Cantona's interview with Presse Océan went viral! I was also a big fan of his as a football-mad kid :P

I thought Ken Loach did an excellent job of "planting seeds" by dropping the reference to psychopaths into Looking for Eric, an otherwise dour movie about football and working class Manchester.

A discussion has opened up on this thread about the merits of Cantona's proposal that people empty the bank vaults on December 7th.
 
Thanks for the heads up Pop
I love Ken Loach movies. I am sure he will not disappoint with this one either.
 
I saw this recently, and it is a very good film, and the first Ken Loach film I've seen since Kes, which may have been one of his earliest (again a very moving, if "grim reality" type of film).

The only problem I had with the film was the ending; it just smacked of wishful thinking, but theatrically it was a colourful and effective device - an army of "Cantona's", working class superheroes.

But I just thought it was a little too clean cut, the ending, a tougher loach film would have ended up with that "final" confrontation leading to reprisals and more bloodshed. A gritty portrayal of the low-life psychopaths on the street though. Great film though, "Fight Club" for toking Man Utd fans in a mid-life crisis? Nah, an everyman kind of film, and such a familiar scenario for many these days I'll dare to assume.

I may even check out some of Loach's other material, a good pick this film.
 

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