MARTIAL LAW

[consciousnessrep]

This is crazy I know for sure that this is part of the control system. In chicago they are especially talking about putting the military on the streets. Which my friend told me well if this is the case the only place you would be able to go is to your job and back. And that everybody could not come on a certain block not even to visit a friend. And you can only go to the store on your block and not others. And he said we wont be able to even stand outside just to chill. And the reason for this is because people in my city is committing so much crimes that they are using this for an excuss to come in and set this. They are voting on this now I am not sure who is voting on this but they are. And my friend told me that it really would not matter much because if they keep committing the crimes they will force it on us. BE AWARE OF MARTIAL LAW


MARTIAL LAW

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The following guide will help you plan, prepare, and get ready in the event that martial law threatens you safety and well being. It is divided into two parts. The first part describes the framework for martial law and the second part the actions to take in preparing for the actual declaration of martial law.


INTERESTING FACTS

Martial law is defined as: military rule or authority imposed on a civilian population when the civil authorities cannot maintain law and order, as in a time of war or during an emergency.
Hitler turned Germany into a Nazi dictatorship through executive orders.
Executive Order 10995: All communications media are to be seized by the Federal Government. Radio, TV, newspapers, CB, Ham, telephones, and the internet will be under federal control. Hence, the First Amendment will be suspended indefinitely.
Executive Order 10997: All electrical power, fuels, and all minerals well be seized by the federal government.
Executive Order 10998: All food resources, farms and farm equipment will be seized by the government. You will not be allowed to hoard food since this is regulated.
Executive Order 10999: All modes of transportation will go into government control. Any vehicle can be seized.
Executive Order 11000: All civilians can be used for work under federal supervision.
Executive Order 11490: Establishes presidential control over all US citizens, businesses, and churches in time of "emergency."
Executive Order 12919: Directs various Cabinet officials to be constantly ready to take over virtually all aspects of the US economy during a State of National Emergency at the direction of the president.
Executive Order 13010: Directs FEMA to take control over all government agencies in time of emergency. FEMA is under control of executive branch of the government.
Executive Order 12656: "ASSIGNMENT OF EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS RESPONSIBILITIES", "A national emergency is any occurrence, including natural disaster, military attack, technological emergency, or other emergency that seriously degrades or seriously threatens the national security of the United States. Policy for national security emergency preparedness shall be established by the President." This order includes federal takeover of all local law enforcement agencies, wage and price controls, prohibits you from moving assets in or out of the United States, creates a draft, controls all travel in and out of the United States, and much more.
Martial law can be declared due to natural disasters, Y2k Crisis, Stock Market crash, no electricity, riots, biological attack, .... anything leading to the breakdown of law and order.
SURVIVING MARTIAL LAW
Prepare before any declaration of martial law by becoming self reliant. You may become subject to a bureaucratic system and be prepared to stay one step ahead of it which is easy to do if you are prepared and in a position to be self reliant. You may also face mob rule, chaos, panic, or a complete breakdown in law and order. Surival situations may be easier to handle in rural areas than urban.
Avoid areas of marital law. Can be imposed due to natural disasters or man caused events. Important to have a retreat or place in a rural area away from populated areas.
Create alliances with like minded neighbors or community members that share your views. Team work and numbers may help your situation.
Become transparent in the sense that you do not draw attention to yourself or your family. For instance, do not tell people that you are storing food just store food. Be prepared to render assistance to neighbors if need be. You never know when you will need them.
Remain calm! Do not panic.
Avoid areas of civil unrest if possible. If caught in civil unrest take appropriate action.
Get informed and stay informed. Understand martial law can be a temporary crisis or an extended one. In extreme cases the shape of a whole nation can change.
Declaration of martial law means your rights are suspended and it is government by decree. Your constitutional rights may no longer apply. This could mean a state of National Emergency.
People can be arrested and imprisoned indefinitely without charges.
Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly can be suspended, and censorship of the media imposed.
Gun ownership will also come under severe attack during marital law. We could see house to house searches by the military or National Guard looking for guns and seizing any they find along with stored food.
Take a stand on issues and make a choice that fits your beliefs and the situation. Do you believe as Patrick Henry, "Give me liberty or give me death?" Realize you may have some hard choices to make. Understand you may have to sacrifice your principles on trivial matters or take a hard stand. Always remember that you may have to come back and fight another day.


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[anart]

This is crazy I know for sure that this is part of the control system. In chicago they are especially talking about putting the military on the streets.

Could you provide some data to back this up, please? News reports, military reports, anything that might actually provide some data?

 

[consciousnessrep]

from what I heard is They did not report this yet. But they are discussing it who discussing it I am not sure. My friend told me but I forgot who he said was discussing it. And that is why I put that information down at the bottom of my message. I got that from google and it basically explains what it is. I am sorry that I dont have reports or any thing. And I am sorry I dont remember the people who are discussing it but look it up and maybe you could get more info. And they are plaining this for chicago just so you could remember the city they are talking about setting this for.

 

[anart]

from what I heard is They did not report this yet. But they are discussing it who discussing it I am not sure. My friend told me but I forgot who he said was discussing it.

I understand, but, unfortunately, that means it's just hearsay, and, basically fear mongering. It may be true, but in order to actually address such a situation, data is needed, not hearsay.

And that is why I put that information down at the bottom of my message. I got that from google and it basically explains what it is.

Yes, it explains what Martial Law is, but that doesn't necessarily mean it is imminent in Chicago.

I am sorry that I dont have reports or any thing. And I am sorry I dont remember the people who are discussing it but look it up and maybe you could get more info.

No need to apologize, but if you're going to post something on the forum, it's best to have data of some sort to back it up. As far as looking it up on my own, that's really putting the responsibility onto others to get information when you're the one who brought it up - that's not really how this forum works.

And they are plaining this for chicago just so you could remember the city they are talking about setting this for.

Again, please provide data to back this statement up and we can go from there.

 

[Gimpy]

from what I heard is They did not report this yet. But they are discussing it who discussing it I am not sure. My friend told me but I forgot who he said was discussing it. And that is why I put that information down at the bottom of my message. I got that from google and it basically explains what it is. I am sorry that I dont have reports or any thing. And I am sorry I dont remember the people who are discussing it but look it up and maybe you could get more info. And they are plaining this for chicago just so you could remember the city they are talking about setting this for.

Well, what you posted reminds me alot of an email chain letter. As such, without any data or other evidence, it appears to be propaganda geared to stir people up. Once people are stirred up, then you have a perfect excuse for said martial law.

Unless you have more to go on, I wouldn't take anything like it to heart, fwiw.

 

[truth seeker]

When I looked up martial law and Chicago, what came up was the impeached Gov. Rod Blagojevich. There was some flap coming from sources that I wouldn't consider reputable. The term martial law seems to have been coined in an article that was then republished on a few other sites. I don't think Blagojevich stated that specifically.
For anyone interested:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-blagojevich-impeachment-removal,0,5791846.story

 

[Jeremy F Kreuz]

Martial law is defined as: military rule or authority imposed on a civilian population when the civil authorities cannot maintain law and order, as in a time of war or during an emergency.

It seems IMHO that in the US the civil authorities are doing a 'good' job in maintaining law and order. Why would the PTB need martial law and upset the current sleep of the population and awake them to the reality they live in? Martial law might be needed the moment that the population does wake up and tries to ask for some clarification of what is really going on. Then it would make sense to make that impossible and force them back into sleep through martial law, or at least make it much harder to continue to wake up.

Martial law will more likely happen when the PTB are threatened to be uprooted or when something happens they did not plan or anticipated (like a comet?)

Hitler turned Germany into a Nazi dictatorship through executive orders.

Using executive orders to turn a state into a dictatorship is not the same as declaring martial law. In case of emergency any country (whatever form of government) can declare martial law. Since 911 the use of executive orders seems a tool in the US to change what the country used to be in what is/or becomes a dictatorship. No martial law required to do that.

from: http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/executive/index.html

The Post 9/11/01 Attack on Civil Liberties Through Executive and Judicial Orders.

Since September 11th, the Bush Administration has made sweeping attacks on constitutional due process through executive orders and Justice Department rule changes. Several federal judges have cooperated in these attacks. Following is a partial chronology of the attacks.

September 21, 2001 - Secrecy of Immigration Hearings -- Chief Immigration Judge Michael Creppy issued a memo to all immigration judges requiring the closure of all deportation proceedings to the public and press when directed by the Justice Department.
October 17, 2001 - Freedom of Information Act -- Attorney General Ashcroft issued a directive limiting FOIA compliance and cites the threat of terrorism as justification. However, the directive actually covers all government information, much of which has no national security or law enforcement connection.
October 31, 2001 - Attorney-Client Privilege -- The Department of Justice published a new regulation authorizing prison officials to monitor communications between detainees and their lawyers without obtaining a court order. The government can listen to conversations between attorneys and their clients in federal custody, whether they have been convicted or merely accused of a crime. Previously, this type of monitoring could only occur if the government had obtained a court order based on probable cause to believe that communication with an attorney was being used to facilitate a new crime or for foreign intelligence purposes. aclu.org
November 9, 2001 - Racial Profiling -- Attorney General John Ashcroft announced a plan to target some 5,000 young men of Middle Eastern and South Asian heritage who entered the country in the last two years on non-immigrant visas but who are not suspected of any criminal activity for questioning by the federal government. aclu.org
November 13, 2001 - Secret Military Tribunals -- President Bush issued an order that asserted his authority to try by military commission any non-citizen suspected of being a terrorist, aiding a terrorist, or harboring a terrorist. Under the order, the President effectively decides who will be entitled to constitutional rights and who will not. In these courts, military officers would serve as judges and jurors and a two-thirds vote would be sufficient for conviction in all but capital cases, where unanimity would be required. The trials may be held in secret. No court -- federal, state, foreign or international -- is allowed to review the military commission's proceedings. aclu.org
March 2002 - Privacy -- Attorney General John Ashcroft announced the expansion and increased funding of the National Neighborhood Watch Program. The plan extended the neighborhood watches to include terrorism prevention, a move critics fear could fuel ethnic and religious scapegoating. Ashcroft asked neighborhood groups to report on people who are "unfamiliar" or who act in ways that are "suspicious" or "not normal."
March 20, 2002 - Racial Profiling -- FBI Dragnet -- Attorney General John Aschroft announced a second FBI dragnet plan to question an additional 3,000 individuals of Middle Eastern and South Asian heritage. aclu.org
April 18, 2002 - Government Secrecy -- Attorney General John Ashcroft ordered state and local governments not to release the names of people detained since September 11, stating that federal law supersedes any state or local claims to the information. In January, the ACLU of New Jersey sued, claiming the names of people arrested and held in New Jersey are public information under the state's right-to-know law. A New Jersey court mandated that the names of immigration detainees in jails be released under the state's open records law by April 22, 2002. Immediately, Ashcroft ordered state and local governments not to release the names. The ACLU is seeking the names to find out how the detainees are being treated and to provide access to legal representation. aclu.org
May 30, 2002 - Domestic Spying/New FBI Guidelines -- Attorney General John Ashcroft announced new FBI guidelines that granted agents new authority to monitor the activities of private citizens and organizations. The FBI can freely infiltrate mosques, churches, synagogues and other houses of worship, attend public meetings, listen in on online chat rooms and read message boards even if it has no evidence of criminal activity. The FBI will now be able to purchase information from data mining companies to build profiles on individuals and will be able to conduct full investigations for one year with no evidence of a crime being committed. The guidelines were originally put in place in response to well-documented FBI abuses in the 1950s and 1960s. aclu.org
June 5, 2002 - Ethnic Discrimination -- Attorney General John Ashcroft announces a plan that would require hundreds of thousands of lawful visitors -- including those already in the country -- from mostly Muslim nations to provide fingerprints to authorities upon arrival and register with the Immigration and Naturalization Service after 30 days in the country. Visitors who fail to do either of these things face fines or even deportation. The fingerprinting and tracking proposal is only the latest Bush administration action targeted at Muslims and people of Middle Eastern descent. aclu.org
June 9, 2002 - U.S. Citizen Subject to Military Detention -- President Bush designated U.S. citizen, Jose Padilla, an "enemy combatant" who is under military detention despite earlier assurances that U.S. citizens would not be subject to military jurisdiction. Padilla was suspected of plotting to detonate a so-called "dirty bomb" even though law enforcement officials concede that the plot might never have moved beyond the discussion stage. The Brooklyn-born Puerto Rican has been held in military custody since May 8 and has not been charged with any crime. On June 11, the Bush administration announced that Padilla may be held indefinitely without a trial. aclu.org
August 12, 2002 - Fingerprinting Immigrants from Muslim Nations -- The Department of Justice finalized a plan that would require thousands of lawful visitors -- from a list of predominantly Muslim nations -- to provide fingerprints to authorities upon arrival and register with the Immigration and Naturalization Service after 30 days in the country. Visitors who fail to do either of these things face fines or even deportation. Attorney General John Ashcroft, with the support of the Administration, made this announcement despite intense opposition from the State Department. aclu.org
October 8, 2002 - Upholding of Secret Immigration Hearings -- The Third Circuit Court of Appeals in New Jersey ruled that immigration hearings involving people detained after September 11 may be closed by the government without the input of the court. At issue is a policy set forth in a September 21, 2001 memo from Chief Immigration Judge Michael Creppy to all immigration judges requiring the closure of all proceedings to the public and the press, when directed by the Justice Department. aclu.org

 

[kenney]

Using executive orders to turn a state into a dictatorship is not the same as declaring martial law. In case of emergency any country (whatever form of government) can declare martial law. Since 911 the use of executive orders seems a tool in the US to change what the country used to be in what is/or becomes a dictatorship. No martial law required to do that.

sadly executive orders have been abused far longer than most think. But non of the presidents began going crazy with them until Lincoln. After that point they start stacking up, each president taking more and more liberties with the powers that these orders grant them. At first they were more like a presidential notice about someones uncommon valor or a service done while they were in office now they are anything the president or his cabinet do not want to have pushed through congress for a vote. Reagan used these for the big mess with nicaruaga and to set up libya for their later bombing. Things that would never have made it through the regular branches of govt.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/executive_orders.php

who needs a dictatorship with those kinds of powers?

 

[Joe]

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/executive_orders.php

who needs a dictatorship with those kinds of powers?

Indeed. Troops on the streets and curfew are the very last and overt aspects of martial that will be implemented in the US. Pretty much all other aspects of standard martial law are already in use there and have been for many years - wiretapping, infiiltration and manipulation of any and all social groups, unlawful detention etc. with the exception of course of the military actually taking control of the government. But given the massively corrupt nature of the US government's executive and legislative branches and the fact that, for decades now, US domestic policy has been dictated by psychopathic corporations and US foreign policy has been run by way of a secret an unaccountable secret army (akk the CIA) a takeover by the military would in fact be a very welcome development and beneficial for most American citizens.