Minds with robot bodies

[aaronfransen]

I was reading this article:

http://www.whiteowlconspiracy.com/2013/06/secrets-of-transhumanist-agenda.html#.UcJjDsu9KSN

It talks about how by 2045 one scientist thinks we will be able to upload our consciousness into robotic bodies, thus doing away with all of the foibles of human frailty.

And it made me think about how our fourth density "friends" (using that term sarcastically, lest anyone think otherwise) use the so-called gray aliens as nothing more than vessels for consciousness, partially autonomous husks designed to be available for the fourth density folks to come visit us once in a while.

Heck, why bother at all? Why not just kill ourselves and get it over with? No more war, no strife...oh yeah, no love, no music, no stories, no imagination...no growth in other words.

I admit I have trouble some days justifying ourselves as a species, but I certainly don't think uploading into a computer is much of an answer.

 

[Vulcan59]

This article was also published on SOTT. :)


http://www.sott.net/article/262880-The-singularity-is-near-Mind-uploading-by-2045

 

[mkrnhr]

It depends on how they define "consciousness". If they define consciousness as memories and programs, that's possibly feasible at some point in the future, but the real question is, will consciousness choose to sit in those machines? Sometimes some people like to talk about things they do not understand (reductionist science does not recognize consciousness the way conscious people do feel it).

 

[Possibility of Being]

It depends on how they define "consciousness". If they define consciousness as memories and programs, that's possibly feasible at some point in the future, but the real question is, will consciousness choose to sit in those machines? Sometimes some people like to talk about things they do not understand (reductionist science does not recognize consciousness the way conscious people do feel it).

Exactly. But I can foresee problems in either way.

If they define consciousness as memories and programs, as you say, there is a big part of it stored in the body as more and more psychological research tend to admit (at last!). Inserting memories and programs into robotic bodies when detached from the real body with its memories and knowledge the brain is often not aware of would be something like installing an application or front end in a computer that has no operating system running (probably not the best analogy, but close enough I think). It would have bugs and glitches, not to mention that this kind of consciousness is, by definition, malfunctioning in a big way as we all well know.

If they mean consciousness in its cosmic connection sense (which I doubt), then I have no idea how they are going to approach it and implement the insertion. Seems way more problematic than, say, capturing and storing energy from lightning for later use, which still remains to be solved.

From the article:

“We shouldn’t just observe the wonderful entrepreneurs — we need to move ahead systematically. We are really at the time when technology can affect human evolution.[...]

Well, technology has affected human evolution a big way and with some help from psychopaths made it devolution instead...

By 2025, there could be human consciousness “transplanted” into a robotic body which would replace the flawed physical bodies we now use.

"flawed"? How about focusing on good diet, healthy human environment (in a broad sense of the term) and so forth instead? That's not only talking about things they don't understand, that's a psychopathic way of thinking pretty much, if you ask me.

 

[mkrnhr]

yes, they give the clear impression that they don't know what they are talking about.

 

[paralleloscope]

In this clip; they have gathered some religious representatives to seemingly bless the 2045 project and perhaps soften the 'faith' crowd. Can't say if it is really so, it's just the feeling I get from just a short presentation of them talking briefly about what their different philosophies represent and how they view science / technology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MudSgPnqBFM

 

[SadEyes]

This makes me think about Transformers a lot. I always used to wonder if such a thing might really be possible; if consciousness would in fact insert themselves into robotic bodies. Looking at the way our planet is heading, I truly believe that some may have done that in some remote part of the galaxy or Universe. Maybe one day we'll know for sure...