Mischievous dead dudes? A request for guidance / information

[Il Matto]

Greetings all,
If I may, I would like to appeal for some guidance (on behalf of my wife, whose permission I have to appeal for this guidance).

During two recent periods of mediation (with seed), my wife has had some troubling experiences. Now, I have not known her to be in the slightest bit phased regarding meditative experiences - or dreams for that matter - before, so these two recent experiences stand out somewhat.
According to her description, whilst meditating, she had a clear sensation that her bottom jaw was gone (completely, not merely detached), breathing became difficult and she had a powerful sensation of a heavy weight on her chest, as if someone was trying to resuscitate her. Despite trying to remain focussed on the 'seed', and attempting to calm her breathing, my wife has felt overwhelmed by what she describes as a 'different part of herself' babbling about 'not letting in / inviting the evil'. Her response to this on these occasions has been to pray (a preoccupation with 'evil' is completely out of character).

I also have my wife's permission add a little background context that may or may not be useful: Since the death of her identical twin sister back in 2003, my wife has - fairly - regularly experienced what she describes as 'communications', which initially manifested in a brief period of automatic writing, but are now 'heard' internally (interestingly, her index finger often twitches when this happens). Long before I met her she had dubbed these 'communications' as 'angels' (she was raised Catholic in Italy), though absolutely does not think of them as angelic beings. I should add here that she has never put any real 'stock' in what has been communicated to her, in fact, in the time I have known her, we have had cause to laugh about them on a number of occasions. From her point of view, the communications seem to come clearly from different sources, and after our lengthy discussions, she seems able to identify and differentiate those who try to manipulate, from those who do not (we have, however, discussed many times the possibility that this is all coming from her subconscious mind and are not in fact 'external'). A minor example to illustrate: whilst we were on holiday in France during August, my wife was 'told' that our holiday would be ruined because she would have to drive me (her husband) a long way to receive emergency dental work. Needless to say, this did not come to pass - my teeth are fine - and as far as we are both consciously aware, my wife has no worries about my dental health. Odd.
I relay all of this (and apologise for the lack of brevity) as I'm becoming increasingly suspicious that what we may be looking at here (regarding the recent meditation experiences) are potentially one or more mischievous 'dead dudes' (hence the title of the thread) - but I clearly cannot be certain and am trying to maintain a healthy scepticism and not anticipate without further information.

So, with all of that said, my point here has been to ask for suggested reading in the first instance (as knowledge protects and I know woefully little about potential 'spirit attachment'), or perhaps there maybe something that I'm not seeing in all this that seems obvious to someone else (me needing to call the men in white coats? ).

With many thanks in advance for your reading and consideration.

 

[Wandering Star]

I am going to tell you something that happened to me two days ago, after arriving from a 15-day vacation, in a place where elderly people spend their vacations.

I was about to fall asleep at that point between consciousness and unconsciousness, when I began to hear a woman's voice. She talked and talked but I didn't want to hear what she was saying because she was "assaulting" my mind. As I refused to listen, she increased the noise. It was very annoying and I couldn't stop it and go to sleep.

So I decided to increase my connection to the positive side (that's my understanding) and I started praying the prayer of the soul.

The noise grew and I had a hard time concentrating on the words and the meaning of each sentence (with which I resonate very strongly), and I almost reached the end of the sentence when the noise began to fade.

When I finished praying/connecting, in my mind there was only silence and I fell asleep right away.

Regardless of the origin of your experience, if the experience is unwanted, there may be a state/frequency that is not good for "visitors".

It is very difficult to answer your question, but I hope this helps you.

 

[Il Matto]

Thank you for relaying your own experience Wandering Star - all contributions are helpful in some way!

Regardless of the origin of your experience, if the experience is unwanted, there may be a state/frequency that is not good for "visitors".

Coincidentally, after my initial post, I went back to one of my main points of reference, the CassWiki, and read the entry on Spirit Attachment (something I probably should have done first ). I read the whole piece aloud to my wife and our subsequent conversation quickly became centred around the concept of frequency:

"just being a human being makes one vulnerable to spirit attachments due to a familiar frequency match with a family member or a friend or a stranger. In a case of the latter, it’s usually a number of type of bonds shared between the dying and the living that create an ”opening” of frequency contact."

I hesitate to declare an 'aha!' moment here and confidently diagnose the problem. More information is needed (and the books listed in Spirit Attachment section of the CassWiki look like a fine start).

 

[Cosmos]

Hard to say, but I would tend to suggest that if she is feeling this way recently while meditating, that it might be a good idea to not force it and stop meditating. At least for a while.

 

[Il Matto]

Thank you Cosmos,

I would tend to suggest that if she is feeling this way recently while meditating, that it might be a good idea to not force it and stop meditating. At least for a while.

That is what she has decided to do.

 

[Truthseeker101]

I wanted to share what happened with me earlier in the year and hopefully it will be helpful even though it is a very different situation..

I was going through a terrible power struggle with my Mother. The stress was enormous for a lot of reasons I won't go into and the situation got worse
and worse. For the first time in my life, I couldn't sleep. This went on and on December into January and I was reciting the prayer of soul constantly, meditating, Epsom Salt baths, consistent breathing exercises and nothing was working ... still couldn't sleep and obsessed with my predicament.

On the plane ride home my body had had enough. This was my wake up call that I needed some outside help with my situation. I did suspect spirit attachment as a possibility but had no idea honestly. The remote healer I worked with removed the attachment that was coming from my Mother after I asked her to look and see if she saw anything in my field. She described what she saw as a "Creature" and that is what it felt like. This whole process was deeply humbling for me since NONE of the tools I had been using, had worked. As far as I am concerned, I was possessed for 5 or 6 weeks by that attachment and it was awful. I felt it being removed from my power center solar plexus chakra as she was removing it. Thank God for those types of healers. I mentally run through my chakra's and try as best as I can to feel if I feel anything has attached to me. I get in water as much as possible since that seems to help.

 

[iamthatis]

Thank you for relaying your own experience Wandering Star - all contributions are helpful in some way!


Coincidentally, after my initial post, I went back to one of my main points of reference, the CassWiki, and read the entry on Spirit Attachment (something I probably should have done first ). I read the whole piece aloud to my wife and our subsequent conversation quickly became centred around the concept of frequency:

"just being a human being makes one vulnerable to spirit attachments due to a familiar frequency match with a family member or a friend or a stranger. In a case of the latter, it’s usually a number of type of bonds shared between the dying and the living that create an ”opening” of frequency contact."

I hesitate to declare an 'aha!' moment here and confidently diagnose the problem. More information is needed (and the books listed in Spirit Attachment section of the CassWiki look like a fine start).

I would highly suggest William Baldwin's 'Spirit Releasement Therapy'. I didn't read it as a user manual, personally, but moreso to understand spirit attachment phenomena. I was surprised to learn of the huge role that karma plays in spirit attachment - ie., unresolved energetic entanglements based on one's own negative habitual thoughts and emotions. Baldwin lays it all out in very clear and logical prose.

The karmic focus means that even if one doesn't have access to a spiritual healer of some kind, there can still be a method to remove attachments - Work on the self. We can take responsibility for our own healing.

If someone - in this case, your wife, perhaps - can identify maladaptive, automatic, indulgent, mechanical or 'sinful' behaviours, and Work to correct these in the ways described by many people (from Saint Paul to Gurdjieff to Jordan Petersen) then there is a chance that the attachment will no longer be comfortable, no longer be fed - and there is a good chance they will leave of their own accord. As the C's said, simple and karmic understandings are key!

 

[axj]

The best way to get rid of such attachments or intereference from the astral realm is to do whatever is necessary to "close energetic holes" in oneself and to permanently "raise one's energetic platform". This way, these entities indeed find it no longer comfortable and leave of their own accord.

My own exprience with an astral attachment started after I had a chronic intestinal disease that apparently weakened my energy field in the solar plexus area. Plus, emotional wounds probably played a role too, since these are also energetic holes - usually around different chakras, including the solar plexus.

In my case, the astral entity would sometimes make knocking sounds in objects around me in order to annoy me and feed on that. It was a lengthy process to close the energetic holes more and to "raise my habitual emotional and energetic platform". At one point, I noticed that the entity was no longer attached to me in the solar plexus area, but it would still come to visit and make knocking sounds for a while.

One thing I learned is that just focusing on the area (solar plexus in my case) is not really the best way to do it. To close the energetic holes and to heal emotionally in general it is always necessary to bring in "higher energies" to these holes, so that healing can happen. This can be as simple as finding feelings of self-love or self-acceptance and then holding them at the areas that hurt or are blocked.

It also seems that other than dead dudes there are also other astral beings and entities that can engage in these activities. In my case it seemed to be some kind of small poltergeist type thing which did not seem human at all.

 

[Il Matto]

The remote healer I worked with removed the attachment that was coming from my Mother after I asked her to look and see if she saw anything in my field

Thank you for sharing that experience Truthseeker101, that sounds like a pretty harrowing time in your life. I'm curious about a few things here:
- When you say the attachment was coming from your Mother, that seems to imply that your Mother was, firstly, still living at the time, and secondly, that the attachment was in some way ongoing. Is this something different from Spirit Attachment, or have I misunderstood the concept?
- Could you explain any further about how a remote healer perceives something in your field?

 

[Il Matto]

I would highly suggest William Baldwin's 'Spirit Releasement Therapy'

Thank your for affirming that iamthatis - I have now ordered this book (which was surprisingly expensive!) as a starting point

I was surprised to learn of the huge role that karma plays in spirit attachment - ie., unresolved energetic entanglements based on one's own negative habitual thoughts and emotions

As the C's said, simple and karmic understandings are key!

Thank you for clarifying that. I hadn't made the connection between 'simple and karmic understandings' and 'spirit attachment' previously. This makes some sense to me, and hopefully will make more sense once I read through the previously mentioned books.

The karmic focus means that even if one doesn't have access to a spiritual healer of some kind, there can still be a method to remove attachments - Work on the self. We can take responsibility for our own healing.

Although I still don't feel myself to be in a position to diagnose my wife as having a 'mischievous dead dude' lurking around (though I understand that to be probable if William Baldwin's suggestion that 70-100% of humans have spirit attachments is in the ball park of accurate!), Work on the self and one's maladaptive and mechanical behaviours is key here - for both myself and my wife, regardless of the cause of her meditative experiences.
Colour me skeptical, but I'm reluctant to liaise with anyone who calls themselves a 'spirit healer', or some such. It seems important to me that one should not abdicate responsibility for one's own karmic 'baggage'.
Thanks again.

 

[Truthseeker101]

Thank you for sharing that experience Truthseeker101, that sounds like a pretty harrowing time in your life. I'm curious about a few things here:
- When you say the attachment was coming from your Mother, that seems to imply that your Mother was, firstly, still living at the time, and secondly, that the attachment was in some way ongoing. Is this something different from Spirit Attachment, or have I misunderstood the concept?
- Could you explain any further about how a remote healer perceives something in your field?

My mother is currently alive and yes this a different form of attachment than what Baldwin describes as spirit attachment since Baldwin is often referring to spirits that have failed to successfully transition to 5th density. Or perhaps there is also the possibility that spirits in 5th density could be involved. I am no expert here and there are many members here who are WAY more qualified than me to describe Baldwin's work and spirit attachment in general.

In my case, I believe forces were working through my Mother that were going directly into me during my difficult time. She was/is practically consumed by these forces and these forces had a direct line from her into my solar plexus. Many people that I know feel they were "Corded" to people in their lives in a way that drained them and they often referred to the cord as an "attachment". They sought to break the cord and the attachment. I apologize for my lack of clarity. For what it is worth, the word choice you used in your initial post about "babbling" made me immediately think of an unhappy confused spirit that needed to be heard ... it's been a number of years since reading Baldwin's work, but this sounds consistent with some of the examples he gave.

How does a remote healer perceive something in one's field? Well, again I would defer to the remote healers in this group to answer this question ... I believe that there are many different ways of seeing/perceiving. Some people see within their minds eye and others feel and there are many different ways that people perceive information.

 

[Il Matto]

Thank you Truthseeker101,

In my case, I believe forces were working through my Mother that were going directly into me during my difficult time. She was/is practically consumed by these forces and these forces had a direct line from her into my solar plexus. Many people that I know feel they were "Corded" to people in their lives in a way that drained them and they often referred to the cord as an "attachment"

This brought to mind a potential connection with Barbara Hort's 'Unholy Hungers'. I have no intention of suggesting that your mother is a 'psychic vampire', but I can speculate on how this may work as a principle.

For what it is worth, the word choice you used in your initial post about "babbling" made me immediately think of an unhappy confused spirit that needed to be heard

In trying to address this, my wife tells me that after praying last night she made an attempt at identifying the source of said babbling voice, simply saying, "what do you want? There is nothing for you here". This was met with an inner silence and a peaceful night's sleep - but it's difficult to draw any conclusions from this.
On a slightly different note, my wife has used this approach before with the 'communications' that I mentioned in my original post. She has regularly received that response, "I don't know where I am, it's dark", or similar responses to that effect (as I said previously, she regards these as mostly just a nuisance from beings / entities of a low level).

 

[Princess Lux 🌷]

One thing that I practice and has helped a lot in my meditation is praying that as I meditate and ask for wisdom, I will only attract entities that can help me or just my higher self. Also, I put up a shield to protect my space. It will be according to one's discernment to do this. For me, I just declare that a shield envelope me at the moment such as those that are not after my welfare not go within my sphere. You can also say a white cocoon or a light shield, depends on you. I do this in meditation or when im in public or a gathering.

Also, how do you identify dead dudes from other entities?

 

[Il Matto]

Thank you Princess Lux,

I will only attract entities that can help me or just my higher self

how do you identify dead dudes from other entities?

It seems to me, in my limited knowledge, that discernment in the latter and the ability to do the former is a matter of frequency; in that, an individuals' frequency must be sufficiently developed, shall we say. From Laura's experience, as described in Vol 1 of The Wave, I would say that this not only takes a lot of work (and Work!) and experimentation, but also requires a method that allows for the conscious mind to engage critically to avoid the pitfalls of wishful thinking.
As Laura says in The Wave, "A dead Presbyterian is a dead Presbyterian", which is likely a fair description of most dead dudes that people such as my wife may, or may not, be able to 'communicate' with (they are of a low level). I could well be wrong, but it seems to me that genuine communication with beings of a higher density is for the few.

You can also say a white cocoon or a light shield

I'll admit to being ignorant of what this refers to - would you mind explaining them briefly please?

 

[Princess Lux 🌷]

I would say that this not only takes a lot of work (and Work!) and experimentation, but also requires a method that allows for the conscious mind to engage critically to avoid the pitfalls of wishful thinking.

This is true. I can only share to you my experience and I may or may have not also talked to dead dudes also. With my meditation, I do not intentionally communicate to whoever. I only pray/set an intention that I want to gain wisdom with my life situations or decisions. I only allow what the Universe lets me see or talk to. I might be taken to a vision or just a download of wisdom. In everything when I sense a presence, I asked the universe or my higher self if it is something/someone I can talk to which I get always a yes/no. Sometimes I see in my mind's eye, sometimes only through telepathy. Maybe you can also share to me how you go about meditation and how you are able to talk to them so I can also learn from you and refrain from things I am ignorant about. I also just want to share that I only meditate only for my personal affairs. I dont concern myself with other people or the world if Im not led to. I am curious, do you sometimes do meditation solely to reach out to other entities?

I'll admit to being ignorant of what this refers to - would you mind explaining them briefly please?

This is something I learned from a friend too. I practice this so I can be conscious of my boundaries and who I interact to. I can say I am practicing this in faith that the Universe got my back spiritually. So whenever I go out or in meditation, I declare and put up a "spiritual shield" around me to protect me from entities that cannot help or are not after my welfare. You can envision yourself being surrounded by a white light or a light cocoon. Then, you pray or set your intention for that certain meditation.

You can feel your stomach churn sometimes if you feel uncomfortable with certain "vibes" or I think one personally knows this with how their body reacts. It is through discernment what you shall do next or be led by the Universe or your higher self. When outside, I take extra care where my energy goes. In meditation, I proceed or just stay still and not interact to whichever it is that has this "vibe."