Moldavite and Crystals

Zadius Sky

The Living Force
Hi,

Since I am new to this forum and has not yet read all of the posts, I apologize in advance if this topic has already been posted.

I am curious what the "C's" have to say as regards to crystals in general. And, I am most interested in Moldavite, a green rare gemstone "from space." I'd like to know what "C's" know about it.

The following info is one explantion.

Moldavite is a translucent green meteoric gem, found only in what is now the Czech Republic. It is classed with the mysterious group of glassy objects called tektites, and it is believed to have fallen from the sky only once, about 14.8 million years ago. Prized by humans for tools and amulets some 25,000 years ago.

Moldavites are rare stones. Moldavites are among the most powerful gemstone tools for spiritual development and expansion of consciousness. They seem to engender an acceleration of one's inner growth and evolution. Hundreds of times people have described to us the rapid transformation of their lives which has come soon after they acquired Moldavite. Jobs, relationships, life styles or possessions which did not serve their highest paths were rapidly released, and the new, evolutionary forms of these same things appeared, drawn as if by magnetism. We have heard stories of visionary experience, chakra activation, energy cleansings and the discovery of personal destiny, all associated with the entrance of Moldavite in to one's life. Our own lives were similarly transformed when we discovered Moldavite in 1985, and because of our sense that Moldavite needed to be known by people everywhere, we started our company, Heaven and Earth.

It is interesting to note that Moldavite has been associated with the legendary Stone of the Holy Grail, an "emerald" said to have fallen from the sky, and a talisman for the healing of the Earth. In the legends, exposure to this Stone was said to set the beholder upon the spiritual road to self discovery and enlightenment. The same could be said of the celestial green gemstone Moldavite. Moldavite is capable of activating any and all of the chakras, though it most commonly resonates with the heart, third eye and crown chakras. Moldavite's energy tends first to move wherever it is most needed in the physical and etheric bodies, and then to center in the heart.

Moldavite harmonizes well with Quartz, Amethyst, Rose Quartz, Citrine, Danburite, Phenacite, Tanzanite, Azeztulite, Charoite, Larimar, Sugilite and dozens of other stones. It tends to supercharge and spiritualize the energies of whatever stones one uses with it. Faceted Moldavites are intensified by the cutting process. The forming of normally amorphous Moldavite into the precise geometric forms of gems focuses their energies in a way analogous to a laser. Moldavite earrings or rings place these powerful gems on meridian points of our subtle energy bodies, and the focused Moldavite energies flow throughout our whole system, raising our vibration. The same is even more true with pendants, which can be worn directly over the heart or throat chakras, or between them. Exposure to Moldavite begins a process of energetic resonance in which the vibratory rate of our whole being is increased. This may explain why many people find Moldavite to be so transformative.

Moldavite can be worn in jewelry and are also useful unset placed on the body or held during meditation, or arranged in grids with other stones. Moldavite stands out as the premier transformational gemstone of the mineral kingdom, and these gems will carry its beneficial energies to all those who are ready to receive them.
From http://www.heavenandearthjewelry.com/articles/moldavite.html
 
From what I can find, moldavite did not fall as a meteorite, but is a glass formed as a result of a meteorite:

Tektite / Moldavite
This natural Glass is believed to have originated from meteorites which fell to the Earth. Tektites are found in 4 major fields: Czechoslovakia, Australia/Southeast Asia, the Ivory Coast of West Africa and south/southeastern North America. Some of the inclusions generally found in this natural Glass are gas filled bubbles and vesicles, a contorted swirling internal structure, small grains or curved "tails" of pure silica Glass, Iron/Nickel spherules and shocked mineral inclusions.
Tektites are found in the four major areas of the world, but Moldavite comes only from the Moldau River Valley in Czechoslovakia in what is called the Ries Crater. Chemical analysis dates this Tektite Crater to 14.7 Million years! Our faceted moldavites are transparent medium to medium dark Green. Moldavite has a hardness of 5.5-6.6. It has been used since prehistoric times as jewelry, tools, and religious artifacts.
from: XXX.gem-resource.com/gemology/Tektite_Moldavite(dot)htm

Wiki says it was formed with a silicone rich content, this doesn't seem all that compelling to me, particularly since everywhere I could find lauding it's more esoteric qualities seems to be also stating that the substance itself fell intact to Earth with no greater details to confirm this.

Considering the age of the substance and the time of its formation, more information might be interesting.
 
Actually, we did have a guest once who was told the same thing and brought the piece of rock to the session to ask about it.

31 Dec 94

Q: (V) This right here I picked up at the Tampa Metaphysical
bookstore, (Holds up rock), it is supposed to be a piece
of meteorite. What can you tell me about this? I was
told that it's used for transformation.

A: Bogus. (Laughter)
 
Laura said:
Actually, we did have a guest once who was told the same thing and brought the piece of rock to the session to ask about it.

31 Dec 94

Q: (V) This right here I picked up at the Tampa Metaphysical
bookstore, (Holds up rock), it is supposed to be a piece
of meteorite. What can you tell me about this? I was
told that it's used for transformation.

A: Bogus. (Laughter)
Wow. Do you know what kind of rock was it?

I brought a moldavite back in late 2004, and during the first two weeks of wearing it, I experienced a dizziness and I had vivid dreams when near me. Not sure if this moldavite would be a transformation or just "bogus". There is not much information as regard to moldavite out there, and I don't feel comfortable meditating on it or wearing it without much information on it.
 
Hi Zadius Sky,
Much time has passed since you wrote this.
It is interesting going to the old posts and see how people transformed since they wrote them.
Did you learn more about moldavite and crystals?

I am also interested in understanding more about crystals.
I have heard many people saying that they strongly feel moldavite's special energy.
I am curious: is moldavite bogus, a part of the new age movements stuff? Or it really is holding some special energy and helps in meditation?

Based on what I know about it now, Robert Simmons is a person who popularized moldavite about 20 years ago, he was one of the first whole sellers, he also wrote a book Stones of the New Consciousness.
Here in this video he is talking about how he popularized moldavite and how it changed his life. He also has a store that sells all the stones mentioned in his book, including Moldavite.
So, obviously, Robert Simmons, is interested in pushing it for profit.

Regarding other crystals: I know that some people are very sensitive to crystal energies.
I personally "feel" the energy of rose quartz and a few other stones. Rose quarts resonates with my heart.
I am curious if maybe there is something to it. Maybe we should use some crystals to assist in spiritual awakening.

What do you, guys, think about it?

Has anyone had any interesting experiences with crystals?
 
From Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moldavite

Moldavite (Czech: Vltavín) is an olive-green or dull greenish vitreous substance possibly formed by a meteorite impact, which would make it one kind of tektite. They were introduced to the scientific public for the first time in 1786 as “chrysolites” from Týn nad Vltavou in a lecture by professor Josef Mayer of Prague University, read at a meeting of the Bohemian Scientific Society (Mayer 1788). Zippe (1836) first used the term “moldavite” derived from the town of Moldauthein (Czech: Týn nad Vltavou) - now in Bohemia (the Czech Republic), from where the first described pieces came.

Moldavite's bottle-green glass colour led to its being commonly called Bouteillen-stein, and at one time it was regarded as an artificial product, but this view is opposed to the fact that no remains of glassworks are found in the neighbourhood of its occurrence; moreover, pieces of the substance are widely distributed in Middle to Upper Miocene and younger fluvial clays and gravelly sands in Bohemia and Moravia. The chemical formula of moldavite is SiO2(+Al2O3).

In 1900, F. E. Suess pointed out that the gravel-size moldavites exhibited curious pittings and wrinkles on the surface, which could not be due to the action of water, but resembled the characteristic markings on many meteorites. Boldly attributing the material to a cosmic origin, he regarded moldavites as a special type of meteorite for which he proposed the name of tektite. However, for a long time, it was generally believed to be a variety of obsidian. Because of their difficult fusibility, extremely low water content, and its chemical composition, the current overwhelming consensus among earth scientists is that moldavites were formed about 14,700,000 years ago during the impact of a giant meteorite in present-day Nördlinger Ries. Splatters of material that was melted by the impact cooled while they were actually airborne and most fell in Bohemia. Currently, moldavites have been found in an area that includes southern Bohemia, western Moravia, the Cheb Basin (northwest Bohemia), Lusatia (Germany), and Waldviertel (Austria).[1] Isotope analysis of samples of moldavites have shown a beryllium-10 isotope composition similar to the composition of Australasian tektites (australites) and Ivory Coast tektites (ivorites). Their similarity in beryllium-10 isotope composition indicates that moldavites, australites, and ivorites consist of near surface and loosely consolidated terrestrial sediments melted by hypervelocity impacts.

It seems quite possible that Moldavite might have special "vibes" because of its origin in violent explosions. It may also have originally carried viruses from space. I think the Cs were right with their "bogus" response to the question as to whether or not a piece of mineral can help with "transformation". But that doesn't mean they don't have useful functions. However, I think I feel much better in the presence of the slow growing type of crystals that are natural to the Earth environment.
 
Or it might be that this specific moldavite he picked up was bogus. It is well known that moldavite is very rare and expensive, to the order of hundreds or even thousands of dollar for a sub-1 oz specimen; for that reason - and its likeness to glass - the market for counterfeit moldavites (green molded glass from china) is huge and the incidence of fake moldavites is orders of magnitude more common than real ones.

As for crystals, their effect is to be discussed, paradoxically both undeniable but also trivial as compared to that of actual consciousness. Interesti.g for sure.
 
United Gnosis said:
Or it might be that this specific moldavite he picked up was bogus.

True. Never thought of that though the question was mainly about whether the claims that it could aid transformation were true.
 
Εἰρήvη said:
Hi Zadius Sky,
Much time has passed since you wrote this.
It is interesting going to the old posts and see how people transformed since they wrote them.
Did you learn more about moldavite and crystals?

Well, I haven't looked into moldavite much since then. I still have a couple of it in my "lead" box. :P

What made me intrigued about moldavite at the time is its effects on me when I first got it (necklace-fashioned, around $90, as I recall), compared to other crystals. I experienced dizziness, close to being passed out, when I wore it the first time, and I had to struggle staying awake whenever wearing it from then on. I eventually gave up using it. I never thought of it as an aid to transformation or anything like that. I was awfully curious about its origin because other crystals were explained quite well. I used to collect gemstones and crystals.

Indeed, the moldavite is very rare. A couple of months ago, when I was in a New Age store, looking at some of the crystals - I noticed many stones were "created" or "adjusted" with several stones in one stone for a "better" price. There were even stones that I never heard of before, making them "unique". I also noticed that there's moldavite section (some actually looked different slightly from mine) being fashioned with other crystals (amethyst, for an example). The fact that moldavite is so rare, there shouldn't be "more" being sold. Or so I think...

For me now, I particularly like quartz crystals as a focus for meditating, and selenite for its beauty. :)
 
Hi, I have a small carved Moldavite skull I'm thinking of selling. I just looked at ebay and a similar one is being sold for $795.00 ! WOW! I think I purchased mine for $125.00 8 years ago. I noticed a uncarved piece of moldavite, that I carried with me around the same time, also made me feel dizzy at first.

I wonder if anyone here has insight on the phenomenon of the crystal skulls and people working with them in meditation etc. I dont know when all that started, with so many people involved, but its been around for at least 15 years and i'ts a small but serious, to the people involved, sub-culture in itself. The c's may have mentioned this briefly in relationship to the "ancient skulls" I vaguely recall. But this present day interest is mainly with the recently carved skulls which people collect. The whole thing began with a few people who had very old (apparently) skulls in their possession, and theirs experiences with them. Tests in labs where conducted on some of these skulls and unusual findings arose such as a skull fashioned in such a way that any modern day attempt to carve this stone would have shattered the crystal. People take their contemporary skulls to gatherings where these old ones are being displayed and place their skulls with it so the "vibes" are transferred to their skulls. Then they "work" with the skull in meditation or whatever.

The picture below is the skull on ebay. If you want mine for $785.00 its yours! haha
 

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Laura said:
It may also have originally carried viruses from space.
True, Laura.
All the minerals need cleansing, because there is a chance that they may carry some unwanted energies or even entities.
I bury mine in salt and sage for 3 days.

Laura said:
However, I think I feel much better in the presence of the slow growing type of crystals that are natural to the Earth environment.
Me too. I started feeling some energies mainly coming from different types of quartz. Rose quartz, clear quartz and rutilated quartz are the strongest for me. Rose quartz envelopes with sweet energy of love, ritulated, and clear quartz point just make my body vibrate oh higher frequencies than my body. I decided to study some of the crystals (their atomic structure, optics etc). And I also have a journal in which I record what I feel.

Zadius Sky said:
I experienced dizziness, close to being passed out, when I wore it the first time, and I had to struggle staying awake whenever wearing it from then on.

Zadius Sky, I too, recently purchased moldavite thinking that, since I started to feel quartz, I might feel this special "vibe" from moldavite. But I don't feel anything. Maybe the peice is too small, or maybe it is fake.

Fake Moldavite is indeed a big problem. Most moldavite on the market is fake. I paid for 2 tiny pieces of Moldavite and Lybian Glass $24. It seemed like a lot of money for such a tiny piece.

Zadius Sky said:
For me now, I particularly like quartz crystals as a focus for meditating, and selenite for its beauty. :)
I also enjoy selenite :-)

In the Knowledge and Being part5 Video, Laura said:
This is a very heavy solid, brass bowl and a crystal; one solid crystal; second crystal; a chunk of solid amethyst; bowl. Now, I would wash it carefully and put purified water in it and sit it out in the sun for a day. Then I would bring it inside and sit it down where you could see it on the treadmill. And while you are on the treadmill you are visualizing your outcome, and remember, you’re not visualizing the actual outcome, you’re visualizing how you feel and how you share that feeling with other people when the outcome is perfect. The universe has taken care of you – that’s all you’re visualizing.

So you’re on the treadmill and got your eyes closed because it’s kind of important when you start off to have your eyes closed to get your visualization going, and you start pumping that treadmill. You can increase the speed to where you are walking really fast or maybe even a little lope, almost a run – very, very fast – generating electricity visualizing this outcome, and then you open your eyes and you project it into those crystals.

Why? Crystals are piezoelectric. When you’re not actively generating the energy, they will sit there and passively generate it for you. They are like capacitors and you are putting that visualization into them in a capacitor-like way – like a trickle charge – so that when you are not actively on the treadmill; and I mean come on, five minutes a day; the crystals keep holding the electromagnetic image of the outcome of your visualization, and if you have 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 people in a house that do that 5 minutes a day, each from their own frequency energetic perspective, things start to happen.

Yes, crystals help us transmute our thoughts into forms. I noticed this effect in my life. To use treadmill is a great idea! Or maybe we can wear a clear quartz, for example, on our chest as a pendant and project our thoughts on it while doing other kind of activities outside the house. I don't know about brass bowl, but I know that copper is used in crystal wands because it has an ability to pass the electric current form a hand to a crystal on a tip of a wand.

SummerLite, I have never owned or used any sculls. But I came across of this video. I don't know if the lady makes valid statements in this video, or not.
 

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I actually sat in a session, with a friend, with Max, one of the original 13 crystal skulls. I met JoAnn Parks and she told this story:
http://www.crystalskulls.com/max-crystal-skull.html

The semi-private session lasted about 20 minutes and I did experience some imaging that was unusual, such as spiraling out and away from the earth until it disappeared. My friend said I had a family member present (one I had not had contact with for 20 or so years). I think she was more open than I was. I did purchase a small skull, took it home and asked what its name was...and it told me. SO...that being said, I came away with "possibles" rather than some profound experience that changed my life. I am by nature a bit of a skeptic but willing to try new things. We did not do the chakra thingies in the video.
 
Εἰρήvη said:
Zadius Sky, I too, recently purchased moldavite thinking that, since I started to feel quartz, I might feel this special "vibe" from moldavite. But I don't feel anything. Maybe the peice is too small, or maybe it is fake.

Fake Moldavite is indeed a big problem. Most moldavite on the market is fake. I paid for 2 tiny pieces of Moldavite and Lybian Glass $24. It seemed like a lot of money for such a tiny piece.

I had the similar problem. I bought a "moldavite" and felt nothing. I tried order another moldavite from a trustworthy seller (a top rated seller on ebay). The moldavite is small but I feel the energy/vibration.

I would like to recomend you a guide How to identiffy natural moldavites and fakes (http://www.aboutmoldavites.com/books/).
I read in the book that more than 75% moldavites on the market are fakes :(
Fortunately I know now hot to spot a fake ;) If you want, I can try to veriffy a stone from an image. Just insert photo of the moldavite here...
 
Fran said:
Εἰρήvη said:
Zadius Sky, I too, recently purchased moldavite thinking that, since I started to feel quartz, I might feel this special "vibe" from moldavite. But I don't feel anything. Maybe the peice is too small, or maybe it is fake.

Fake Moldavite is indeed a big problem. Most moldavite on the market is fake. I paid for 2 tiny pieces of Moldavite and Lybian Glass $24. It seemed like a lot of money for such a tiny piece.

I had the similar problem. I bought a "moldavite" and felt nothing. I tried order another moldavite from a trustworthy seller (a top rated seller on ebay). The moldavite is small but I feel the energy/vibration.

I would like to recomend you a guide How to identiffy natural moldavites and fakes (http://www.aboutmoldavites.com/books/).
I read in the book that more than 75% moldavites on the market are fakes :(
Fortunately I know now hot to spot a fake ;) If you want, I can try to veriffy a stone from an image. Just insert photo of the moldavite here...
Hi Fran, thank you very much for your input. I read how people are describing moldavite energy and how to spot a fake moldavite. I did not read that book you recommended though. Unfortunately I am still not sure about mine. Could you please take a look at the picture that I attached to my previous post.

How would you describe moldavite's energy?
 
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