More clarification needed of the Planets and the Stars...

[dant]

I am, after have reading the Wave, Adventures series, and many other
readings, now reviewing the sessions and slowly picking up everything
I can and trying to understand some things that are not immediately clear.

Taken from session: 950304, there is a short discussion regarding how
different densities are able to perceive the planets and the stars as follows:

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Q: (L) Okay, then let's just drop it. (J) It is, it was, it always will be, world without end, amen! (F) Well, if there is no time as we are
told, and there is free will that is so important, how can this be? If there is no time and everything is connected, past, present and future,
and everything is just a random collection of thoughts and experiences, and everything is supposed to be fluid, then there can't ever have
been free will. If there is free will, and there is no past, present or future, and everything is all the same point in space time experience,
the key is the free will, but there is no answer. (L) Is the planet earth, as so many have predicted, going to acquire an additional sun?
A: Maybe.
Q: (T) An additional sun, like if Jupiter blows up? Is Jupiter an unborn sun?
A: Jupiter is already a star.
Q: (L) Why do we not perceive it as a star?
A: You are still learning. Earth is a star to be.
Q: (F) How the hell can that be? (L) If a planet...
A: Every thing cycles fully.
Q: (L) If a star is a transition point from one dimension to another, when the earth moves into 4th density, is it going to appear as a star
to the people in 3rd density?
A: "Gas planet."
Q: (L) It will appear as a gas planet? (J) Just as Jupiter appears to us.
A: Jupiter is level 4 density.
Q: (L) To whom does Jupiter appear as a flaming sun, at what level?
A: 5, 6, and 7.
Q: (T) What does it look like in 4th?
A: Earth.
Q: (T) Jupiter looks like Earth and Earth looks like Jupiter in 4th density?
A: No.
Q: (L) What does Earth look like in 4th density?
A: Invisible.
Q: (J) Huh? (L) What do you mean, invisible?
A: Only visible upon request. Variability of physicality.
Q: (L) Okay, does this mean that to the Lizzies and Orions the earth is invisible?
A: When they are not thinking about it.
Q: (J) You mean when they are not thinking about it it doesn't exist? They have to focus on it for it to become visible?
A: Close.
Q: (T) But, you told us one time that everyone in 4th density was able to see us?
A: Yes.
Q: (J) Us, not earth. (T) What do they see us on?
A: Able to see you when they choose to.
Q: (J) In other words, they focus on the frequency to see us. (L) I guess it is like animals in second density. You ride down the road and
don't really see what is around you unless you focus in on it. (J) Unless you concentrate on looking for them... (T) Like standing still in a
forest and after a time you can see what is there. (J) It is all according to perception.
A: Yes, but 4th level is the first one with true variability.
Q: (L) Georges Gurdjieff proposed the idea that the earth is, in a sense, food for the moon. What he meant was, what he had learned
from these ancient teachers was that earth was a food source for some level of being, and that possibly these beings had encampments
or bases on the moon, but that earth was eventually to become a star and that then the moon would become an inhabited planet as the
earth was, and so on... Is this a fairly...
A: Close.
Q: (L) Is the Moon a second density planet?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And the Moon is used as a base by other beings?
A: On different densities.
Q: (L) Are there 2nd density beings that inhabit the moon in a full time way?
A: No.
Q: (T) Are there 3rd density beings?
A: No.
Q: (T) Are there 4th density beings?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Are they Grays?
A: They don't inhabit the moon, they just use it.
Q: (T) Are there 5th density beings there?
A: 5th uses all.
Q: (T) Are there 6th density beings there?
A: Ditto.
Q: (T) Is the 7th density being there?
A: That is union with the One.
Q: (T) Thank you, just checking. (L) The "Arcturians" talk about the path to the Great Central Sun. What is the Great Central Sun, and
what does this mean, "The path to the Great Central Sun?"
A: 7th level.
Q: (L) Is the star, Arcturus, also a residence, as in planet, for certain beings?
A: Stars are transition and communication points.
Q: (L) The book, "We Are the Arcturians", talks about the Arcturians, and it says that they live on the star Arcturus, that it is a planet for
them, and that they have families, reproduce, and do all kinds of normal things. This struck me as strange and reminded me of the Jiles
Hamilton stuff.
...

Oh... more about the sun:

Q: (L) Could you describe for us the interior of our sun and how it works?
A: It is a window.
Q: (L) The interior of the sun is a window. Okay, is the interior of the sun composed of what we would call solid matter?
A: No.
Q: (L) The general idea is that the interior of the sun is composed of great masses of hydrogen and this is converting to helium and...
A: In 3rd density perception.
Q: (L) You are saying that the sun is a window or transmission point between dimensions. If that is the case, then it is virtually illimitable
in terms of longevity?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So, the ideas of the sun running out of gas and turning into a red giant and sauteing humanity are incorrect concepts?
A: No. 3rd level, Laura, 3rd level!
Q: (L) So, in 3rd level it will...
A: Open.

What I am missing here, is that of the Sun. There is no discussion yet regarding the sun and it's
purpose. I know that we, in 3rd density believe the sun to be a star and not that of a planet. So,
how is the sun seen at by those at different densities or rather what is the sun's purpose? Is the
sun itself a 'transfer and communications' portal or a gateway to other star systems or dimensions
or other realities?

 

[Appollynon]

What Iam missing here, is that of the Sun

Im not sure I understand what you mean by this Dant? I found your question a little confusing as to what of the Sun are you missing?

You say that there is no discussion yet as to the sun and its purpose, yet the trancript you have quoted form the C's, gives the C's answer to that very question. They allude to the sun being like a window, and Laura has the idea that it may be a transmission point between densities, which is then confirmed to a degree by the C's saying "Close". I dont think the C's expanded on the exlanation as it may be beyond our comprehension as to the purposes or uses of the the suns/stars, but they have given a hint for those who wish to research more.

Have you ever seen some of the unsual images captured form the SOHO cameras? Many of these images seem to show some form of ships zipping around the sun and sometimes firing things at the sun or each other. Maybe this is a good indicator toward there being truth behind the C's Window answer.

Im thinking about the simplistic reasons for normal windows in a house. They are primarily made to let light-energy reach into a home and illuminate the darkness, they can also be opened and things can pass through both ways. Maybe this is what the C's were alluding to in a simplistic way we can understand.

As I understand the universe the Stars are what every planet can potentially become, but that depends on how much energy is gathered by the planet from outside to help it grow into one. If we were in a higher density then maybe we would see planets as just fledgling/baby stars with the potential to become larger stars.

 

[Tigersoap]

A bit out of topic but that strikes me as odd.

In a book from Alastair Reynolds, that's a bit of a spoiler what I am going to type so if you want to check out one the best (imho) SF writer of today, don't read this :

A neutron star is some kind of super computer which can communicate with his past and future self, an ancient alien race is living within it but not under any physical form anymore.
If I am not mistaken, all the other star like this one communicate between themselves.

 

[Cyre2067]

Appol for some reason i didn't get the window bit until you explained it. Thanks.

It makes sense, that if you have 7th density being Infinite energy, and a 3D physical realm such as ours you'd need a window to allow the light to pass from one plane to the other. It's like light coming inside the home from outside. Esp since life on earth wouldn't be possible without the sun, without energy seeping through from 7th Density.

Intriguing.

Edit: Apol, can u link me to some of these SOHO images you mentioned?

 

[Appollynon]

I have a small catalogue of those images on my work CPU, but I got a lot of them from the Surfingtheapocalypse website and this neat little place.

http://www.starshipgamma.com/soho/

The guy who runs this site has an extensive archive of anomalies, wave patterns and geometric symbol type wave forms form around the sun. He has also taken the time to blow up and analyse further some of the pics. I'd link to some of them on photobucket if had more time today to upload them and write more on the forum, but with only an hour in the office left and a deadline to meet, Ive only got time for a quick little message.I'll endevour to post the link to one or two in the moring (UK time around 8am) but to get a better idea of what I mean you should check out starshipgamma as they have a wealth of pics there that will shock and amaze you.

Hmmm intelligent stars...so the comic books were right all along hehehe. Thanks for the info Tigersoap, stars communicating with other stars sounds pretty neat, I wonder if it would have something to do with the gravity waves they give off, or something else completely.

 

[Russ]

The C's also said that this planet is a window, and that we have windows too.

I think they mean window of perception, could be wrong though. But if thats the case, Earth is a large window by virtue of the life forms inhabiting it - lots of little windows. These windows also seem to be two way, maybe the more that can go into a window, the more that can go out. It makes sense to me.

 

[dant]

Im not sure I understand what you mean by this Dant? I found your
question a little confusing as to what of the Sun are you missing?

You are right, it is confusing because I did not clarify my question after
adding [editing in] in the C's description of the Sun as a "window".

The C's have pointed out that Jupiter is a 'star' and from our perspective,
it is a giant gas planet. The C's have pointed out to us that this gas planet,
Jupiter is actually a star, and seen to them as a flaming sun. This is of course
very surprising on just how different densities interpret what they see.

I would venture to guess, that all densities, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 see the sun
as a very bright "light source", assuming that they have "eyes" to see
but other "objects" such as planets - the interpretation may vary according
to your density.

So, when I see a planet, I perhaps should (re)align my understanding in
terms of each of the planet's known environent - the so-called medium that
is capable of supporting the 1-6th densities which inhabits these planets? I
am not sure about the sun itself as it is, perhaps the domain of the 7th
density only? Is this why the 6th say it is a "window" because that is their
perspective? Is this a fair analysis?

If I dare to be bold, I wonder if the medium we call 'air' is the very
substance which provides for our limited perspectives since it can block
or limits us from seeing, hearing, or discerning what reality is until we have
searched for the truths via our minds and actions. What we see, what we hear,
what we sense is all encapsulated within this medium we call 'air' and it was not
until we were able to venture into space, or within ourselves that we were able
to reshape our realities, thus expanding our knowledge?

I am perhaps stretching it, but perhaps suns are 7th density energy
sources which make all other densities possible? The interesting thing
here is that since there are many, many suns in each galaxy and many,
many galaxies, perhaps these are but the many 7th density sources that
penetrate the blackness which we call space? Seems to look more and
more like the Ying/Yang model for which everything is, but light and dark
competing to it itself towards total balance and harmony.

So - that is why I wanted to know - exactly - what is the role/purpose of
the sun - and I provided some thought on this above.

 

[Appollynon]

Thanks for clarifying what your question was specifically regarding the sun Dant. I'm not really qualified myself to be able to give you a definitive answer as I don't pretend to know or understand very much of the physiscs involved with the stars. However I have done some reading on site and on the internet about the theory of the sun being electric and maybe not driven by the fusion reactions we have been told about from the MSM and mainstream science for some time, it worth researching if your interested.

As for how other densities would classify the sun I'm again not so sure as I seem to remeber the C's commenting to Laura that in the 4 Density you can literallly see sound and feel colour, so I guess it would depend on perceptions at those level. I would hazard a guess that nobody can say for sure on our density what the stars look like in other densities as none of us have been there to experience and verify our theories for ourselves.

I agree that the C's describe the sun as a window as it is how they see it, or choose to describe its function, but they were also likely simplifying things for our limited 3D consiousness to understand.

Perhaps your assumption about the suns being 7th density sources of life for the other densities, but IMO knowone can say that they know for certain whether this could be true or not as we have no proof or way of testing the theory.

Here's some of the pics of what look to be ships of some kind around the sun, that I had promised Cyre2067 I would upload.

Also one here of a pyramidal type wave structure emanating from the suns surface.

 

[PopHistorian]

dant wrote:

I am, after have reading the Wave, Adventures series, and many other readings

Have you read The Ra Material? Book I contains loads about Ra's interpretation of what the stars and planets are. Most or all of Book I is here: http://www(dot)exclave.org/lo.html

Loads more about the dodgy Arcturian source noted in the session transcript you quoted above is here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2901

 

[dant]

Thanks AdPoP!