Music in other densities

D Rusak

Jedi Council Member
Hi all,

I was wondering about how music works on other density levels. As far as I've been able to tell, the C's know about music (big Rodgers and Hammerstein fans that they are), so it must exist somehow. They talked about seeing sounds and hearing colors (950114). I think there's also been mention of focused-sound technology (am I wrong on this one?). Music isn't exactly a physical phenomenon, so I sort of see how it would work on 4th density (variable physicality, anyone?) but am not sure how it would work in detail, or on other levels. Some ideas I have are perhaps accessing some "memory"(yes, there's no time)/idea/source of other musical ideas, or transmitting music by telepathic means. I'm stuck on this one, and am just curious because I devote most of my time in this level to this art. (PS-Sorry about all the parenthetical remarks.)
 
Hi,

I don't have any musical talent worth speaking of myself, however I have often discussed aspects of music with a friend who has a particularly good ear and is able to identify particular notes (perfect pitch) with good accuracy. This particular friend also once told me of another person who he claimed had absolutely perfect pitch, by this I mean being able to instantly pick out the correct notes in chords just by hearing them once, and what's more this person claimed when he heard music it was almost as if he could see or visualise different notes as different colours. I also remember my friend saying that this ability manifested itself from a very young age in this particular person. It's somewhat reminiscent of what the C's said. I guess it begs the question that perhaps people did have these abilities to see sounds or hear colours, for example, but they have either been lost by the vast majority of people or perhaps 4th density beings have interfered with this ability?

John
 
Lotus said:
I don't have any musical talent worth speaking of myself, however I have often discussed aspects of music with a friend who has a particularly good ear and is able to identify particular notes (perfect pitch) with good accuracy.
This particular friend also once told me of another person who he claimed had absolutely perfect pitch, by this I mean being able to instantly pick out the correct notes in chords just by hearing them once,
Actually, any classically (and most jazz or other, although I've personally only taken a limited amount of these studies) musician should be able to tell you the correct note in a chord. After all, we don't go through years of ear-training classes for nothing! "Perfect pitch" refers to the ability of one to hear a note and name it (A, B flat, etc) or the reverse, e.g., state a note, and then sing it accurately. This ability is generally evident at a very young age. Many musicians who are not born with perfect pitch develop good to excellent "relative pitch", which is quite similar, resulting from the repetition of and familiarity with various pitches.

Lotus said:
and what's more this person claimed when he heard music it was almost as if he could see or visualise different notes as different colours.
This phenomenon is referred to as synaesthesia. Many well-known composers have reported "seeing" sounds (the one that comes to mind is Messiaen, who had a whole complex of pitch "modes" that he described in multiple colors).

Lotus said:
It's somewhat reminiscent of what the C's said. I guess it begs the question that perhaps people did have these abilities to see sounds or hear colours, for example, but they have either been lost by the vast majority of people or perhaps 4th density beings have interfered with this ability?
I decided to look up a definition of synaesthesia and I found it very interesting that some hallucinogens enhance one's synaesthetic abilities. I assume this to mean that humans have at least some capacity for this?
 
There are numerous accounts from those who have had "near-death experiences" (NDEs) which describe the ethereal-sounding music which was present during the experience. I know of one musician who, after having heard such music, went on to compose music which emulated the music heard during his NDE. He admits, however, that it is only a "shadow" of the music which was really heard during the experience -- a comment that points to the idea that things which manifest in lower densities do so in a greatly limited form. This is also supported by the NDE of a young child, who, upon returning to Third Density, asked why there were so many more notes "between the notes that we hear" on Earth. The range of colours, also, are reported in many NDE accounts to be far more abundant in "higher" realities. So it would seem that colour and music are very closely associated.

Since the "dimension" in which these people exist during their NDE is probably somewhere between Third and Fifth Density (or perhaps it actually is part of Fifth Density), then it follows that music can indeed be heard in higher densities. But since music is an unfolding of sounds over time, music is time-dependent, which begs the question of how it can exist in a timeless state.
 
D Rusak said:
"Perfect pitch" refers to the ability of one to hear a note and name it (A, B flat, etc) or the reverse, e.g., state a note, and then sing it accurately. This ability is generally evident at a very young age. Many musicians who are not born with perfect pitch develop good to excellent "relative pitch", which is quite similar, resulting from the repetition of and familiarity with various pitches.
Thanks for this explanation. I guess I have "relative pitch." I had to work very hard to learn the piano, and can't do much of anything without notes in front of me. Eye-hand respons/coordination was very good until my accident when somehow, I lost something there. (Even began transposing letters and numbers when I write, so have to be very watchful about that). I can sing, (and am told that I sing well, though it is in the style and range of Patsy Cline, though she was much better and could do things with her voice that I can't do unless I'm catching a cold), but I could never tell you the names of the notes. I just am able to produce the right ones. I have observed my children singing. My eldest daughter has mastery of her voice that is stunning. She really ought to sing professionally. My youngest daughter also, who has a natural operatic voice. But my other children don't seem to have gotten that gene I guess. My son can do fantastic renditions of things that don't require much vocal control (he is famous for his "The Devil Went Down To Georgia"), and he mastered the basics of the violin in a few short weeks, (he has great manual skill too), and can play some bits and pieces of classical guitar, but he can't carry a tune in a leather sack! I don't know why.

When we do karaoke, I often sing with him, and cue his notes for him, but it seems to be something between the ear and the muscular control of the vocal chords. I'm still trying to figure it out. I just tell them to sing along with the radio a lot, and then sing in private and try to hear what you are singing and make it sound like what you have heard by playing with the voice, moving the sound up and down. I hope that will help them to achieve some learned control of the necessary muscles. I explain that I don't always get the right sound, and then I do it again and again until I do and then I have learned that particular "throat action." I DO think it can be learned.

Ark, on the other hand, has what seems to be "perfect pitch" though I'm not sure he can NAME the notes. But if he hears a piece of music, even if I sing it to him or he hears the melody on the radio, he can sit down at the piano and unerringly play the tune, and within a few minutes, produce a complete rendition with full bass and chord arrangment, followed by numerous variations on the theme. He "plays by ear," that is. I really envy this ability!

On the subject of higher density sounds, I've always thought that the sun and planets (and the stars and even galaxies) produce sounds - or would if there was a carrying medium. I always wanted to hear what the sun sounded like as pulsates and vibrates. About a week ago, I found an article that we put on Signs, where it was said that just prior to going supernova, a star produces a sound that is equivalent to Middle C. Apparently, they are thinking that it is the sound that induces the explosion. Well, if a supernova is a mini-big bang, it gives all new meaning to "In the Beginning was the Word..." They don't know yet, however, where this sound comes from exactly.
 
Perfect pitch is 'objective,' not relative.

It's the ability to sing a perfect C major (or whatever) without a reference.

I have this facility - it's certainly nothing I've developed in my myself.

I can sing the first note of any tune I know, then I'll put the CD of it on - it'll be the same.

I think it's just a function of memory.

Although I'm highly musical, my dexterity with instruments is not that great. Although I play great, clangy Syd Barrett-style guitar my keyboard work is much like that of a two-finger desk sergeant.

I prefer good old computers myself.
 
By the way, is music specific to densities?

I read the Cassiopaean stuff about the synaesthetic qualities of music in 4th density, but is there much of 3D about music anyway?

I've always though of music as being of a slightly higher realm.
 
I read a series of articles years ago, which I will try to locate again, that followed the development of a few autistic children - one who was a musical savant and saw music as colors - another was a mathematical savant who saw numbers as colors, which is a truly cool concept.
 
Laura said:
it was said that just prior to going supernova, a star produces a sound that is equivalent to Middle C. Apparently, they are thinking that it is the sound that induces the explosion.
oh boy! hahaha i am giggling with glee about this! looks like ive got a new song to write!
 
Laura said:
On the subject of higher density sounds, I've always thought that the sun and planets (and the stars and even galaxies) produce sounds - or would if there was a carrying medium. I always wanted to hear what the sun sounded like as pulsates and vibrates. About a week ago, I found an article that we put on Signs, where it was said that just prior to going supernova, a star produces a sound that is equivalent to Middle C. Apparently, they are thinking that it is the sound that induces the explosion. Well, if a supernova is a mini-big bang, it gives all new meaning to "In the Beginning was the Word..." They don't know yet, however, where this sound comes from exactly.
Dear Laura,
Thanks for sharing your family's musical experiences. It made me smile alot. I am a trained opera singer and have advanced degrees in music. I can appreciate everything you talk about. Too bad you don't live in my neck of the woods, I would be happy to give your daughter voice lessons for free. I giggled when you said you sing kind of like Patsy Cline, cause she was my dad's favorite american singer... :) I wonder what is with Polish people (you might want to ask the C's) the ones I have met seem to have some special abilities. Ask Ark about Teresa Kubiak, famous polish soprano, she is amazing, not just as a singer but also as a person. I feel lucky to count her as a friend. Right now, I have a voice student from Poland, who is a physisist(sp?) and crazy about opera. He has the uncunny ability to memorize entire opera librettos... I mean, I sing opera, and have my method for memorization and yet find it hard to memorize my own parts... less all the parts of everyone else. When i sang Hoffmann in the Tales of Hoffmann, I had 42 cue cards of just my lines... HAHAHa... I also knew someone from Hungary with phenomenal musical abilities in the fields of early music and music aspects that most classical musicians simply never think about.

In my case, I don't have perfect pitch. I have excellent relative pitch which I use for my work especially when I do new music, that is classical music composed in the 20th and 21st century. It's for everything, but there are musics that are especially taxing, I find this to be true with new music and early music. The music of J. S. Bach for example it's taxing to everyone. The strange thing is, since I was a little boy, I was able to see colors when music was played. It is clearer when chords are sustained and the modulate. Individual notes can have their own colors. For example, I always see orange when I hear Eb major chord, Green on Dbmajor, Red on G major, blue n A minor, I also see red on C minor but different shade that G major. C tends to be whiteish, and so forth and so on. It is pretty consistant though. Yellow in F major. Anyway... but as a kid, I just saw colors, and didn't know why I saw them when I heard music. I never studied music formally until I was a teenager.

In music history we are taught about the medieval concept of "music the spheres," and all ancient musicians and composers thought they could hear the universe in a never ending symphony. Music was not just an art but a science, and as such it was very closely related to mathematics, astronomy and other such diciplines.

It doesn't surprise me at all that the C's like Rogers and Hammerstein, I forgot which musical was their favorite. My first Broadway musical was "yje King and I, I played Lun-tha, the young love interest... lol anyway... I am so glad this topic is here... Aside from all the seemingly bad stuff that is out there, there is also so much beauty. It would be nice to be in 6 density to appreciate it even more.
 
jake tassell said:
By the way, is music specific to densities?

I read the Cassiopaean stuff about the synaesthetic qualities of music in 4th density, but is there much of 3D about music anyway?

I've always though of music as being of a slightly higher realm.
Could you point me toward that article, about Synaesthetic qualities of music in 4th density? I do agree with you. When I do music, I don't feel I am here. I have never felt the need to use drugs to lift myself to a differen realm. All I have to do is sit at the piano, pick up an instrument or just simply sing. It takes you away. As a opera singer, I also wondered about the vibrations we make with our vocal chords. So many times I feel that the whole body changes with the resonance energy that is created, and I have noticed how sometimes it is difficult to think rationally when I sing. By this I mean, the controling side of my brain is quiet down. The knowledge that comes in instead is one one can feel, interpret as message but not exactly express into words. It's almost like telepathic comunication. I wonder if anyone here has those experiences. I most definitelly know f this when i have done recitals and sometimes something changes in the music, and either my accompanist or I decide in the spur of the moment to do something radically different, and he or I know exactly what the other is going to do without missing a beat... pretty cool stuff.
 
Laura said:
On the subject of higher density sounds, I've always thought that the sun and planets (and the stars and even galaxies) produce sounds - or would if there was a carrying medium. I always wanted to hear what the sun sounded like as pulsates and vibrates. About a week ago, I found an article that we put on Signs, where it was said that just prior to going supernova, a star produces a sound that is equivalent to Middle C. Apparently, they are thinking that it is the sound that induces the explosion. Well, if a supernova is a mini-big bang, it gives all new meaning to "In the Beginning was the Word..." They don't know yet, however, where this sound comes from exactly.
Mmm, yeah, the Music of the Spheres. I always thought that, too. Once or twice I thought I heard that music some years ago in a heightened state of imagination.
 
Now that I think of it, it was less what you were talking about, with the celestial object emitting music, no doubt they do, but the actual turning of spheres. I felt I could hear music produced by the spheres turning. I must have been influenced by the medieval cosmology I picked up from C.S. Lewis's The Discarded Image. So maybe it was just imagination...

DonaldJHunt said:
Laura said:
On the subject of higher density sounds, I've always thought that the sun and planets (and the stars and even galaxies) produce sounds - or would if there was a carrying medium. I always wanted to hear what the sun sounded like as pulsates and vibrates. About a week ago, I found an article that we put on Signs, where it was said that just prior to going supernova, a star produces a sound that is equivalent to Middle C. Apparently, they are thinking that it is the sound that induces the explosion. Well, if a supernova is a mini-big bang, it gives all new meaning to "In the Beginning was the Word..." They don't know yet, however, where this sound comes from exactly.
Mmm, yeah, the Music of the Spheres. I always thought that, too. Once or twice I thought I heard that music some years ago in a heightened state of imagination.
 
DonaldJHunt said:
Now that I think of it, it was less what you were talking about, with the celestial object emitting music, no doubt they do, but the actual turning of spheres. I felt I could hear music produced by the spheres turning. I must have been influenced by the medieval cosmology I picked up from C.S. Lewis's The Discarded Image. So maybe it was just imagination...
Amazing what the imagination with a little bit of help can do, huh? I don't know though. Lately theorists have been talking about "string" theory, and music or vibration at the quantum level... so maybe you did hear what you heard, maybe not... but isn't fun thinking about it?
 
DonaldJHunt said:
Laura said:
On the subject of higher density sounds, I've always thought that the sun and planets (and the stars and even galaxies) produce sounds - or would if there was a carrying medium. I always wanted to hear what the sun sounded like as pulsates and vibrates. About a week ago, I found an article that we put on Signs, where it was said that just prior to going supernova, a star produces a sound that is equivalent to Middle C. Apparently, they are thinking that it is the sound that induces the explosion. Well, if a supernova is a mini-big bang, it gives all new meaning to "In the Beginning was the Word..." They don't know yet, however, where this sound comes from exactly.
Mmm, yeah, the Music of the Spheres. I always thought that, too. Once or twice I thought I heard that music some years ago in a heightened state of imagination.
Sorry to bump oldish threads, i've only just joined and been reading through the forums..
This reminded me of this old article:

"Ultrabass Sounds of the Giant Star xi Hya"
http://www.eso.org/outreach/press-rel/pr-2002/pr-10-02.html

That thing in the "middle C" article about the sound actually causing the explosion is really interesting.
 
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