My friend has a lung tumor

jeff

The Force is Strong With This One
Hello,

I'm very sad because a friend, who is 22 years old has a lung tumor. She is French but of Palestinian origin. I'm very distressed and I don't really know what to do. I advised her to try to eat healthy food, to take supplement (vit C, vit D, magnesium, to stop to eat gluten and dairy) to practise EE and to have a positive mental attitude. I called a friend who maybe knows people who works on energy...
Doctors wants her to start a chemotherapy but she refuses.

I think and she agree with me, that her tumor is connected to the death of her father, in 1993, and many members of her family in Palestine...This is a very sad story.

In your point of view, what can I do?
:(
 
jeff,

I'm really sorry to hear about your friend. That is such a young age to be going through a bout of cancer! :scared:

I don't really feel qualified to give advise on treating cancer, but maybe Psyche or some of the others on here have more experience in this regard. It sounds like the information on diet and supplements you gave her is a pretty good start.
 
RyanX said:
jeff,

I'm really sorry to hear about your friend. That is such a young age to be going through a bout of cancer! :scared:

I don't really feel qualified to give advise on treating cancer, but maybe Psyche or some of the others on here have more experience in this regard. It sounds like the information on diet and supplements you gave her is a pretty good start.

I don't feel qualified, either, but want to add my condolences about this horrible situation your friend is in.

I think that what will not hurt is as you have suggested, quit wheat, dairy, corn, soy, sugar, corn syrup and other related sweeteners, imitation sweeteners and to start eating healthy foods, maybe going on the elimination diet. Doing the EE program, I'm sure that there is a lot of repressed emotions due to the death of her father and what her country is going through, even though she doesn't live there, along with her having a lung tumor.

Large doses of Vit. C. is also good along with the vit. D3, both of which you have suggested to her.

Maybe these things will help, but as for a cure, I don't know. Hang in there. Maybe someone else has some better advice.
 
jeff said:
Hello,

I'm very sad because a friend, who is 22 years old has a lung tumor. She is French but of Palestinian origin. I'm very distressed and I don't really know what to do. I advised her to try to eat healthy food, to take supplement (vit C, vit D, magnesium, to stop to eat gluten and dairy) to practise EE and to have a positive mental attitude. I called a friend who maybe knows people who works on energy...
Doctors wants her to start a chemotherapy but she refuses.

I think and she agree with me, that her tumor is connected to the death of her father, in 1993, and many members of her family in Palestine...This is a very sad story.

In your point of view, what can I do?
:(

Hi Jeff,

Data has compiled a list of SOTT articles dealing with cancer. Maybe you'll have time to go through this list and gather some nutritional / therapeutic / psychological guidelines for your friend.

I guess an important first step would be to clearly identify the cause(s) of this cancer in order to apply the proper strategies that will treat the(o)se cause(s).

Your friend might be onto something when she mentions her father. At least there are some similarities with what Louise Hay says about the meaning of lung cancer:

For example, Lung Cancer would be unresolved grief as it relates to the father on earth and/or unresolved grief over the separation from the Father in Heaven.

There might be some similarities with what I recently went through (phase III brain cancer). This topic is partly addressed in this excerpt (bolding mine):


http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12958.0 said:
(L) Let's save that for later. We'll go to P***. (J) Is P***'s tumor malignant?

A: No.

Q: (G) Is it a glioma?

A: No. Something in between.

Q: (A**) Is it curable?

A: Anything is curable with the right action within and without.

Q: (A*l) So what can we do to help him?

A: It's up to him to decide.

Q: (Allen) Since I recommended reading Bernie Siegel, would the stuff that he suggests help?

A: Absolutely. But that will not be so simple for P** who tends to escapism.

Q: (DD) Will the chiropractic help him?

A: Chiropractic will help a little. Meditating in the way you are preparing to teach will help a lot especially with the intentional assimilation of the "Prayer of the Soul."

Q: (C) What about chemotherapy - is it necessary?

A: If he wants to check out sooner.

Q: (A**) What about getting angry? Would it help him to get angry at his {childhood abuse} in a real way, or is it too late for that?

A: It's not too late but that is not the problem at the deepest level.

Q: (L) What is the problem at the deepest level?

A: Grief for not being protected and cherished. He needs to grieve
.


And those observations were spot-on. Far more spot-on actually than what I thought at the time of the session.

So we can see that the EE program in general and the "intentional assimilation of the Prayer" can help very much (they did!). Here is a link to the Prayer in French.


And the deepest problem is grieving.

Intellectually, grieving is very simple, it's like turning a page. Emotionally it's long and excruciating, it's like dying. Actually I believe that one part of you really dies. In my case it was the death of the illusion of the love of my parents. For your friend it's the end of her life with her father but it's not her death.

With my personal process in mind, I will try to apply this grieving process to your friend's case.

It's as if you grieve every aspect of your relation with your father one by one. You remember one aspect / one memory, then you dive in it / embrace it and feel/acknowledge with all the parts of your being that it is not part of the present reality anymore.

You see it as it is : you're acknowledging and feeling fully that this aspect/this fragment of your relationship is not here anymore, as if you cut one by one all the emotional strings that connected you to your father. It doesn't mean that you forget him, it means that you turn the page (emotional, unconscious...) from a world with your father to a world without your father.

The most important parts are emotional and unconscious. Emotionally it leads to rivers of tears, frustration, sadness, despair, feelings of unfairness, rage and anger. At the unconscious level, this process manifested strongly in dreams. Journaling them, feeling them, contemplating them might be a good idea.

Recently, I started to go beyond those overwhelming negative emotions and see some lights at the end of the tunnel. It's difficult to share this mostly emotional and unconscious process with words then I wrote a poem attempting to give a glimpse of what happened behind the intellect.
 
I'm really sorry to hear of your friend's difficulties, jeff. I agree with others here that improving her diet and taking supplements would be an excellent first step.

I recently came across this website which tells the story of a man named Vernon who claims to have cured prostate cancer using bicarbonate of soda. He claims that the bicarbonate worked by altering the pH balance of his body. His goal was to make the body extremely alkaline for a few days, and this was what killed off the cancer. It might be worth looking into, as a possible way to assist your friend. There are many people who claim to have cured their cancer by various means, which suggests that any cure is probably unique to each individual.

The first thing I thought of, reading your post, was that your friend's unexpressed grief for her father was killing her, and then I saw that Belibaste has written about it so beautifully that I have nothing to add.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
I think that what will not hurt is as you have suggested, quit wheat, dairy, corn, soy, sugar, corn syrup and other related sweeteners, imitation sweeteners and to start eating healthy foods, maybe going on the elimination diet.

Hi Jeff,

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Others have given you already very valuable information. But I wanted to recommend as well a book that is very useful in helping to process emotions: "Love, Medicine, and Miracles" by Bernie Siegel. It is the way that is written that is so touching, or so I think.

You'll find the modified elimination diet here:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg153781#msg153781

The next posts teaches how to re-introduce foods.

FWIW, this website has a review of most of the alternative therapies available for cancer:
http://www.cancertutor.com/

I send your friend and to you lots of courage and strength.
 
Hi Jeff,

My thoughts and prayers go to you and your friend. If she is receptive to the feedback that others have given you, I believe there is still a lot of hope.

Like the Cs said, "anything is curable with the right action within and without."

Hang in there! :flowers:
 
JEff, I am so sorry to hear about your friend. My mom was diagnosed with lung cancer a few years ago. She had a small lump with the left bottom lung removed, and she did not have to undergo chemotherapy. Could your friend have part of the lung removed instead of having a chemo? The surgery was quite severe, she had tubes coming out of her upper torso which was quite painful, she was in the hospital for two weeks. BUT she is OK now. The rest of her lung actually expanded and she does seem to go out of breath quicker than before when walking fast. You should also suggest to her to start doing a major detox; get her 'Detoxify or Die' book. There are many things she can do, cancer is not a death sentence. She will be OK, just don't lose hope.
 
Maybe the first point to clarify is: "does she really want to live?"

I'm not saying that in a sarcastic or ironic way. I would totally respect her choice (conscious or unconscious) to stop living, knowing how much suffering and trauma she had to endure as a 22 years old Palestinian woman.

I bring up this point because her refusal to go for chemotherapy can be understood in two ways.

Either she knows how detrimental and dangerous chemotherapy is and she made a conscious choice to refuse it in order to apply a better healing strategy, either she, consciously or not, refused the chemotherapy, dropping the "only cure" to check out faster.

As stated previously this process can be partly or even totally unconscious, so a bit of digging, if she agrees, might help to go beyond already prepared answers.
 
Belibaste said:
Maybe the first point to clarify is: "does she really want to live?"

I'm not saying that in a sarcastic or ironic way. I would totally respect her choice (conscious or unconscious) to stop living, knowing how much suffering and trauma she had to endure as a 22 years old Palestinian woman.

I bring up this point because her refusal to go for chemotherapy can be understood in two ways.

Either she knows how detrimental and dangerous chemotherapy is and she made a conscious choice to refuse it in order to apply a better healing strategy, either she, consciously or not, refused the chemotherapy, dropping the "only cure" to check out faster.

As stated previously this process can be partly or even totally unconscious, so a bit of digging, if she agrees, might help to go beyond already prepared answers.
That is a good question, Belibaste. Maybe she is hurting so much that she would rather check out quickly. I just hope that is not the case because there is hope.It just makes me sad :cry:that some young people feel this way. I used to go through terrible depressions as a young person and I wish I had had all this help that I find here on this forum back then. I would not have wasted so many sleepless nights crying myself to sleep, forcing myself to get up from my bed when I felt like dying all the time. It's terrible. I think no one should go through that. There is a hope here and I hope she chooses to live. There are people here that care and she is very lucky. A lot of people are not that lucky.
 
Thank you all for your replies,

I read all your anwers.

Unfortunately, I learnt wednesday that she had two others tumors: one in her belly and one in her neck... The doctor said that he could remove the belly tumor but only this one. She will surely start a chemotherapy. To answer your question Belibaste, she refused to start chemotherapy, because she felt too weak.... Maybe it is not the truth... It's difficult to know. She knew people who started a chemotherapy in the past and she know what it is. It will be her choice. I'm sure she will live...


Psyche said:
Nienna Eluch said:
I think that what will not hurt is as you have suggested, quit wheat, dairy, corn, soy, sugar, corn syrup and other related sweeteners, imitation sweeteners and to start eating healthy foods, maybe going on the elimination diet.

Hi Jeff,

I'm sorry to hear about your friend. Others have given you already very valuable information. But I wanted to recommend as well a book that is very useful in helping to process emotions: "Love, Medicine, and Miracles" by Bernie Siegel. It is the way that is written that is so touching, or so I think.

You'll find the modified elimination diet here:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg153781#msg153781

The next posts teaches how to re-introduce foods.

FWIW, this website has a review of most of the alternative therapies available for cancer:
http://www.cancertutor.com/

I send your friend and to you lots of courage and strength.

Thank you psyche,I will send her these links :)

Belibaste said:
jeff said:
Hello,

I'm very sad because a friend, who is 22 years old has a lung tumor. She is French but of Palestinian origin. I'm very distressed and I don't really know what to do. I advised her to try to eat healthy food, to take supplement (vit C, vit D, magnesium, to stop to eat gluten and dairy) to practise EE and to have a positive mental attitude. I called a friend who maybe knows people who works on energy...
Doctors wants her to start a chemotherapy but she refuses.

I think and she agree with me, that her tumor is connected to the death of her father, in 1993, and many members of her family in Palestine...This is a very sad story.

In your point of view, what can I do?
:(

Hi Jeff,

Data has compiled a list of SOTT articles dealing with cancer. Maybe you'll have time to go through this list and gather some nutritional / therapeutic / psychological guidelines for your friend.

I guess an important first step would be to clearly identify the cause(s) of this cancer in order to apply the proper strategies that will treat the(o)se cause(s).

Your friend might be onto something when she mentions her father. At least there are some similarities with what Louise Hay says about the meaning of lung cancer:

For example, Lung Cancer would be unresolved grief as it relates to the father on earth and/or unresolved grief over the separation from the Father in Heaven.

There might be some similarities with what I recently went through (phase III brain cancer). This topic is partly addressed in this excerpt (bolding mine):


http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12958.0 said:
(L) Let's save that for later. We'll go to P***. (J) Is P***'s tumor malignant?

A: No.

Q: (G) Is it a glioma?

A: No. Something in between.

Q: (A**) Is it curable?

A: Anything is curable with the right action within and without.

Q: (A*l) So what can we do to help him?

A: It's up to him to decide.

Q: (Allen) Since I recommended reading Bernie Siegel, would the stuff that he suggests help?

A: Absolutely. But that will not be so simple for P** who tends to escapism.

Q: (DD) Will the chiropractic help him?

A: Chiropractic will help a little. Meditating in the way you are preparing to teach will help a lot especially with the intentional assimilation of the "Prayer of the Soul."

Q: (C) What about chemotherapy - is it necessary?

A: If he wants to check out sooner.

Q: (A**) What about getting angry? Would it help him to get angry at his {childhood abuse} in a real way, or is it too late for that?

A: It's not too late but that is not the problem at the deepest level.

Q: (L) What is the problem at the deepest level?

A: Grief for not being protected and cherished. He needs to grieve
.


And those observations were spot-on. Far more spot-on actually than what I thought at the time of the session.

So we can see that the EE program in general and the "intentional assimilation of the Prayer" can help very much (they did!). Here is a link to the Prayer in French.


And the deepest problem is grieving.

Intellectually, grieving is very simple, it's like turning a page. Emotionally it's long and excruciating, it's like dying. Actually I believe that one part of you really dies. In my case it was the death of the illusion of the love of my parents. For your friend it's the end of her life with her father but it's not her death.

With my personal process in mind, I will try to apply this grieving process to your friend's case.

It's as if you grieve every aspect of your relation with your father one by one. You remember one aspect / one memory, then you dive in it / embrace it and feel/acknowledge with all the parts of your being that it is not part of the present reality anymore.

You see it as it is : you're acknowledging and feeling fully that this aspect/this fragment of your relationship is not here anymore, as if you cut one by one all the emotional strings that connected you to your father. It doesn't mean that you forget him, it means that you turn the page (emotional, unconscious...) from a world with your father to a world without your father.

The most important parts are emotional and unconscious. Emotionally it leads to rivers of tears, frustration, sadness, despair, feelings of unfairness, rage and anger. At the unconscious level, this process manifested strongly in dreams. Journaling them, feeling them, contemplating them might be a good idea.

Recently, I started to go beyond those overwhelming negative emotions and see some lights at the end of the tunnel. It's difficult to share this mostly emotional and unconscious process with words then I wrote a poem attempting to give a glimpse of what happened behind the intellect.

thanks Belibaste,


Wednesday evening I told her what you said about going through grieving process and she said that it was exactly what she was living. To be honest we already spoke more or less about grieving. In effect this quarter, I'm studying transgenerational psychology and it's exactly that. It appears that sometimes, people don't arrive to go through grieving process because they "incorporate" the dead person in order to to keep it alive. This "incorporated dead person", psychoanalytically speaking, is symbolised by a tomb, a crypt, a ghost, a living dead, in the "unconscious" of the people. Then, the "crypt" can be transmit to the descendants (it is possible to find many explanation to this phenomenon) and the the person who is suffering need to go through grieving process in order to recover... but it's a hard and unconscious process...

I'm not sure that my explanation is clear.

Belibaste, would you accept to to share your experience with her in an email ? I think it could reassure her. Tell me if you are ok.
 
Belibaste, would you accept to to share your experience with her in an email ? I think it could reassure her. Tell me if you are ok.

Yes, please use it.
 
hi jeff,
check out this testimony of a guy who cured his wife of cancer twice with ozone:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l9V9bIBfzM

also as suggested by others: megadoses of vitamin c.
this new product gives you the dosage of a vitamin c drip at the fraction of its cost. it's lypo-spheric vitamin c which is 98% absorbable. 3 or 4 packets of it per day (= $3 to $4) are equal to a drip for $120 or up. i highly recommend it:
_https://www.quick2you.com/store/index.cfm?frm=details&piid=1029

if she takes vit d - at least 5000IU per day. check out this video:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH1rB-Ya2UQ

if you have more questions. let me know.
pola
 
Hi pinkredpurple,

Welcome to the forum. :) We recommend all new members to post an introduction in the Newbies section telling us a bit about themselves, and how they found their way here. Have a read through that section to get an idea of how others have done it. Thanks.
 
pinkredpurple said:
hi jeff,
check out this testimony of a guy who cured his wife of cancer twice with ozone:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l9V9bIBfzM

He 'cured' his wife twice? If he cured his wife, then why did she have cancer again?
 
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