My Rant on Fruitarianism

[Cyre2067]

/rant on
This subject kinda hurts my brain. I'm constantly learning how ignorant people are and this one has to be a new low.

_http://www.fruitarianvibes.com/Fruitarian_Facts.html

The Fruitarian Diet

A Fruitarian is someone who eats predominantly fruit and ideally 100%. "Fruits" include all tree fruits, all berries, watermelons, vine fruits like kiwis and grapes and vegetable-fruits like tomatoes, peppers and cucumbers. Fruitarians living in tropical environments would consume coconuts although coconuts are often thought of as a nut.
Some Fruitarians will consume nuts and vegetables to a certain extent, although these rarely would be consumed in any great amount by a Fruitarian, however we promote a true fruitarian diet, 100% fruit with no nuts and no vegetables or greens.

Why Fruitarian?

To most Fruitarians, the diet is simply a natural progression, from omnivore to vegetarian, vegan, raw foods and finally Fruitarian. To some it is the chosen diet for health reasons. Others follow it because they believe humans were always destined to eat fruit, starting from the Garden of Eden.
The one thing that more Fruitarians mention above all others is a knowingness, an internal feeling that the Fruitarian diet is the diet meant for mankind.

Benefits of being Fruitarian

Cooked food is an unnatural human creation and is toxic to the body. Fruitarians eat 100% raw food as close as possible to its natural state. It is never possible to improve upon nature, a fact that many humans find hard to accept. When our diet is in harmony with nature, our health excels and our consciousness expands

:O They're straight up lying. "Cooked food in an unnatural human creation?" ----WHATTTTTT? Without cooked meat we wouldn't be talking, let alone having this discussion.

Meat-eating was essential for human evolution, says UC Berkeley anthropologist specializing in diet

By Patricia McBroom, Public Affairs


BERKELEY-- Human ancestors who roamed the dry and open savannas of Africa about 2 million years ago routinely began to include meat in their diets to compensate for a serious decline in the quality of plant foods, according to a physical anthropologist at the University of California, Berkeley.

It was this new meat diet, full of densely-packed nutrients, that provided the catalyst for human evolution, particularly the growth of the brain, said Katharine Milton, an authority on primate diet.

Without meat, said Milton, it's unlikely that proto humans could have secured enough energy and nutrition from the plants available in their African environment at that time to evolve into the active, sociable, intelligent creatures they became. Receding forests would have deprived them of the more nutritious leaves and fruits that forest-dwelling primates survive on, said Milton.

Her thesis complements the discovery last month by UC Berkeley professor Tim White and others that early human species were butchering and eating animal meat as long ago as 2.5 million years. Milton's article integrates dietary strategy with the evolution of human physiology to argue that meat eating was routine. It is published this month in the journal "Evolutionary Anthropology" (Vol.8, #1).

Then it continues... amazingly enough:

Protein shmotein

Vegetarians have been drilled with the age old question time and time again, "but where do you get your protein?" Oddly enough, vegetarians actually consume more protein than meat eaters. (According to Vegetarian Times) The question is about as ridiculous as asking, but where do you get your cholesterol? Americans are dying in masse because of overconsumption of protein rich foods....

Really? That's garbage. There's no way the protein in plants, specifically the reproductive parts, are going to be able to generate enough protein for your body to do anything. It's not even the same type of protein... it also completely disregards the reality of plant cell walls and how we can't digest them. Ignores the damage done by wheat, dairy, heavy metals... these people are so completely devoid of any real knowledge it boggles my mind.

Is it that hard to understand that we're large meat sacks? To make more meat sack and to maintain the meat sack you need..... meat? Not to mention every cell in our body is wrapped in a little bubble of fat. Our joints and nerves - insulated by fat. Our muscles, bones, marrow - its all animal protein and animal fat.

And here Ashton Kutcher get's rushed to the hospital with pancreas problems...

Speaking with the US newspaper, Kutcher says "First of all, the fruitarian diet can lead to, like, severe issues. I went to the hospital, like, two days before we started shooting the movie. I was, like, doubled over in pain."

"My pancreas levels were completely out of whack," he added. "It was really terrifying ... considering everything."

And now it all makes sense why Jobs died of pancreatic cancer... and yet on my wall I had someone try to tell me it was healthy! Ha!
/rant off

 

[JonnyRadar]

[...] May I ask, what caused the rant? i.e., are you really that surprised or shocked? Your post makes me wonder if there is a specific event that caused this "rant" (which is simply the truth), but what caused you to be so involved that you would post about it in such detail and with such fervor?

Just curious fwiw...

 

[Turgon]

How about formulating this into an article with some additional research to back up your stance and discharge some of this emotional energy? You can talk about the difference between complete and incomplete proteins, anti-nutrients, the excess hormonal and insulin disregulation that occurs with eating ONLY fruits... basically show that it's a 'fruity' diet, but constructively - and in a snarky way if you like.

 

[dugdeep]

Fruitarianism seems to be in the news quite a bit lately after Ashton Kutcher's trip to the hospital as a result of his experiments with it. A post by Dr. Kaayla Daniel (who wrote "The Whole Soy Story") is circulating on Facebook ATM which does a good job critiquing Jobs diet, but more particularly, critiquing the position of a doctor who defends it (despite glaring evidence that it's likely what killed Jobs, or at the very least, didn't help him).

http://drkaayladaniel.com/veganthink-dr-john-mcdougall-explains-the-death-of-steve-jobs/

 

[KristinLynne]

Here is an article about the different diets highlighting Paleo or ketogenic against fruitarianism. FWIW...

_http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/kobe-bryant-defies-father-time-using-traditional-diet-while-ashton-kutcher-ends-up-in-the-hospital-ignoring-it/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHealthyHomeEconomist+%28The+Healthy+Home+Economist%29

 

[whitecoast]

Fruitarianism seems to be in the news quite a bit lately after Ashton Kutcher's trip to the hospital as a result of his experiments with it. A post by Dr. Kaayla Daniel (who wrote "The Whole Soy Story") is circulating on Facebook ATM which does a good job critiquing Jobs diet, but more particularly, critiquing the position of a doctor who defends it (despite glaring evidence that it's likely what killed Jobs, or at the very least, didn't help him).

http://drkaayladaniel.com/veganthink-dr-john-mcdougall-explains-the-death-of-steve-jobs/

Yeah, and then there's Jobs, who died of pancreatic cancer, as everyone knows. Fructose appears to have a role in that type of cancer. :/

Even Ghandi was reported to have tried this diet out, but eventually went back to just plain vegetarianism after he - the champion of self-inflicted emaciation - found it unsustainable.

 

[Laura]

Amazing that something like this that clearly can kill people post-haste gets so much support and promotion.

 

[Ben]

I wouldn't try to analyse this too much. Remember that there are groups of people who buy vegetarian food for their DOGS. Yes it will make your brain hurt.

 

[Cyre2067]

May I ask, what caused the rant? i.e., are you really that surprised or shocked?

An exchange on my facebook walll basically. I was shocked that anyone would consider this particular diet 'healthy'. Putting aside common sense, there's no evidence to suggest anything but the contrary.

How about formulating this into an article with some additional research to back up your stance and discharge some of this emotional energy?

It's a good idea, I wouldn't even have to add much.

Mostly I just wanted to mention it on the forum since we collect topics like this and I hadn't seen it mentioned.

 

[Buddy]

The one thing that more Fruitarians mention above all others is a knowingness, an internal feeling that the Fruitarian diet is the diet meant for mankind.
[...]
Cooked food is an unnatural human creation and is toxic to the body. Fruitarians eat 100% raw food as close as possible to its natural state. It is never possible to improve upon nature, a fact that many humans find hard to accept. When our diet is in harmony with nature, our health excels and our consciousness expands

For the additional research for an article that Turgon suggests, someone might want to read Left in the Dark (The Biological Origins of the Fall From Grace) By Graham Gynn and Tony Wright and described as: "An investigation into the evolution of the human brain. A journey to the edge of the human mind." Proponents of the "fruit diet" may reference it as an authoritative source.

The authors provide an online copy for free reading:
_http://www.leftinthedark.org.uk/book

I read the book and found it fascinating. What stuck in my mind the most was the skimpy but persuasive case about certain enzymes found in fruit and their relationship to testosterone. Seems the idea is that the tropical forest diet delayed the onset of puberty until much later than what's happening today with 10 year olds and this was said to give more time to mature in ways other than the body before those physical changes began.

Although I liked the book, its biggest value to me is the copious amounts of right-brain, left-brain hypnosis experiments because the nutritional case wasn't entirely convincing.

Without regard to validity of the theory, as usual, ordinary people will take information concerning anything--including the diet of proto-human (my term) in an ancient context, (mis)apply it fully and immediately in the here and now and within a totally inappropriate physiological context and somehow expect to automatically benefit.

 

[ytain]

The authors provide an online copy for free reading:
_http://www.leftinthedark.org.uk/book

Buddy,

Are you sure that book is still free to download from their website?
Cause I cannot find anywhere like that on their website.

Ytain

 

[Carl]

Driving into the city before we saw something incredible. There was a huge billboard with a picture of a child smoking, and wow.. I'll just let you see it for yourself:


_http://www.clickliverpool.com/news/liverpool-news/1218194-smoking-baby-billboard-unveiled-in-liverpool.html

We really don't have long left..

 

[Foxx]

Wow, the only words I can think of are "ignorance is better than false knowledge", and boy are these people overfilled with the latter.

Based on this, maybe it would be wise for kids to start smoking? It reminded me of this:

http://www.sott.net/article/234667-Pestilence-the-Great-Plague-and-the-Tobacco-Cure

"For personal disinfections nothing enjoyed such favour as tobacco; the belief in it was widespread, and even children were made to light up a reaf in pipes. Thomas Hearnes remembers one Tom Rogers telling him that when he was a scholar at Eton in the year that the great plague raged, all the boys smoked in school by order, and that he was never whipped so much in his life as he was one morning for not smoking. It was long afterwards a tradition that none who kept a tobacconist shop in London had the plague." - A J Bell writing in about 1700.

 

[mcb]

May I ask, what caused the rant? i.e., are you really that surprised or shocked?

An exchange on my facebook walll basically. I was shocked that anyone would consider this particular diet 'healthy'. Putting aside common sense, there's no evidence to suggest anything but the contrary.
...

It's all good for helping you see things as they actually are. And some things are shocking no matter how much you are aware of them. But this is just plain old standard issue lying and deception, business as usual. People will make life-altering decisions without any real fact-checking to speak of.

I was initially shocked when I realized how much I had been lied to as a vegan, and how little of that I had really tried to validate, but now that I see what was going on and how the trap was set for me, it's not so surprising any more. I don't see any difference between that and this.

 

[ytain]

For the additional research for an article that Turgon suggests, someone might want to read Left in the Dark (The Biological Origins of the Fall From Grace) By Graham Gynn and Tony Wright and described as: "An investigation into the evolution of the human brain. A journey to the edge of the human mind."

I read the book and I'm totally disgusted by the stuff presented in it.

It totally reflects the New Age psychology and it lacks references to the studies mentioned in the book. Also the writer practically connects two or many studies out of blue without respecting the contexts.

I would not recommend such a book like this to anyone to read, because it makes everyone a sucker for the lies in the book. The way the language is used in the book is similar to what a psychopath charms a victim.

Ytain