Nationalisation in Argentina
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But I ask myself, is Madame the President of Argentina doing this for the benefit of the people of Argentina or because she has family that have parts int he oil company that can take the rest of Repsol? Or maybe because USA helps her to do that? I really don't understand this subject. Is Madame the President a socialist? I think she is not. But maybe... I am wrong. But maybe is she using nationalism for her politics?
I think it is a good idea to get rid of mafiosi like Repsol. But surely there is something under all this? ;)
I think it is a good idea to get rid of mafiosi like Repsol. But surely there is something under all this? ;)
cbi
The Force is Strong With This One
La Campora, a hidden group which pulls the puppets' strings in Argentina, is in fact, the very actor of this move. There are heavy connections between Zionism and them; don't forget that "Madame the President" and her son -the leader of La Campora- are jewish.
Curiously, there was a zionist strategy during WWII to "buy" the Patagonia (south of Argentina); from where the Kirchner's were governors.
cbi
Curiously, there was a zionist strategy during WWII to "buy" the Patagonia (south of Argentina); from where the Kirchner's were governors.
cbi
cbi said:
It is true, and not long ago I read or listen that this idea of "invading" the Patagonia is still in their minds.
I think Madame la Présidente needs to play "populism" because her politics, lately, did not give her many points. She was very criticized when the train accident. We know that populism is a trick, for politicians.
cbi
The Force is Strong With This One
loreta said:
Yes, mind that the main resources (water, petroleum and gas) do come from Patagonia. In fact, they have their economy "dollarized" and the Kirchner family have bought a lot of hotels and acres with lakes and fresh water through proxies.
You see: the bottom problem is worse... she and her son are building a hierarchical structure of power with funds from states and nation. If a politician didn't accept their terms, they don't provide with funds; and they replace the heretic with one (already mind washed) from La Cámpora: a very parasitic model.
Argentina, sadly, is now a human farm; it's easy to see who are the "pigs".
ps: sorry my english.
Yozilla said:Just for Now a LOT offor brave Mrs President of Argentina!
YPF was a national concern at it's inception. The infamous Menem started a privatization steamroller when in power. YPF was privatized - a strategic resource- following the Chicago Boys economic philosophy. Bad for Argentina. Now it is going back to where it never had have left, though I concede that many pockets will be well lines as a result of the transaction. And yes, the involved are -in great proportion- the moneychangers we all know very well.
Poor mistreated and loathed Argentine citizenry. My heart goes to them.
IMHO, strategic resources such as communications, water, sewage, electricity, healthcare, roads, defense and the like (especially the issuance of money and control of the Money Reserve) should always remain property of the citizenry, as in "The Nation".
Nation: a large body of people, associated with a particular territory, that is sufficiently conscious of its unity to seek or to possess a government peculiarly its own.
Yeps, it's all for show, I think. Dear Cristina is a zionist puppet, and she has never done anything FOR the people. So this can't be an exception.
Look, for example, at the fact that Israel has signed a special treaty within Mercosur. As far as I know, it was the Argentinian government who encouraged this.
Quoting the article linked above:
This was in 2011.
Another thing is that, even though President Menem destroyed the economy by privatizing companies by YPF, and created a huge debt with the IMF, the more recent governments have reproached Chavez the fact that he tried to help, by paying a large part of the debt (sure, with interests, and all, but he got Argentina partially off the grip of the evil IMF!). So, this could be a strategy to get rid of Chavez indirectly, and to give more power back to the US (and Israel) on South America. I'm just speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this was the real motivation. I mean, come on, YPF, Repsol, all oil companies. And we know how interested in them are the pathocrats. With the Venezuelan government having control over all oil in South America, they're probably trying to get some control back. And Cristina probably loves it!
A human farm indeed. A country with so much potential and so many resources that has, like many others, been taken over and destroyed long ago under the facade of independence and of the fictitious end of dictatorships. A democracy like this is not much better...
Look, for example, at the fact that Israel has signed a special treaty within Mercosur. As far as I know, it was the Argentinian government who encouraged this.
Quoting the article linked above:
This was in 2011.
Another thing is that, even though President Menem destroyed the economy by privatizing companies by YPF, and created a huge debt with the IMF, the more recent governments have reproached Chavez the fact that he tried to help, by paying a large part of the debt (sure, with interests, and all, but he got Argentina partially off the grip of the evil IMF!). So, this could be a strategy to get rid of Chavez indirectly, and to give more power back to the US (and Israel) on South America. I'm just speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this was the real motivation. I mean, come on, YPF, Repsol, all oil companies. And we know how interested in them are the pathocrats. With the Venezuelan government having control over all oil in South America, they're probably trying to get some control back. And Cristina probably loves it!
A human farm indeed. A country with so much potential and so many resources that has, like many others, been taken over and destroyed long ago under the facade of independence and of the fictitious end of dictatorships. A democracy like this is not much better...
Really, this world has crazy, crazy leaders. 
I ask myself why this is happening (the nationalization) now, in this terrible moment of global crisis, particularly in Spain. Surely this is part of an agenda. Now, you see, all people here are talking of this problem instead of talking about the big and enormous crazy laws and measures that the government is taking. The attention here is: our king that kill elephants and Repsol. This situation also will put oil prices very high, but who cares? People are so sheep, here. They accept everything. The majority, evidently. I think that very soon I will have to take out my bicycle...
I ask myself why this is happening (the nationalization) now, in this terrible moment of global crisis, particularly in Spain. Surely this is part of an agenda. Now, you see, all people here are talking of this problem instead of talking about the big and enormous crazy laws and measures that the government is taking. The attention here is: our king that kill elephants and Repsol. This situation also will put oil prices very high, but who cares? People are so sheep, here. They accept everything. The majority, evidently. I think that very soon I will have to take out my bicycle...
David Topi
Jedi Master
Hi loreta!loreta said:Really, this world has crazy, crazy leaders.
I ask myself why this is happening (the nationalization) now, in this terrible moment of global crisis, particularly in Spain. Surely this is part of an agenda. Now, you see, all people here are talking of this problem instead of talking about the big and enormous crazy laws and measures that the government is taking. The attention here is: our king that kill elephants and Repsol. This situation also will put oil prices very high, but who cares? People are so sheep, here. They accept everything. The majority, evidently. I think that very soon I will have to take out my bicycle...
Same feeling here, keep the attention of the people focused somewhere else constantly and you can can implement all sorts of draconian mesures with little opossition.
It is already sometime that i go biking everywhere i can
Yozilla
The Living Force
After reading comment on Fidel Castro's interview about current situation in Latin America and unpleasant "mistreatment" of Mr Black-Bush at summit America - were he was, supposedly, ignored by representatives of other nations I came on idea what could be behind "heroic" nationalization issue (yes, yes it is "s" instead "z" 
sorry everybody): Since Zionist recognized new trend in South and Central America and which is absolutely unacceptable - revolutionary (not rebellious 
) orientated - they are trying to impose their puppet (Christina Fernandez) as leading person in contra-USA tendencies and possible tomorrow's "Latin America Union" or whatever could come out of this interesting development.
Do they have Internet on Cuba cause i would like to send an e-mail to comrad Fidel
Message in a bottle is not an option!
sorry everybody): Since Zionist recognized new trend in South and Central America and which is absolutely unacceptable - revolutionary (not rebellious ) orientated - they are trying to impose their puppet (Christina Fernandez) as leading person in contra-USA tendencies and possible tomorrow's "Latin America Union" or whatever could come out of this interesting development.Do they have Internet on Cuba cause i would like to send an e-mail to comrad Fidel
Message in a bottle is not an option!
Palinurus
The Living Force
Hi Yozilla,Yozilla said:
I don't know about that, but I do know that 'comrad Fidel' is a regular contributor to GlobalResearch ( http://www.globalresearch.ca/ ) so you could try to address them and they might forward it to him for you, or provide an email contactpoint you could use. Worth a try, if you're serious about this... :P
Graalsword
Jedi Council Member
Ailén said:
Indeed, and also, whereas they took the Repsol part, they continue to let the Kirchner-friendly entrepreneur Enrique EskeNAZI have a big part of YPF, who acquired it freely without paying anything. The wors thing of all of this, is that a lot of people who define themselves as "socialists/leftists/progresists/center-left" support blindly anything the government does, they talk about human rights, "national and popular model", etc., but they can't see that they have been deceived in the worst and most dangerous way by these fascist mafia. I think that Argentina is doomed to disaster. Yeah, I know, all the world is heading for that, but there are certain countries that are buying the tickets of the first wagon towards the abyss.
I also think that Argentine government is purpotedly preparing the stage to turn Argentine into a military target by USA-UK-NATO, which will lead to the final take over and destruction of this particular country.
Yozilla
The Living Force
This was also my first thought - I mean US militarists are threatening different country every other day (almost) - except IsraelGraalsword said:
...Yesterday it was Libya, today Iran and Syria, for tomorrow it is North Corea and day after tomorrow it could be Argentina 
... Well I am curious why they don't attack Cuba when they are so mighty?
