no one has reviewed DN Rises

[shellycheval]

I find it interesting that no one has reviewed DN Rises yet. I can't think of any other block-buster, super hero films that have debuted and have not been reviewed here shortly thereafter.
Clearly its association with the Aurora, CO massacre is dampening the discourse in many places, but I am both slightly surprised and pleased to find an absence of discussion of the movie itself here.

This says to me that the SOTT forum people recognize that no matter how entertaining, well-made, and fun this movie may be, it's just another corporate artifact vying for our dollars and attention, and now, forever associated with more mind-programmed violence in the US. Am I correct in assuming (always risky business) that out of respect for the victims or to show disrespect for corporate media, that fans here maybe refraining from discussing it as "entertainment"?

 

[maryjk_99]

Hi shelly, yes I went to see it with a friend who's husband highly recommended it, calling it a 'must see'. And honestly, we both thought it s*cked. Except for Ann Hathaway (and Morgan Freeman, who is one of my personal favorites, but only had a small role), the acting was bad, the music annoying, the storyline predictable. This nearly three hour long movie was truly difficult to sit through, with the background noise and music making it difficult to understand the dialog.

Another fear mongering piece spit out by the conveyor belt located in hollywood set to remind us of how vulnerable and dependent we are but that a savior will rise to free us all from our fears. Whatever her husband saw in it was a complete mystery to both of us.

SPOILER ALERT

In short, a masked terrorist threatens gotham city (obviously filmed in NY) with a nuclear bomb set to go off in 30 days, the technology of which was created by Morgan Freeman's corporation, who also creates the technology for the batman. The terrorist's handler happens to be a trusted female associate of Bruce Wayne. Ann Hathoway plays catwoman, a thief with a conscience, without whom the batman could not have saved the city.

 

[Bo]

To be honest I liked the movie. There was one scene that could be seen from an esoteric point of view. (below is my perspective on it)


***SPOILER ALERT BELOW!*****




For example the scene where Batman was mentally and physically being tortured by bane. He was forced to fight himself(mentally) in order to find that inner freedom. As he tried to climb out of the pit for the first time where he had to make that jump. He did it out of anger and fear of death and he failed. The second time he was in a state of calmness and without fear, he even did it without the safety of a rope and trusted his own ability to make it. The rope symbolizing his fear of death in that particular case.

For me this scene was an example of how when we try to find that inner freedom. We are blocked by invisible ropes that we can not let go off(buffers/attachments etc). So by cutting off the ropes that binds us too these mechanic behaviours do we have a chance to truly become who we are and take control of our being.

However others might have a different take on it. But that was my observation and perception on it.

 

[Gimpy]

Am I correct in assuming (always risky business) that out of respect for the victims or to show disrespect for corporate media, that fans here maybe refraining from discussing it as "entertainment"?

Not in my case. ;) We haven't gone for the reason that money is tight, and I'm emotionally compromised via a prednisone course. Given the choice of a trip north to see a dear friends art show, or seeing the Dark Knight, the art show won. Just getting out of the house for a road trip was phenomenal.

Movies are the one 'treat' Hubby and i give each other: I'll see a movie I don't care for if I know he really wants to see it. Vice versa holds true. A lot of the time we discuss them and learn just as much watching the audience as we do the movie itself.

 

[Mountain Crown]

I think it's pretty clear that Nolan no longer took the trilogy seriously.

 

[findit]

I enjoyed the movie. An ageing super-hero, the story is tied into the first movie and I also think there was definite social commentary on the state of Gotham vs what is going on today with Wall St. I liked how they ended the movie. Add in Bo's comments and I enjoyed all 3 movies...

 

[dugdeep]

I also really enjoyed it. I do think it was the weakest out of the trilogy, but still quite good. There were some really interesting subtexts going on, too, as Bo pointed out. I especially liked how they built Cat Woman's character - a sort of Robin Hood (although skipping the 'giving to the poor' bit) who seemed to be waging her own personal battle against the 1%.

*SPOILER*

Another thing I thought was interesting was that when Bane had taken over Gotham and let martial law reign, although the psychopaths set out to destroy the city and drag society to the ground, there were pockets of co-operation where people were helping eachother. It showed a clear separation between those who abide the law because there are consequences of not doing so and those who have an inner understanding of what is right. A pretty good macrocosm of the world we live in, IMO.

 

[Z...]

I find it interesting that no one has reviewed DN Rises yet. I can't think of any other block-buster, super hero films that have debuted and have not been reviewed here shortly thereafter.
Clearly its association with the Aurora, CO massacre is dampening the discourse in many places, but I am both slightly surprised and pleased to find an absence of discussion of the movie itself here.

This says to me that the SOTT forum people recognize that no matter how entertaining, well-made, and fun this movie may be, it's just another corporate artifact vying for our dollars and attention, and now, forever associated with more mind-programmed violence in the US. Am I correct in assuming (always risky business) that out of respect for the victims or to show disrespect for corporate media, that fans here maybe refraining from discussing it as "entertainment"?

Even as "entertainment" this movie failed miserably. Granted the "batman-cycle" was very cool and so was Hathaway as Cat Woman but that couldn't make up for completely disjointed and unbelievably stupid plot and ending.
The movie contained pretty obvious propaganda against rebellion and occupy movement which together with association with Aurora can give us some food for thought.
I would say thumbs down and not recommended even as light entertainment.

 

[Ben]

To be honest I liked the movie. There was one scene that could be seen from an esoteric point of view. (below is my perspective on it)


***SPOILER ALERT BELOW!*****




For example the scene where Batman was mentally and physically being tortured by bane. He was forced to fight himself(mentally) in order to find that inner freedom. As he tried to climb out of the pit for the first time where he had to make that jump. He did it out of anger and fear of death and he failed. The second time he was in a state of calmness and without fear, he even did it without the safety of a rope and trusted his own ability to make it. The rope symbolizing his fear of death in that particular case.


However others might have a different take on it. But that was my observation and perception on it.

Well I recall this scene pretty well and I think you have got it backwards. The doctor explained to batman that because he didn't fear death ("you think your lack of fear makes you strong?") he didn't have the greatest motivation a man can have when attempting the climb. The lack of a rope helped instill this fear in him because of the consequences of a fall.

 

[realitybugll]

I was invited to see this movie but I declined. i didn't think it would have a good effect on me. Especially going into a movie theatre, it makes me dissociate more. with the loud music and sounds, and being 3 hours long, I think I would come out of the theatre a little bit bewildered. It just does not seem pleasant to me. I probably would be entertained though.

I guess what I'm wary of is how alluring / dissociative it could be. I don't want the feeling when I leave the theatre "now I'm coming back to reality... I just wasted this time." Watching a 45 minute tv show is different to me, and I am much more ready to do that than go to the theaters and see this type of high-intensity movie.

 

[cubbex]

:P I loved the movie. I don't like batman in comics or toons, but as a movie, and as "entertainment", the movie entertained me well. From all super hero movies, is I guess the trilogy with the most serious tone. The plot was predictable of course, what did you expect? super hero vs. villain, means fight, and the typical sacrifice from the hero. Batman is batman, I don't see in which way it can be unpredictable.

Some performances were bad, like the death of some characters, but most of them are good, they fulfill the role, as none of them requires too much; for example Alfred in the emotional scenes, he did well. The message for me was incredible, from the trilogy is first controlling your fear, acknowledge chaos in the planet (the joker being the primary psychopath), and then rise from all the pain the chaos produced on us.

Don't know why people take movies so seriously, as to criticize them very hard. Even when there are worst movies like "The Avengers".

 

[Iron]

:P I loved the movie. I don't like batman in comics or toons, but as a movie, and as "entertainment", the movie entertained me well. From all super hero movies, is I guess the trilogy with the most serious tone. The plot was predictable of course, what did you expect? super hero vs. villain, means fight, and the typical sacrifice from the hero. Batman is batman, I don't see in which way it can be unpredictable.

Some performances were bad, like the death of some characters, but most of them are good, they fulfill the role, as none of them requires too much; for example Alfred in the emotional scenes, he did well. The message for me was incredible, from the trilogy is first controlling your fear, acknowledge chaos in the planet (the joker being the primary psychopath), and then rise from all the pain the chaos produced on us.

Don't know why people take movies so seriously, as to criticize them very hard. Even when there are worst movies like "The Avengers".

The way I see, some of the posters were trying to do Work with the movie experience, trying to see the deeper meanings if there were any, instead of just sitting there and being entertained. I think that is the reason of the difference in attitude regarding the movie.
I did not see the movie yet, for the record. And I liked "The Avengers", but purely from the perspective of a Marvel comics fan (used to be).