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We know how little the elites care about ideologies unless bringing one up either for heavy criticism or for worship suits their agenda at a given time. So I think it's not so much about Nazism itself, it is about looking behind the veil and guessing what's ahead of us.

Do we see some kind of preparing the public for the normalisation of Nazi ideology in the era of words and concepts changing their meanings and moral evaluation, this time with Germany as the European avant-garde? It well may be, just think how we are being trained by MSM for pedophilia normalisation or to ignore the fact of unified Western support for the Nazi element in Ukraine, to name just those two. By why and what for?

Ad rem: It's been reported that the German officials decided to supplement their list dedicated to the country's military tradition with adding to it a bunch of Nazi 'heroes'. This supposedly came after the Pistorius's demands for the "combat readiness" of the Bundeswehr due to the conflict on Ukraine. Russian media and internet are rumbling about it, Russian propaganda has a big thing to use, Zakharova herself called on the world community to urgently respond to the inclusion of the Nazis in the list of German exemplary military tradition. Yet barely anything can be found in the Anglo-info-sphere.

The shortest version from Pravda-en, sourced back to Russian "ostashkonews", published today:

The Nazis became "heroes": the military in Germany is set as an example by officers of the Wehrmacht and SS troops

German Defense Ministry spokesman Arne Kollatz said that 25 fascists would be added to the "list of military tradition." Among them:

Pilot Erich Hartmann, who shot down 344 Soviet and eight American aircraft

The submariner Erich Topp, who sank 35 ships, mostly Anglo-American

Brigadier General Heinz Karst, who received the Iron Cross 1st class on the Eastern Front

Kollatz explained that although these individuals distinguished themselves in front of Hitler's Germany, they are appreciated primarily for their services after the war.

The official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Zakharova, called on the world community to urgently respond to the inclusion of the Nazis in the list of examples of the German military.

"By order of the Bundeswehr, the Nazis return to their houses of horrors and turn other people's houses into ashes. The former Nazis have once again become the "heroes" of Germany. We must sound the alarm for the planet to wake up," she wrote.
Pravda-de has it also in German, here.

Ria Novosti provides another detail:

BERLIN, August 12 — RIA Novosti. The German Ministry of Defense included Wehrmacht officers, some of whom were members of the SS and NSDAP, in the list dedicated to the country's military tradition, department spokesman Arne Kollatz said at a Cabinet briefing.

Earlier, several local publications published excerpts from the internal mailing list of Lieutenant General Kai Rorschneider, according to which the German Ministry of Defense intends to expand the "decree on traditions" drawn up in 2018 — document regulating the "culture of memory" in the German troops.

WSWS.org carries an expanded report in Eng and in French, dated August 2, 2024:

German army declares itself rooted in the “traditions” of Hitler’s Wehrmacht
L’armée allemande se déclare ancrée dans les «traditions» de la Wehrmacht d’Hitler

Opening paragraphs:
Last month, the German army published a document asserting that it bases itself on the tradition of the Wehrmacht, the army of the Nazi regime that massacred and starved tens of millions of civilians during World War II.

Almost unnoticed by the public, on July 12 the Bundeswehr (Armed Forces) issued “Supplementary information on the guidelines for understanding and maintaining traditions in the Bundeswehr.” The document was signed by Lieutenant General Kai Rohrschneider, head of the Department for Operational Readiness and Support of the Armed Forces in the Defence Ministry. It explicitly names top officers of the Nazi Wehrmacht as “tradition-forming” and “identity-creating” for the Bundeswehr, today’s German army.

So the story goes on (ignored?) already for a month. Is it simply a coincidence that MSN published some sort of a commemoration of the German fighter pilot Gerhard Barkhorn just 5 days ago, linking to another heroe pilot Erich Hartmann (listed above as a new list addition)?

From Wiki entry on Barkhorn:

On 22 June [1941], the German forces launched the attack on the Soviet Union which opened the Eastern Front. That day, Barkhorn flew five combat missions in support of the invasion. ...
While II. Gruppe was based at Jesau, Barkhorn was appointed Staffelkapitän of 4. Staffel of JG 52 on 1 March 1942. He succeeded Steinhoff in this capacity who had been given command of II. Gruppe of JG 52. The unit then moved to Wien-Schwechat on 24 April before flying to Zürichtal, present-day Solote Pole, a village near the urban settlement Kirovske in the Crimea. There, II. Gruppe participated in Operation Trappenjagd, a German counterattack during the Battle of the Kerch Peninsula, launched on 8 May. On 16 May, II. Gruppe relocated to Artyomovsk, present-day Bakhmut where JG 52 supported the German forces fighting in the Second Battle of Kharkov.

On 22 June, German forces launched Operation Fridericus II, the attack on Kupiansk, a preliminary operation to Case Blue, the strategic summer offensive in southern Russia.

Missing is Kursk. But wait, the other ace pilot Hartmann was there a year later:

His Gruppe was moved to the combat area of the Kuban bridgehead on 1 April 1943 where it was based at an airfield at Taman. Operating from Taman until 2 July, III. Gruppe also flew missions from Kerch on 12 May, from Sarabuz and Saky on 14 May, Zürichtal, present-day Solote Pole, a village near the urban settlement Kirovske on 23 May, and Yevpatoria on 25/26 June. ... In preparation for Operation Citadel, III. Gruppe was relocated to the central sector of the eastern Front. The Gruppe first moved to Zaporizhzhia and then to Ugrim on 3 July. There, under the command of Luftflotte 4, they supported Army Group South fighting on the southern flank of the salient. On 5 July Hartmann claimed four victories during the large dogfights that took place during the Battle of Kursk.

The August 6 Ukrainian attack on Kursk, a reason of which no one seems to understand, with the use of German weapons and equipment, is simply another coincidence, I get it. But is it?

Craig Murray, yesterday:

The Ukrainian attack into Kursk also has a profound emotional resonance. The Battle of Kursk was arguably the most important blow struck against Nazi Germany, the largest tank battle in the history of the world by a wide margin.

The Ukrainian government has destroyed all the monuments to the Red Army which achieved this, and denigrates the Ukrainians who fought against fascism. By contrast, it honours the very substantial Ukrainian components of the Nazi forces, including but not limited to, the Galician Division and their leaders.

Kursk is therefore a place of great symbolism for Ukraine to attack now into Russia, including with German artillery and armour.

German politicians seem to have an atavistic urge to attack Russia, and support the genocide of Palestinians to an astonishing degree.

And from the Comment section:

Tatyana:
more about Kursk and symbolism: Ukrainian media boast and call it Kurskaya Bitva (the Battle of Kursk), common historical terminology.
There are also reports that nationalist battalion with the curious name “Nachtigal” is participating in the attack. (In WW2 in Ukraine were Nachtigal and Roland nazi units).
Украинские СМИ объявили о "Курской битве": Против русских пошёл батальон "Нахтигаль" - Лента новостей Курска

These days we were also discussing another Ukrainian military unit – SS Bears
The future of Wikipedia - Craig Murray

[adding an excerpt from the latter link above:]
Yesterday, among the news about the invasion of Ukrainian troops into the Kursk region and the alleged attack on the nuclear power plant near Sudzha, there was a mention that the Ukrainians were pulling nationalist units to the Belgorod region.
The “SS Bears” were mentioned.
In their – haha – nor a Nazi Army, they have such a unit “SS Bears”, with two lightning bolts on its flag and a motto in German “Meine Ehre heißt Treue!”. ...

Well, when I saw the name SS Bears I googled for it. The search result page had a Wiki entry snippet
I clicked it now the page was deleted, the Wiki story of editing says it was deleted on August 7
On the latter screenshot you see some links, one of them leads to the discussion.
In this discussion page you see:
Wiki article “Jaroslaw Hunka” is nominated for deletion!

So there are several angles to look at the development from. Is it just a propaganda effort as part of the information war? Or is there a preparation for 'legalising' anything 'nazi/fascist' to make people accept what's coming? Or perhaps the history is about to repeat with Barbarossa 2.0 and German troops on the ground in Russia?

I'm still not sure about the right board for this post, whether it belongs here or it fits better in Geopolitics.
 
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