Fifth Way
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The Walley of the Wolves
In most expensive Turkish film, Americans in Iraq murder for pleasure, Jewish doctor runs an organ farm
In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother. They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv. "Valley of the Wolves Iraq" set to open in Turkey on Friday feeds off the increasingly negative feelings many Turks harbor toward their longtime NATO allies: Americans.
The movie, which reportedly cost some $10 million (euro 8.3 million), is the latest in a new genre of popular culture that demonizes the United States. It comes on the heels of a novel called "Metal Storm" about a war between Turkey and the U.S., which has been a best seller for months.
One recent opinion poll revealed the depth of the hostility in Turkey toward Americans: 53 percent of Turks who responded to the 2005 Pew Global Attitudes survey associated Americans with the word "rude"; 70 percent with "violent"; 68 percent with "greedy"; and 57 percent with "immoral."
Advance tickets are already selling out across Turkey for the film, which has dialogue in Turkish, Arabic, Kurdish and English. In addition to Turkey, the film is set to be shown in more than a dozen other countries including the United States, Britain, Germany, The Netherlands, Britain, Denmark, Russia, Egypt, Syria and Australia.
The movie's American stars are Billy Zane, who plays a self-professed "peacekeeper sent by God," and Gary Busey as the Jewish-American doctor.
U.S. soldiers have become hate figures in Muslim countries around the world after the unpopular war in Iraq. But here in Turkey, a personal grudge fuels the resentment.
"Valley of the Wolves Iraq" opens with a true story: On July 4, 2003, in Sulaymaniyah, northern Iraq, troops from the U.S. Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade raided and ransacked a Turkish special forces office, threw hoods over the heads of 11 Turkish special forces officers, and held them in custody for more than two days.
The Americans said they had been looking for Iraqi insurgents and unwittingly rounded up the Turks because they were not in uniform. Still, the incident damaged Turkish-U.S. relations and hurt Turkish national pride. Turks traditionally idolize their soldiers; most enthusiastically send their sons off for mandatory military service.
In the movie, one of the Turkish special forces officers commits suicide to save his honor. His farewell letter reaches Polat Alemdar, an elite Turkish intelligence officer who travels to northern Iraq with a small group of men to avenge the humiliation.
There they find a rogue group of U.S. soldiers led by officer Sam William Marshall played by Zane. In the bloodfest that ensues, the small band of Turks bonds with the people of Iraq and eventually ends American atrocities there, killing Zane and his men in the final scene.
"The scenario is great," Istanbul Mayor Kadir Topbas told The Associated Press after the film was shown at a posh opening gala Tuesday night. "It was very successful. ... a soldier's honor must never be damaged."
But Topbas and other Turks at the premiere weren't too concerned about how the movie would be perceived in the United States.
"There isn't going to be a war over this," said Nefise Karatay, a Turkish model lounging on a sofa after the premiere. "Everyone knows that Americans have a good side. That's not what this is about", reports the AP.
In most expensive Turkish film, Americans in Iraq murder for pleasure, Jewish doctor runs an organ farm
In the most expensive Turkish movie ever made, American soldiers in Iraq crash a wedding and pump a little boy full of lead in front of his mother. They kill dozens of innocent people with random machine gun fire, shoot the groom in the head, and drag those left alive to Abu Ghraib prison where a Jewish doctor cuts out their organs, which he sells to rich people in New York, London and Tel Aviv. "Valley of the Wolves Iraq" set to open in Turkey on Friday feeds off the increasingly negative feelings many Turks harbor toward their longtime NATO allies: Americans.
The movie, which reportedly cost some $10 million (euro 8.3 million), is the latest in a new genre of popular culture that demonizes the United States. It comes on the heels of a novel called "Metal Storm" about a war between Turkey and the U.S., which has been a best seller for months.
One recent opinion poll revealed the depth of the hostility in Turkey toward Americans: 53 percent of Turks who responded to the 2005 Pew Global Attitudes survey associated Americans with the word "rude"; 70 percent with "violent"; 68 percent with "greedy"; and 57 percent with "immoral."
Advance tickets are already selling out across Turkey for the film, which has dialogue in Turkish, Arabic, Kurdish and English. In addition to Turkey, the film is set to be shown in more than a dozen other countries including the United States, Britain, Germany, The Netherlands, Britain, Denmark, Russia, Egypt, Syria and Australia.
The movie's American stars are Billy Zane, who plays a self-professed "peacekeeper sent by God," and Gary Busey as the Jewish-American doctor.
U.S. soldiers have become hate figures in Muslim countries around the world after the unpopular war in Iraq. But here in Turkey, a personal grudge fuels the resentment.
"Valley of the Wolves Iraq" opens with a true story: On July 4, 2003, in Sulaymaniyah, northern Iraq, troops from the U.S. Army's 173rd Airborne Brigade raided and ransacked a Turkish special forces office, threw hoods over the heads of 11 Turkish special forces officers, and held them in custody for more than two days.
The Americans said they had been looking for Iraqi insurgents and unwittingly rounded up the Turks because they were not in uniform. Still, the incident damaged Turkish-U.S. relations and hurt Turkish national pride. Turks traditionally idolize their soldiers; most enthusiastically send their sons off for mandatory military service.
In the movie, one of the Turkish special forces officers commits suicide to save his honor. His farewell letter reaches Polat Alemdar, an elite Turkish intelligence officer who travels to northern Iraq with a small group of men to avenge the humiliation.
There they find a rogue group of U.S. soldiers led by officer Sam William Marshall played by Zane. In the bloodfest that ensues, the small band of Turks bonds with the people of Iraq and eventually ends American atrocities there, killing Zane and his men in the final scene.
"The scenario is great," Istanbul Mayor Kadir Topbas told The Associated Press after the film was shown at a posh opening gala Tuesday night. "It was very successful. ... a soldier's honor must never be damaged."
But Topbas and other Turks at the premiere weren't too concerned about how the movie would be perceived in the United States.
"There isn't going to be a war over this," said Nefise Karatay, a Turkish model lounging on a sofa after the premiere. "Everyone knows that Americans have a good side. That's not what this is about", reports the AP.
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Word is spread this film is a exageration. Yet...
The warning came a few months earlier:
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs20050920.htm
mhm... sectarian war?
Well sectarianism is NOT why. But, why would this propaganda: "Baghdad is in the grip of a vicious sectarian war between rival Sunni and Shia extremist factions, despite a massive security operation that has 15,000 US troops and more than 40,000 Iraqi soldiers and police on the streets." appear on aljazeera.net?
The warning came a few months earlier:
And of course:
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs20050920.htm
Re: Valley of the Wolves
I just watched this film last night. It is a stark contrast to the propaganda coming out of Ziowood. It seems to have touched on all of the stereotypes that western films make about the goings on in the middle east, but from the perspective of those who are much closer to the reality of events...sometimes referred to as collateral damage. It deserves a look, especially in light of the exposure of the Israeli organs for sale horrors.
Of note is a scene in a mosque, when the sheik is leading a prayer, the men are all in a circle, arms over neighbor's shoulders, doing a rotating dance step around the sheik. They are taking fast in breaths with a "ha" on the exhale. It is much like the warrior's breath in the Éiriú Eolas exercises.
I just watched this film last night. It is a stark contrast to the propaganda coming out of Ziowood. It seems to have touched on all of the stereotypes that western films make about the goings on in the middle east, but from the perspective of those who are much closer to the reality of events...sometimes referred to as collateral damage. It deserves a look, especially in light of the exposure of the Israeli organs for sale horrors.
Of note is a scene in a mosque, when the sheik is leading a prayer, the men are all in a circle, arms over neighbor's shoulders, doing a rotating dance step around the sheik. They are taking fast in breaths with a "ha" on the exhale. It is much like the warrior's breath in the Éiriú Eolas exercises.
Biomiast
Jedi Master
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I watched the movie and the series that was based on movie two times in the past. Series was highly nationalist in the past, today it is far better. It shows the manipulations that is inflicted because of nationalism and talks about Ergenekon incident lately.
About the movie, it was done because of the event on 4th of July, but it also reflects brutality of Americans and Zionists in Iraq. Billy Zane who plays "peacekeeper send by God" really reminds you George Bush. Even though it reflects the truth about certain issues like organ plundering, it is still highly nationalist. And main character may remind you Rambo, even though he is a small guy. And it has some brutal scenes.
The Sufi order Rabelais mentioned is called Qadiriyyah, the music and the dance was a good part of the movie, for those who may want to watch and listen:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvvAX-zTR_c&feature=related
The song mainly talks about the founder of order, the guy in the middle is a direct descendant of him and gives some good messages against suicide bombing and beheading which some militants did in the past. And also the movie reflects the mindset of a normal guy who become a suicide bomber quite accurately, or so I think.
I watched the movie and the series that was based on movie two times in the past. Series was highly nationalist in the past, today it is far better. It shows the manipulations that is inflicted because of nationalism and talks about Ergenekon incident lately.
About the movie, it was done because of the event on 4th of July, but it also reflects brutality of Americans and Zionists in Iraq. Billy Zane who plays "peacekeeper send by God" really reminds you George Bush. Even though it reflects the truth about certain issues like organ plundering, it is still highly nationalist. And main character may remind you Rambo, even though he is a small guy. And it has some brutal scenes.
The Sufi order Rabelais mentioned is called Qadiriyyah, the music and the dance was a good part of the movie, for those who may want to watch and listen:
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvvAX-zTR_c&feature=related
The song mainly talks about the founder of order, the guy in the middle is a direct descendant of him and gives some good messages against suicide bombing and beheading which some militants did in the past. And also the movie reflects the mindset of a normal guy who become a suicide bomber quite accurately, or so I think.
theos
The Living Force
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From Fifthway (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/26/wfilm26.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_26022006%A0):
I wonder what the intelligence service agents will do with this information?
Will there be agents provocateurs planted to start a riot in the theaters?
From Fifthway (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/02/26/wfilm26.xml&DCMP=EMC-new_26022006%A0):
I wonder what the intelligence service agents will do with this information?
Will there be agents provocateurs planted to start a riot in the theaters?
