Overcoming an addiction.

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I'm looking for some help in overcoming an addiction. I find myself lacking the mental willpower required to go cold turkey. I recognize that any time spent perpetuating this addiction could be better spent elsewhere. What i'm hoping to gain from this topic is advice on how to proceed. I tried a general forum search but couldn't find anything specific. If i overlooked something a link towards the pertinent material would be much appreciated.

Thanks.





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Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Solaris said:
I'm looking for some help in overcoming an addiction. I find myself lacking the mental willpower required to go cold turkey. I recognize that any time spent perpetuating this addiction could be better spent elsewhere. What i'm hoping to gain from this topic is advice on how to proceed. I tried a general forum search but couldn't find anything specific. If i overlooked something a link towards the pertinent material would be much appreciated.

Thanks.
Perhaps learning as much as possible about how whatever you are addicted to is harming your system could provide the shocks necessary to change. Maybe starting a journal could help you see your programming at the times you are feeling controlled by this addiction, what is going on to trigger it, what is going on when you are not feeling controlled by it, etc. Slowly weaning off of whatever it is and replacing it with a healthy activity could also help. It's difficult to offer specific information since you haven't mentioned what the addiction is to.
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Scarlet said:
Slowly weaning off of whatever it is and replacing it with a healthy activity could also help. It's difficult to offer specific information since you haven't mentioned what the addiction is to.
I've fought off successfully two addictions in the past, one of alcohol abuse and the other one smoking.
It's my experience that one cannot quit any habit unless one is sincerely convinced of the urgent need to do so for whatever reasons. To help yourself getting convinced of that urgent need is more than half of the work needed to be able to execute any intention in that direction. So my advice would be to concentrate on whatever it takes to build yourself up to a reasoned decision to quit what you're suffering from. My two cents worth...

Hope this helps a bit!
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Solaris, with the little info you offer, I would have to say that it's mostly a mental battle. If you want to stop, truly and sincerely, you will. If you need professional help, go get it.
Best of health to you.
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Addictions generally come down to automatic system 1 behaviours (see Thinking, Fast and slow) that are your current best known method of meeting your mental/emotional/physical (chemical) needs. Addiction is a general indicator that you are only meeting those needs with something empty at best, unhealthy/destructive at worst.

A simple analogy would be feeling hungry and eating only sweeteners - something that has no substance/gives no fuel to the body. You would feel satiated for a short period then more hungry later....so would seek out more sweeteners. You would start to crave sweeteners (confusing 'hunger' with 'sweeteners') and not be able to get enough of them - as you are not meeting your true need.
Scarlets advice is really helpful in this regard.

If you want more focused/practical advice, perhaps you can specify what sort of addiction it is? If you are comfortable sharing (perhaps post in the Swamp if you do not wish it to be public).
Hope that helps.
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Thanks for the replies. I'm finding it hard to clearly express my thoughts on the matter but i believe you've given me enough advice to take another step along the road to recovery.

In regards to the suggestion of keeping a journal, how do you decide upon what is pertinent?
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Hi Solaris,

To reiterate some of the great advice already given, when you re-engage in addictive behaviour, you reinforce the neural pathways in your brain that tell you 'This is good, I need to do it again' even if it isn't and when you think about it critically afterwards you realize how damaging and dangerous the behaviour is. This is a very good documentary on porn addiction, even if it is or isn't the specific issue you are dealing with. From what I understand, basically all addictions operate the same way from a neurochemical standpoint.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231669-This-Is-Your-Brain-On-Porn

So learning about, and understanding how addictions work, coupled with learning how your addiction works, can be a first step to not allowing so much weight to those habits. Also, being gentle with yourself is important too, because often when we falter in this area, we tend to criticize ourselves (or at least I do) to such a degree that it cascades into doing more of the same old addictive behvaviour.

So if you think about it, you are low on dopamine, are seeking to satisfy your reward circuitry, so you engage in the addictive behaviour, then lambast yourself for it, which leads to pain, and a stronger urge to re-engage in 'quick fix' behaviours. All very mechanical.
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

Turgon said:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231669-This-Is-Your-Brain-On-Porn

So learning about, and understanding how addictions work, coupled with learning how your addiction works, can be a first step to not allowing so much weight to those habits.

In addition to Turgon's link, I would suggest that you read these following books if you haven't already:

- Debugging the Universe - The Wave book 8 by Laura Knight-Jadczyk, where you will find a great description on the physiology and psychology of addictions, among other great subjects. Highly recommended.
- In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts:Close Encounters with Addiction, by Gabor Maté. Haven't read this one yet, but I had the opportunity to attend a workshop he did recently in my town, and the guy seems to know what he is talking about when it comes to addictions.
Here's also a video of an interview of Gabor Maté on his book, with Amy Goodman.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/3/addiction
- The Brain That Changes Itself, by Norman Doidge. I am going through this one at the moment, and I am fascinated by the information. It goes deeper into what Turgon refers to when he talks about how our brains become wired on addictions, and how to un-wire them and re-wire them again.

Also, what is your diet like? What do you eat on a daily basis? Often giving the body the right fuel it needs to nurture and repair it, can help with all types of cravings. There's a very long thread in this forum that discusses these issues, and you can read it here.

As others mentioned already, if you have a burning need and the will to commit, you will be able to overcome your addiction. It will take time and persistence, and sometimes you might feel that your will is weak, but getting up again and again after you fall is what strengthens that will :)
 
Re: Overcoming an addiciton.

RedFox said:
If you want more focused/practical advice, perhaps you can specify what sort of addiction it is? If you are comfortable sharing (perhaps post in the Swamp if you do not wish it to be public).
Hope that helps.
There have been some great questions and tips on here, Soluna, but since you only have 21 posts I don't think you can see the Swamp section RedFox mentioned just yet. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you need 50 posts to view that section. In the mean time, if you feel comfortable sharing details of your addiction please feel free, :), but just remember this Forum Guideline:

Please don't post messages about your illegal pastimes and habits. Cassiopaea.org does not wish to appear to condone such practices, for reasons that should be pretty obvious if a little common sense is applied. If you do post such stuff, expect it to be deleted immediately. It is also inadvisable to post about illegal pastimes from yesteryear, drug use for example, (unless you are disavowing all such usage). The reason is that by doing so you run the risk of attracting lurker "drug buddies", which you probably don't want to do.
 
Came across this in a news letter called The Fix:

Is Addiction a Disease or a Choice?

Technically? Neither. Or as Dr. Marc Lewis (developmental neuroscientist, professor of developmental psychology, and much smarter than I’ll ever be) is wont to point out, it’s a “false dichotomy.” The bottom line is neither definition is right. A disease implies that it’s irreversible without treatment and doesn’t take our brain’s natural ability to adapt and form new connections into account. Meanwhile, to say it’s a choice indicates that rational and conscious thought are applied which is equally erroneous since the brain has a chemical imbalance when you have an addiction, effectively making rational thought impossible.

I never bought into the disease concept, however there’s no question addiction is a progressive condition. This seems to shed some light on the issue.
 
An interesting perspective on addiction..

https://www.sott.net/article/291714-Addiction-rooted-more-in-social-isolation-than-chemical-dependency

Taken from the article.

One of the ways this theory was first established is through rat experiments - ones that were injected into the American psyche in the 1980s, in a famous advert by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. You may remember it. The experiment is simple. Put a rat in a cage, alone, with two water bottles. One is just water. The other is water laced with heroin or cocaine. Almost every time you run this experiment, the rat will become obsessed with the drugged water, and keep coming back for more and more, until it kills itself.

The advert explains: "Only one drug is so addictive, nine out of ten laboratory rats will use it. And use it. And use it. Until dead. It's called cocaine. And it can do the same thing to you."

But in the 1970s, a Professor of Psychology in Vancouver called Bruce Alexander noticed something odd about this experiment. The rat is put in the cage all alone. It has nothing to do but take the drugs. What would happen, he wondered, if we tried this differently? So Professor Alexander built Rat Park. It is a lush cage where the rats would have colored balls and the best rat-food and tunnels to scamper down and plenty of friends: everything a rat about town could want. What, Alexander wanted to know, will happen then?

In Rat Park, all the rats obviously tried both water bottles, because they didn't know what was in them. But what happened next was startling.

The rats with good lives didn't like the drugged water. They mostly shunned it, consuming less than a quarter of the drugs the isolated rats used. None of them died. While all the rats who were alone and unhappy became heavy users, none of the rats who had a happy environment did.

At first, I thought this was merely a quirk of rats, until I discovered that there was - at the same time as the Rat Park experiment - a helpful human equivalent taking place. It was called the Vietnam War. Time magazine reported using heroin was "as common as chewing gum" among U.S. soldiers , and there is solid evidence to back this up: some 20 percent of U.S. soldiers had become addicted to heroin there, according to a study published in the Archives of General Psychiatry. Many people were understandably terrified: they believed a huge number of addicts were about the head home when the war ended.

But in fact, some 95 percent of the addicted soldiers - according to the same study - simply stopped. Very few had rehab. They shifted from a terrifying cage back to a pleasant one, so didn't want the drug any more.
 
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