Paralysis in dream following dream event

[Psalehesost]

I just woke up having had a dream which ended with a bit of narration, where a group existing in this dream was mentioned. What was said, though I initially misheard but the words were still echoing in my mind allowing me to pick it up some seconds later, was that this people has to suffer for their beliefs. Immediately after that was said I was suddenly hit by a massive, continuous force. I "woke up" but was still not really awake. At first completely paralyzed, I was eventually able to turn my head a bit, but not enough to see who/what it was located a bit away besides me directing this force against me. I remembered and began to recite the POTS to myself. As a I struggled on and had begun doing this, it suddenly ceased, and then I woke up for real.

Standard sleep paralysis or something more?

 

[The rabbit]

Is this the first time this has happened , the paralysis?

 

[Rhys]

Standard sleep paralysis or something more?

I would say something more. If you were lucid enough to feel like you had 'woken up' without being physically awake and then had this experience, then it sounds like you had a psychic attack. They can be frightening, even if you are used to them, and I think you did the right thing my reciting the POTS and and asking for help in this way. :)

If this happens again and you get paralysed, just stay calm and pipe breathe if you can. Sometimes you can move but it takes a combination of the right frame of mind and some will power. I usually just manage to shake my leg as a way of bringing myself to the waking world (and don't forget to tell/intend the entity to piss off )

 

[ALLusion]

I have to say I've had the same experience twice, very disconcerting. While paralysed I didn't know whether I was dreaming it or not, but something in me was fighting to try and move, and then in my vision (hard to tell whether it was a dream or not) I saw some dark figure in the corner and suddenly awoke terrified, this happened probably 8 or 9 months ago both within the space of a couple of weeks. I don't remember what I was dreming about before it happened, lucid is definitely the word to describe it, I hadn't thought about it for ages until reading this.

 

[nwigal]

I just woke up having had a dream which ended with a bit of narration, where a group existing in this dream was mentioned. What was said, though I initially misheard but the words were still echoing in my mind allowing me to pick it up some seconds later, was that this people has to suffer for their beliefs. Immediately after that was said I was suddenly hit by a massive, continuous force. I "woke up" but was still not really awake. At first completely paralyzed, I was eventually able to turn my head a bit, but not enough to see who/what it was located a bit away besides me directing this force against me. I remembered and began to recite the POTS to myself. As a I struggled on and had begun doing this, it suddenly ceased, and then I woke up for real.

Standard sleep paralysis or something more?

If I may be so bold to ask,would the group in your dream have any relation to any set or subset of the members of this forum? And do you remember if the force was located to the right or left?

 

[Psalehesost]

It is the first time in a long time, but going back some - perhaps one or two years - I've experienced somewhat similar things before.

What has happened before, going back, is that suddenly, in a dream, something suddenly became threatening (or something threatening appeared) and I felt an uncomfortable force directed at and "freezing" me much like today, often while facing a sudden adversary advancing towards me, and when I then struggled against it I woke up. Once or maybe twice I "felt" a "presence" rapidly moving away when I woke up more quickly. I vaguely recall that I sometimes similarly felt like I was waking up while struggling on before I actually woke up (in a sense, the onset of that sensation by itself forces me, by my instinctual response, somewhat awake and focused).

This was however the first time there was a vocal "message" (what was said was unexpected and broke the flow of the story of the dream before it - I've interpreted it as possibly referring to me, somewhat like a "threat").

Something good came of it though, for I decided afterward to focus on strengthening my resolve in always asserting whatever consciousness and free will (or seed thereof) I have. I came to feel that no matter what, if my free will cannot be bent and I persist, then nothing can, in the deepest sense, really harm me.

If I may be so bold to ask,would the group in your dream have any relation to any set or subset of the members of this forum? And do you remember if the force was located to the right or left?

The group (either not referring to real people or symbolical) was an addition to the dream story that appeared a few moments before the narration was diverted into the strange comment.

And it was to the right.

 

[Rhys]

I have to say I've had the same experience twice, very disconcerting. While paralysed I didn't know whether I was dreaming it or not, but something in me was fighting to try and move, and then in my vision (hard to tell whether it was a dream or not) I saw some dark figure in the corner and suddenly awoke terrified, this happened probably 8 or 9 months ago both within the space of a couple of weeks. I don't remember what I was dreming about before it happened, lucid is definitely the word to describe it, I hadn't thought about it for ages until reading this. [emphasis mine]

I think it's most likely an astral projection i.e. when the soul/astral body partially disconnects from the physical body and becomes aware of the astral plane, inclding the entities that reside there. Although I could be wrong as Gurdjieff says there are no such things except in rare esoterically advanced people (see Bodies in the Cassiopaea Glossary).

From personal experience, it feels like a limbo world between reality and dreaming, as it seems to contain elements of both. Intensity, lucidity and relation to 'normal' 3D perception can vary depending on the degree of separation from the physical body.

EDIT: Sorry if this adds confusion - this cannot be proved or disproved. At least there are a few of us having these experiences and can offer each other support !

 

[The rabbit]

I have had these experiences for as far back as I can remember , over 30 and some years at least. It always seems like there is something other , but that of course can not be proved and may not be the case. For a long time i feared this situation when in it. The last few years i fight it in some way to get back into the awake and moving state.

The last episode was a few nights back and when i was awake and moving once more I was being bombarded by the vibration that is known as the taos hum. A very deep vibration which is vibrating the body in some way im sure.

If this is the case then it is also effecting and vibrating all bodies of even those who can not hear or sense it. It may disrupt magnetic fields and this may cause the "entity "or "other " sensation that one may perceive . It is only my thoughts of late on this matter.

I worry in case this hum /vibration has a negative influence on those who can sleep through it even though it may be working on them.

 

[ines]

Oh, I am not alone with such a happening. I had a similar last night:

Last night I did some pipebreathing, after that I spoke the prayer of the soul until I fall asleep. Short after I woke up and felt a bit dizzy, the P.O.T.S. still in my head. I laid down again, the hot-water bag was still a bit warm, so I laid it on my stomach, startet to pray the P.O.T.S again, fell asleep again.

I only remember that I was fighting with my hot-water bag, in some way I was aware of this. I turned it left and right because of a big pressure on me, I heard myself muttering of burdens, and that they won´t get me, the P.O.T.S still in my head, until I woke up with a VERY strong vibration in my midsection. I needed half an our to calm me down and to breath normally.

 

[Angi]

It is very comforting and unnerving to know that this sleep paralysis happens to so much ppl. As Away With The Fairys said "I have had these experiences for as far back as I can remember". I am only 25, but the 3 most vivid memories of this sleep paralysis happening to me was midle school and the other 2 a few months back.

The 1st, I woke up one morning unable to move or speak. The only thing that I was able to do was blink my eyes. I could hear my father calling my name and because he didn't hear a reply he thought I was still asleep when the whole time, i was completely paralysed. After what felt like forever, I was finally able to wiggle my fingers, then my toes and finally i was able to move.

The 2nd time it happened, was a few months ago, I woke up to role over (u know, to get more comfortable) and i couldn't move. I tried to call for my boyfriend, but couldn't. It was the same as the first time, except this time it was the middle of the night, I now have a child who's crib is in our room(and behind me due to the direction I was facing) and i saw flashes of light coming from the direction of her crib. And just like the last time, after a minute or 2 i was finally able to move.

The 3rd time wasn't as bad. I was sleepin and it was as if i wasn't allowed to wake up until i had heard what this old man had to tell me. After he said what he needed to say, i woke up.

 

[taitai]

As far as I know, sleep paralysis is very common, I have experienced it myself. In my personal world view, has to do with the "spontaneous projection reflex" which happens when one falls asleep & the "astral" body slips out of alignment with the physical; at which point one can either choose to go on out of the body, or abort the experience by moving a small part of the body, such as a toe or the eyes, to break the "spell".

The entities that so many report are usually our own projected egos (as in the ego of fear, or of unworthiness etc) whose "purpose" is to send one back into 3-D; there are also reports of people encountering the sloughed-off astral bodies they inhabited in previous 3-D lives, which have a small degree of "life forece"remaining, & behave rather like sleepwalkers.

Then there is the so-called "Dweller at the Threshold" - said to be a projection, possibly of one's Higher Self, whose "purpose" is to test one's resolve & courage in the face of the unknown. How one reacts is a personal decision & choice, best made while in the waking state & followed through when the "entity" is encountered.

It is fear that is the true enemy here, not the perceived entity.

I would not be so bold as to advise anyone else on how to react in this situation, but in my own experiences I have "fought back" & consciously, "intentionally" refused to feed whatever it is that is trying to draw on the emotion of fear.

 

[cubbex]

I just woke up having had a dream which ended with a bit of narration, where a group existing in this dream was mentioned. What was said, though I initially misheard but the words were still echoing in my mind allowing me to pick it up some seconds later, was that this people has to suffer for their beliefs. Immediately after that was said I was suddenly hit by a massive, continuous force. I "woke up" but was still not really awake. At first completely paralyzed, I was eventually able to turn my head a bit, but not enough to see who/what it was located a bit away besides me directing this force against me. I remembered and began to recite the POTS to myself. As a I struggled on and had begun doing this, it suddenly ceased, and then I woke up for real.

Standard sleep paralysis or something more?

This is what I was living almost all the 2010 year and this year, but there is always like something dark in the dream that appears and bum, with paralysis. What is it??? someon told me something about the diet, change the diet the most I can, but the last time something fun happened, well I was like playing because this thing always appears, and I said "you again?" then I said "Jesus help me a little bro", I mean, I am tired of being sleeping and something is always waiting or stalking me, and that thing just flew away.

 

[dannybananny]

hen there is the so-called "Dweller at the Threshold" - said to be a projection, possibly of one's Higher Self, whose "purpose" is to test one's resolve & courage in the face of the unknown.

Or it can be some really nasty entity showing itself different then it really looks like, I agree that it's all about fear of unknown but sayings like that that those are higher selfs or other not so negative beings is naive and people could be easily used by them if they don't have that knowledge.

 

[Crystla24]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Lots of interesting info here, including the mythology of the dark figure/ figures.

I found this link intitially by thing of REM (Rapid Eye Movement) which is also in the links at the above site.

I really need to do a lot of reading and studying on this subject to more accurately connect these relations, but I believe the whole Atral Projection thing is also very related to all of this. When I was a young pre-teen early teen years, I had heard about being able to purposefully astral project during REM, maybe before or after REM. But I used to experiment and got quite good at purposely Astral Projecting (takes a ton of energy to do), i could control my spirit here in this sort of reality, but would eventually fall into a deeper sleep after being projected too long. I have had these "dark-figure" paralysis on completely different occasions where I felt like I accidently fell into REM (personal note, every time it happened I noticed my arms were crossed when I fell asleep). Mine usually seemed like I was awake and could see around me where I was actually laying, when the figures/figures would scare me. Another note, I don't know if actually has to do with the actual REM scientificly, but the word sticks with me since thats what i called it when i was young. I felt like the accidental scary paralyses one felt more like spirits had been messing with me, which never happened during purposeful astral projection. But when you are messing with different levels of being concious or unconcious it (the dark figures) could all very well be in your own head. I can do some more looking into this 'cause i find it very interesting anyway, and it should be scientificly analysed in a spiritual sense. There may already be (new age) info out there!