Pentagon Strike Alleged Witness: Charles H. Krohn

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There are several of these links that bring up errors, they no longer exist on the web. It would be useful if anyone could find them archived somewhere and if a thread has not been created for that witness, to create one in the same style.

Each of these testimonies and witnesses needs to be gone over with a fine-toothed comb. After all, the ONLY thing that keeps the "Flight 77 hit the Pentagon" thing going is the so-called witnesses.
Original link to Charles H. Krohn http://www.aviationnow.com/content/publication/awst/20010917/aw48.htm was blank

The web archive:
http://web.archive.org/web/20010919102542/http://www.aviationnow.com/content/publication/awst/20010917/aw48.htm


The quote from the following text that appears on WhatReallyHappened is underlined.

Pentagon Attack
Hits Navy Hard

DAVID A. FULGHUM/WASHINGTON

American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 loaded with enough fuel for a transcontinental journey, cleared the crest of a small ridge in Arlington, Va., by a few hundred feet with its engines wailing. It slightly lowered its nose, clipped trees and parking lot light poles, and then hit the Pentagon like a torpedo--at ground level and almost perpendicular to the outside wall.

The large aircraft struck the outermost corridor (E-ring) of the five-ring building at ground level (the second floor) at 9:43 a.m. EDT and continued smashing its way through the D and C rings. Navy survivors on the B-ring looked out their interior windows and saw flames and falling debris. They credit newly installed shatterproof windows in the just-renovated area with preventing hundreds of additional casualties from flying glass. Blast damage was also limited by new Kevlar panels, but they didn't protect those nearby from fires from exploding fuel tanks, estimated to have produced the equivalent of 200-400 tons of TNT.

Thomas D. Trapasso, a political appointee in the Clinton Administration who is now looking for work, was making telephone calls from his deck in Arlington Village, about 1 mi. south of the Pentagon and just west of the Interstate 395 (I-395) highway. He was startled by the large American Airlines aircraft flying about 300 ft. overhead. "The engines were just screaming, and the wheels were up," Trapasso said. "It disappeared over the trees, and I heard a boom. I knew something awful had happened--that an airplane had crashed somewhere in Washington, D.C. Then the cell phone went dead. I was scared."

Vice Adm. Darb Ryan, chief of naval personnel, was in his office at the Navy Annex about halfway between Trapasso's home and the Pentagon. Having learned that New York had been attacked, he was on the telephone recommending the evacuation of the Pentagon "when out of the corner of my eye I saw the airplane" a split second before it struck.

Ryan was overheard reporting some of the initial damage assessment, which included spaces belonging to the chief of naval operations (CNO), the Navy's tactical command center on the D-ring, an operations cell and a Navy intelligence command center. These included up to four special, highly classified, electronically secure areas. Many of the enlisted sailors involved were communications technicians with cryptology training who are key personnel in intelligence gathering and analysis. Some personnel were known to be trapped alive in the wreckage.

OTHER NAVY PERSONNEL confirmed the admiral's initial assessment and said the dead numbered around 190, 64 on the aircraft. Among them was Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude, who was in the Army support and logistics section. Many others were Navy captains, commanders and lieutenant commanders with offices between the fourth and fifth corridors (the western wedge of the Pentagon). The Navy's special operations office, which oversees classified programs, had moved out of the spaces only a few days before. All but one of the senior Navy flag officers were out of the building. Vice Adm. Dennis McGinn, deputy CNO for warfare requirements and programs, was near the impact area but escaped without injury.

One of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility, said Charles H. Krohn, the Army's deputy chief of public affairs. Those fleeing the building heard a loud secondary explosion about 10 min. after the initial impact.

The E-ring floors above the tunnel dug by the aircraft collapsed, leaving a gap in the Pentagon's outer wall perhaps 150 ft. wide. Fuel triggered an intense fire that caused the roof of the damaged E-ring section to give way at 10:10 a.m. It was still burning 18 hr. later. Fire fighting was hampered by reports that twice sent personnel fleeing the area. First, at around 11:28 a.m., a warning that "an aircraft is in the air" sent police, FBI and other security personnel to passages under I-395 that lead away from the Pentagon. They quickly returned, but at 11:34, shouted and radioed warnings of another possible explosion sent people running again. However, by 11:40 FBI teams had returned with brown paper bags and gloves to scour the Pentagon grounds for debris in an area bordered by Pentagon City, Arlington Cemetery and the Potomac River.

F-16s from the District of Columbia Air National Guard periodically circled the Pentagon at altitudes low enough to frighten grade school teachers and students in nearby Alexandria. Later, the patrols were shifted to a higher altitude and continued through the night.

Confusion about what had happened, among the 20,000-24,000 employees leaving the Pentagon on foot in long lines, largely reflected where they were in the building when the aircraft struck. The Navy and Army spaces absorbed the damage. Navy officers not in the aircraft's direct path reported heavy safes being flung across rooms and people thrown from their chairs. They variously identified major damage between the fourth and fifth or third and fourth corridors. No one knew the full extent of the damage. Air Force officers on the opposite side of the building heard or felt nothing until alarms went off. Even then, they thought it was a false fire alarm until orders were passed to evacuate the building.

Everyone was told to go to their rally points in the parking lots. Those involved said the evacuation was well-organized and orderly and far less emotional than at the nearby Capitol. There, a number of evacuees were said to have become emotionally distraught. Once outside, Pentagon employees were told to go home. This complicated the casualty assessment for the Navy and Army because no one knew precisely who had gone home and who was still in the building.
 
Below follows the article from Aviation Now with some divisions according to who the alleged source is for the information. The sections used by What Really Happened are underlined. There are a few comments in between.
[S15WP00=Journalist or Unkown]
[S15WP01= WRHW25=Thomas D. Trapasso, "a political appointee in the Clinton Administration, who is now looking for work"]
[S15WP02=Darb Ryan, Vice Adm, chief of naval personnel, who works at the Nawy Annex]
[S15WP03=OTHER NAVY PERSONNEL]
[S15WP04=WRHW16=Charles H. Krohn, "the Army's deputy chief of public affairs."]

[S15WP00=Journalist or Unkown]
Pentagon Attack
Hits Navy Hard
DAVID A. FULGHUM/WASHINGTON

American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757 loaded with enough fuel for a transcontinental journey, cleared the crest of a small ridge in Arlington, Va., by a few hundred feet with its engines wailing. It slightly lowered its nose, clipped trees and parking lot light poles, and then hit the Pentagon like a torpedo--at ground level and almost perpendicular to the outside wall.
The large aircraft struck the outermost corridor (E-ring) of the five-ring building at ground level (the second floor) at 9:43 a.m. EDT and continued smashing its way through the D and C rings. Navy survivors on the B-ring looked out their interior windows and saw flames and falling debris. They credit newly installed shatterproof windows in the just-renovated area with preventing hundreds of additional casualties from flying glass. Blast damage was also limited by new Kevlar panels, but they didn't protect those nearby from fires from exploding fuel tanks, estimated to have produced the equivalent of 200-400 tons of TNT.
The time of strike was earlier than 9 :43 a.m, as we have seen a number of times. The plane is compared to a torpedo so the source is a Navy person, but apart from that, it is a quite fitting analogy.

The object did not hit perpendicular according to some other analysts. If one looks at the photo material, and flight path calculations of which some is on page two in the introduction, then how could it be perpendicular? One wonders what other inaccuracies are hiding behind the assumed accurateness. 200-400 tons of TNT is a blast calculation with a margin, it may depend partially on what speed is attributed to the object since the kinetic energy increases proportionately to the velocity squared. Although there are many experiences of the blast I think 200-400 tons is a bit much. One should recalculate all this. But who can do it?

The exploding fuel tanks are also mentioned in the Don Fortunato [/url ]article . One way of explaining them, is to say that they were meant for the helicopters on the helipad, and their explosion can be explained by saying that fragments from the impacting object were flung against and penetrated the containers. And because these fragments had been heated by the deformation (if not by explosives!) they ended up igniting the fuel that leaked out leading to the subsequent explosions.

Regarding where there was damage Source 14, that is the [url=http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=1145]James R. Cissell
article had this about the damage : [S14WP10= a 37-year-old Marine major] Another Pentagon employee, a 37-year-old Marine major, said he was at a meeting in the innermost A Ring when he heard a thud and felt the building shudder. He and his colleagues rushed to help rescue people from an area that appeared most heavily damaged, the B Ring between corridors 4 and 5. If one is to believe this present text then it must have been some other ring where the major was working. Or was it that people from Rings D and C flet to Ring B to get out from there, because they could not get out the other way

[S15WP01=WRHW25 =Thomas D. Trapasso, "a political appointee in the Clinton Administration, who is now looking for work"]
Thomas D. Trapasso, a political appointee in the Clinton Administration who is now looking for work, was making telephone calls from his deck in Arlington Village, about 1 mi. south of the Pentagon and just west of the Interstate 395 (I-395) highway. He was startled by the large American Airlines aircraft flying about 300 ft. overhead. "The engines were just screaming, and the wheels were up," Trapasso said. "It disappeared over the trees, and I heard a boom. I knew something awful had happened--that an airplane had crashed somewhere in Washington, D.C. Then the cell phone went dead. I was scared."
Being just west of the Interstate 395, he should have been much closer to the craft at one moment than his usual distance to the Pentagon. The object seen by Mr. Trapasso is described in the words of the journalist as '' the large American Airlines aircraft'' but then Mr. Trapasso is quoted as saying that he perceived ''AN AIRPLANE had crashed somewhere in Washington, D.C.'' The difference in formulation leaves me in doubt if he really saw '' the large American Airlines aircraft'', which is expected to be understood as the missing B-757/flight 77 In the David Battle article there are actually two alleged wiitnesses who report it as being a B-737.

The dead cell phone could be due to a lot of people wanting to use the lines at the same time. It does not have to be some way of shutting down communication. I live in a part of the world where the network sometimes collapses temporarily for either voice calls and or sms. due to use in excess of capacity. The article from Aviation Now continues:

[S15WP02=Darb Ryan, Vice Adm, chief of naval personnel, who works at the Nawy Annex]
Vice Adm. Darb Ryan, chief of naval personnel, was in his office at the Navy Annex about halfway between Trapasso's home and the Pentagon. Having learned that New York had been attacked, he was on the telephone recommending the evacuation of the Pentagon "when out of the corner of my eye I saw the airplane" a split second before it struck.
Ryan was overheard reporting some of the initial damage assessment, which included spaces belonging to the chief of naval operations (CNO), the Navy's tactical command center on the D-ring, an operations cell and a Navy intelligence command center. These included up to four special, highly classified, electronically secure areas. Many of the enlisted sailors involved were communications technicians with cryptology training who are key personnel in intelligence gathering and analysis. Some personnel were known to be trapped alive in the wreckage.
If the Naval Annex is half a mile from the Pentagon and the object moved at 360 miles per hour then Vice Adm.Darb Ryan, has splitseconds which are 7 seconds long, that is 5 seconds for the object to reach the Pentagon and just over two seconds for the sound blast to reach him back.

[S15WP03= OTHER NAVY PERSONNEL]
OTHER NAVY PERSONNEL confirmed the admiral's initial assessment and said the dead numbered around 190, 64 on the aircraft. Among them was Lt. Gen. Timothy Maude, who was in the Army support and logistics section. Many others were Navy captains, commanders and lieutenant commanders with offices between the fourth and fifth corridors (the western wedge of the Pentagon). The Navy's special operations office, which oversees classified programs, had moved out of the spaces only a few days before. All but one of the senior Navy flag officers were out of the building. Vice Adm. Dennis McGinn, deputy CNO for warfare requirements and programs, was near the impact area but escaped without injury.
Some were not there others had moved out a few days before, - lucky for them.

[S15WP04= WRHW16=Charles H. Krohn, "the Army's deputy chief of public affairs."]
One of the aircraft's engines somehow ricocheted out of the building and arched into the Pentagon's mall parking area between the main building and the new loading dock facility, said Charles H. Krohn, the Army's deputy chief of public affairs. Those fleeing the building heard a loud secondary explosion about 10 min. after the initial impact.
If the object dug like a tunnel into the building as mentioned above and if as now it is reported that one engine ricocheted out, then how did it get in there in the first place considering that the hole fitted the body but not the wings ? Where would that engine have been sitting? In the article with Frank Probst article from Military City they say of the right side engine: ''He dove to his right. He recalls the engine passing on one side of him, about six feet away. The plane's right wing went through a generator trailer "like butter," Probst said. The starboard engine hit a low cement wall and blew apart..'' That is the explanation why there is no right wing engine, but the left wing engine? Is that the one that entered the building and then came out?

Another possibility is to say that in fact there was no right engine. The reason is that it does not make too much sense for me to say that on the one hand the wing went through the generator like butter but a huge 757 engine blew on a small cement wall. Perhaps there was only one engine on the tail of the plane, it went therefore into the building and came out because of explosives used to penetrate.

[S15WP00=Journalist or Unkown]
The E-ring floors above the tunnel dug by the aircraft collapsed, leaving a gap in the Pentagon's outer wall perhaps 150 ft. wide. Fuel triggered an intense fire that caused the roof of the damaged E-ring section to give way at 10:10 a.m. It was still burning 18 hr. later. Fire fighting was hampered by reports that twice sent personnel fleeing the area. First, at around 11:28 a.m., a warning that "an aircraft is in the air" sent police, FBI and other security personnel to passages under I-395 that lead away from the Pentagon. They quickly returned, but at 11:34, shouted and radioed warnings of another possible explosion sent people running again. However, by 11:40 FBI teams had returned with brown paper bags and gloves to scour the Pentagon grounds for debris in an area bordered by Pentagon City, Arlington Cemetery and the Potomac River.
F-16s from the District of Columbia Air National Guard periodically circled the Pentagon at altitudes low enough to frighten grade school teachers and students in nearby Alexandria. Later, the patrols were shifted to a higher altitude and continued through the night.
In the Mickey Bell article, Greg Cobaugh is to have said : ''Security officers told them to run, as there was a threat of another plane 10 miles away, headed for the Pentagon.'' Possibly the reason for the alarms is to be deduced from the sequence of events which led to : ''However, by 11:40 FBI teams had returned with brown paper bags and gloves to scour the Pentagon grounds for debris in an area bordered by Pentagon City, Arlington Cemetery and the Potomac River.''

About this event The Washington Post noted in the Terrance Kean article: By afternoon, the investigation was underway. At one point, a column of 50 FBI officers walked shoulder-to-shoulder across the south grounds of the Pentagon, picking up debris and stuffing it into brown bags. The lawn was scattered with chunks of the airplane, some up to four feet across.'' I am just wondering how to fit remains of a 757 into a few paperbags, but apparently not much debris or aircraft appeared at the Pentagon anyway, so that aspect must have facilitated the clean up job by FBI. One problem with the bomb scare is that it could have led to added violation of the crime scene which in a certain sense also happened by the fire that was left to regain force.

[S15WP05=Pentagon Employees]
Confusion about what had happened, among the 20,000-24,000 employees leaving the Pentagon on foot in long lines, largely reflected where they were in the building when the aircraft struck. The Navy and Army spaces absorbed the damage. Navy officers not in the aircraft's direct path reported heavy safes being flung across rooms and people thrown from their chairs. They variously identified major damage between the fourth and fifth or third and fourth corridors. No one knew the full extent of the damage. Air Force officers on the opposite side of the building heard or felt nothing until alarms went off. Even then, they thought it was a false fire alarm until orders were passed to evacuate the building.
Everyone was told to go to their rally points in the parking lots. Those involved said the evacuation was well-organized and orderly and far less emotional than at the nearby Capitol. There, a number of evacuees were said to have become emotionally distraught. Once outside, Pentagon employees were told to go home. This complicated the casualty assessment for the Navy and Army because no one knew precisely who had gone home and who was still in the building.[1]
This article gives some details, but the 757 is increasingly disappearing.

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