Philosopher's Stone

[nate]

I did not know where to put this topic so i put it here.
I read in the transcripts that the Philosopher's stone is an idea center and can be accessed by meditation and visualizing a prism or a diamond.
I want to know how exactly do you visualize the diamond. Does it have to be surounding your body or just an image of a diamond.
And what is the idea center? do you find info on how to make the universal medicine? or transmute metals?

 

[pirataloko]

I did not know where to put this topic so i put it here.
I read in the transcripts that the Philosopher's stone is an idea center and can be accessed by meditation and visualizing a prism or a diamond.
I want to know how exactly do you visualize the diamond. Does it have to be surounding your body or just an image of a diamond.
And what is the idea center? do you find info on how to make the universal medicine? or transmute metals?

Hi Nathaniel.

In meditation basically there are two ways. Meditaion with "seed" (that's meditate focusing in something like an image, a sound even a feeling), and meditation without "seed" (that's meditate with an empty mind, focusing in nothing).

In the case you ask, the meditation is with "seed" and the idea is to visualize in your mind an image of a diamond or prisma and focus in it.

In my personal understanding the Philosopher's stone is like to find inside yourself your real identity, and be able to manifest your real self abroad.

All the information about alchemy, transmute metals .... etc, i think is based in an internal process. There is the posibility that it implies a lot of changes in the individual in the sense of DNA changes among other things and wake up latent abilities, in the case of people that succeed with this work i don't know if things like make the universal medicine or transmute metals, are a consequence of internal change that can be manifest in the external world, in any case it sound like the 4 density where it's supposed that people could manifest everything they want... even healthtly pizzas ;D like a forum member dreamed.

I hope my answer can help you.

 

[Mixtli]

As Pirataloko said the philosopher stone, IMHO, is a how not much a what. Is Finding your real I by following the way. I hope someday we will find some of the truths behind the philosopher`s stone concept.

 

[mkrnhr]

In "The Secret History of the World", there is a chapter called "The Nature of the Quest", where the subject of the Philosopher Stone and the Grail are discussed. As I remember the part about "thinking with a hammer".

 

[nate]

The Transcripts say the philosopher's stone is an idea center. What does it mean by idea center?

 

[pirataloko]

The Transcripts say the philosopher's stone is an idea center. What does it mean by idea center?

I guess you are refering to thoughts centers, acording to this material they're high densities entities that we are aligned with. So in this case there are STS (no-being) and STO (being) thoughts centers. Through the work: meditation, will, elections.... we can to connect with these diferent thoughts centers changing the way we think and how we act accordingly.

I suggest you to read all the material recommended, all these questions are answered in the material and there's always plenty to discover.

 

[Pierre]

The Transcripts say the philosopher's stone is an idea center. What does it mean by idea center?

Hi Nathaniel,

The end of the Wave part III, chapter XXVII in particular, deals with ideas/thoughts centers. You might want to (re-)read it.

 

[nate]

OK. i was meditating on the diamond and then i see a golden door and everything is white. but then i just wake up. well thats what happen

 

[Laura]

OK. i was meditating on the diamond and then i see a golden door and everything is white. but then i just wake up. well thats what happen

Nathaniel, aren't you writing about needing a job in this other thread here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18377.0 ??

Read my response to you there. You get out of life exactly what you put into it. Right now, your concern over the "Philosopher's Stone" is evidence of you trying to do higher math before you can do simple arithmetic. In other words, you need to learn how to deal with your life before you can "go esoteric."

 

[nate]

OK. i was meditating on the diamond and then i see a golden door and everything is white. but then i just wake up. well thats what happen

Nathaniel, aren't you writing about needing a job in this other thread here: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18377.0 ??

Read my response to you there. You get out of life exactly what you put into it. Right now, your concern over the "Philosopher's Stone" is evidence of you trying to do higher math before you can do simple arithmetic. In other words, you need to learn how to deal with your life before you can "go esoteric."

your right.. i was thinking that yesterday last night.. i feel so dumb. But this meditation with the diamond happened a few months ago i just put it up.

 

[Mixtli]

Laura is right. And she surely rang a bell for me. I understand you nathaniel. I sometimes try to go the highway (the esoteric way) as a way to avoid the low one (life in general). I have to be sincere and say that I am not doing the best of efforts to get a great job. Although I have some perspectives on the horizon. I some times just self indulge in waiting and reading and not doing much of searching for new projects.