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[ELTE2307]

Hi, :D

I've read the C material a few times ago and the least I can say is that it's disturbing. Even if it seems coherent I still stay very careful about it.

I read the transcripts twice and I found some "oddities" that I'd like you to comment:

March 4, 1995 F***, Laura, TR and JR, SV

Q: (L) To whom does Jupiter appear as a flaming sun, at what level?



A: 5, 6, and 7.



December 12, 1995 F***, Laura

Q: (L) Do beings inhabit Jupiter?



A: 5th density and up.



How can beings (even non human) live on a star ?



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March 15, 1997



Q: So, a proton comes from seventh density, but the electron does

not.

A: Not mutually exclusive.





March 29, 1997



Q: (L) OK. Does an electron have a memory?

A: Electron is borrowed unit of 7th density.



So, Does an electron come from 7th density ?



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If we “pass our exam” and, so to speak go up to a density higher due to the passage of the wave,
so should the lezzies also do. Why isn’t it the case ?



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In one of the transcript, there was talk about the fact that “we only exist because we have been
dreamed”

But we’re also been said that we don’t have any beginning or end.

Please comment on this




Just one last questions if I may, Laura.

- Are you still in touch with the C's (now probably named the Lio's) ?



Best regards


ELTE

 

[PepperFritz]

I've read the C material a few times ago and the least I can say is that it's disturbing. Even if it seems coherent I still stay very careful about it.

I read the transcripts twice and I found some "oddities" that I'd like you to comment:

Hello ELTE, welcome to the forum.

You have highlighted the reason that we strongly discourage people from reading the transcripts by themselves, outside of the context of Laura's work. Without the the relevant background information and perspective that Laura provides, it is very easy to misunderstand and misinterpret the raw transcripts.

Rather than try to explain the meaning of the brief, isolated, out-of-context quotes you have provided, I am going to recommend that you start by reading Laura's Wave series (in its entirety) before you wade too far in with posting and asking questions on the forum, as the ideas and concepts presented in that work form the basis for most discussions here. Her Adventures With Cassiopaea would be an excellent follow-up.

In the meantime, it's a good idea to bookmark the Cassiopaea Esoteric Glossary and the Cassiopedia, as they are very useful references that can be used when you encounter concepts/terminology that you may not be familiar with. They should be consulted before posting questions on the forum; also remember to use the forum's "Search" function to see whether your question might have been posed/responded to previously.

Enjoy your reading!

:)

 

[christx11]

Welcome ELTE.

Hi, :D

I've read the C material a few times ago and the least I can say is that it's disturbing. Even if it seems coherent I still stay very careful about it.

I read the transcripts twice and I found some "oddities" that I'd like you to comment:

March 4, 1995 F***, Laura, TR and JR, SV

Q: (L) To whom does Jupiter appear as a flaming sun, at what level?
A: 5, 6, and 7.

December 12, 1995 F***, Laura
Q: (L) Do beings inhabit Jupiter?
A: 5th density and up.

How can beings (even non human) live on a star?

If you consider the possibility that 6th density unified thought-form beings of light exist, that are entirely non-physical, then your question should answer itself. Life and beings do not have to be physical and even physical beings can be of a form entirely outside of our understanding as a possibility.

March 15, 1997
Q: So, a proton comes from seventh density, but the electron does not.
A: Not mutually exclusive.

March 29, 1997
Q: (L) OK. Does an electron have a memory?
A: Electron is borrowed unit of 7th density.

So, Does an electron come from 7th density ?

If you look up what 'mutually exclusive' means and negate it you will have your answer.

If we “pass our exam” and, so to speak go up to a density higher due to the passage of the wave, so should the lezzies also do. Why isn’t it the case ?

Read more. 4th density is the highest level of physicality. STS cannot go higher than 4th except through 5th recycling back into 1-4.

In one of the transcript, there was talk about the fact that “we only exist because we have been dreamed”

But we’re also been said that we don’t have any beginning or end.

Please comment on this

Can't comment. I don't think the transcript says this in the context you present. I think I know what you are talking about, but I see no contradiction. I think you are remembering the passages that someone else from a higher level is thinking us. I don't see where that has anything to do with there not being a beginning or end. You would have to be much more clearer in what you mean. Why would one have anything to do with the other?

Just one last questions if I may, Laura.

- Are you still in touch with the C's (now probably named the Lio's) ?

Best regards
ELTE

If you use the search function for 'transcripts' or just click on the forum thread - The Cassiopaean Experiment, you would have your answer.

As Pepperfritz' recommends - taking the transcripts out of context is very easy to do.

Anyway - welcome. I hope you find the time to introduce yourself on the newbies thread.

 

[ELTE2307]

Thank's both of you.

I read the transcipts twice but obviously not that carefully.

Have mirth

ELTE

 

[kenlee]

How can beings (even non human) live on a star ?

It may due to the limitations of our perceptual apparatus that we have difficulty of picturing this. One way of trying to understand this (at least as an analogy, although this might not be a good one since this analogy is linear) is that seemingly unconnected events have inner connections that are not perceptible to our senses but nevertheless are still connected, much in the same way as input/output (voltage) signals are connected in an electronic system that run though connected, but separate, circuit boards within that system. Although in this case the signals are linear (i.e., input/output} the voltage signals have an (almost) simultaneous ‘presence’ throughout the entire system since they move with such high speed throughout the system.

For example, there are events in our past that, although they seem disconnected from our present moment of experience, are in reality still ‘present’ with us and are still connected within the framework of a larger expanded present moment. So the past events are not perceived as connected but the unseen, inner, connections are there, and are as real as the way the parts of the body are connected in a physical body (something that we can perceive).

So from this it may be that a ‘body’ can be a field of experience (or something like that) and that there are bodies that are connected, not as a singular body as we perceive it with our senses (as a single unit) but the connections are kinda dispersed; a part here, a part over there, a part over there and so on but still connected as a ‘field of experience’

If we “pass our exam” and, so to speak go up to a density higher due to the passage of the wave,
so should the lezzies also do. Why isn’t it the case ?

On this you might want to research the term 'wishful thinking' and how it applies to the Service to Self path.
http://www.cassiopedia.org/glossary/Wishful_Thinking

 

[PepperFritz]

I read the transcipts twice but obviously not that carefully.

With all due respect, you seem to be missing the point. It doesn't matter how "carefully" you read the transcripts, you will not fully and accurately understand them unless you read them within the context of Laura's work, specifically the Wave series. After all, the C's clearly state that they are Laura in the future, and she cannot be taken out of the equation.

Again, we recommend that new members of the forum do not wade too far into posting on the forum before they read the Wave series, as the ideas and concepts presented in that work form the basis for most discussions on the forum.

The ideas of Gurdjieff are also integral to this forum. If you're not familiar with Gurdjieff, you can read some basic information about his 4th Way teaching, generally referred to here as "the Work", by clicking on the links in this paragraph. It is a method of self-examination recommended to and practiced by most members of this forum, as a way of seeing ourselves, others, and the world around us from the perspective of OBJECTIVITY, rather through the distorting prism of our own SUBJECTIVITY -- i.e., our emotional issues, programs, mechanical behaviour, buffers, sacred cows, and wishful thinking. The Work benefits from active participation in a group/network like this, where others also involved in the Work can provide feedback and act as a mirror in which we can see ourselves more clearly.

 

[Karoline Von]

Thank's both of you.

I read the transcipts twice but obviously not that carefully.

Have mirth

ELTE

Dear Elte,

It is nice to see your good spirit showing in your reading and re-reading of the transcripts. Your questions are good ones indeed from a well observed point of view.

I read some of the answers sent to you.
And I Remember that the Cassiopaeans themselves rated their accuracy at 82% - 85%... or closely around these figures.

Also, remember that freedom is everything.
So in view of freedom, I would encourage you to trust your inner knowledge above the knowledge of others ... and you will be on the right path, my friend, yours!

Since the Light is within, it is from within you that you will find true answers to your questions, in meditation, the kind of silent one.

Kind Regards,

Kristal Swan

 

[anart]

Dear Elte,

It is nice to see your good spirit showing in your reading and re-reading of the transcripts. Your questions are good ones indeed from a well observed point of view.

I read some of the answers sent to you.
And I Remember that the Cassiopaeans themselves rated their accuracy at 82% - 85%... or closely around these figures.

Also, remember that freedom is everything.
So in view of freedom, I would encourage you to trust your inner knowledge above the knowledge of others ... and you will be on the right path, my friend, yours!

Since the Light is within, it is from within you that you will find true answers to your questions, in meditation, the kind of silent one.

Kind Regards,

Kristal Swan

Hi Kristal, since you're new to the forum, it would be appreciated if you would post an introductory post in the newbies section just to let the forum know who you are and whether you've read any of Laura's works yet. From your advice to ELTE, it seems you might not be aware of the work of GI Gurdjieff, another main premise of this forum, so if you could introduce yourself, we might be able to move forward from there!

 

[Karoline Von]

Dear Elte,

It is nice to see your good spirit showing in your reading and re-reading of the transcripts. Your questions are good ones indeed from a well observed point of view.

I read some of the answers sent to you.
And I Remember that the Cassiopaeans themselves rated their accuracy at 82% - 85%... or closely around these figures.

Also, remember that freedom is everything.
So in view of freedom, I would encourage you to trust your inner knowledge above the knowledge of others ... and you will be on the right path, my friend, yours!

Since the Light is within, it is from within you that you will find true answers to your questions, in meditation, the kind of silent one.

Kind Regards,

Kristal Swan

Hi Kristal, since you're new to the forum, it would be appreciated if you would post an introductory post in the newbies section just to let the forum know who you are and whether you've read any of Laura's works yet. From your advice to ELTE, it seems you might not be aware of the work of GI Gurdjieff, another main premise of this forum, so if you could introduce yourself, we might be able to move forward from there!

Greetings Anart,
Ok, I'll post soon to the newbies place if it is a prerequisite. The website has changed so dramatically and so many times since when Laura started. I have indeed read all Laura's work since before she moved to South West France with her family (except her elder daughter) and, most of her work afterwards. I am also aware of Gurdjieff work; I've read it 25 years ago as well as Ouspensky's work. So, rest in Peace.
Kind Regards,
Kristal swan

 

[anart]

Greetings Anart,
Ok, I'll post soon to the newbies place if it is a prerequisite.

Oh, it's not necessarily a prerequisite as much as it is externally considerate.

The website has changed so dramatically and so many times since when Laura started. I have indeed read all Laura's work since before she moved to South West France with her family (except her elder daughter) and, most of her work afterwards. I am also aware of Gurdjieff work; I've read it 25 years ago as well as Ouspensky's work.

That's great! I was just wondering since you wrote this:

So in view of freedom, I would encourage you to trust your inner knowledge above the knowledge of others ... and you will be on the right path, my friend, yours!

Since the Light is within, it is from within you that you will find true answers to your questions, in meditation, the kind of silent one.

Which would strongly contradict Gurdjieff's teachings that we cannot trust ourselves to be correct - that we are mechanical and until we learn not to be, we lie to ourselves in all things, every day. In fact, to rely on our own inner knowledge in our current state, is to never advance or evolve at all.

So, rest in Peace.

Rest in Peace? Isn't that what people say when someone has died? Apologies for the question, but it just seems a bit out of place. ;) I look forward to your introduction post!

 

[Laura]

Dear Elte,

It is nice to see your good spirit showing in your reading and re-reading of the transcripts. Your questions are good ones indeed from a well observed point of view.

I read some of the answers sent to you.
And I Remember that the Cassiopaeans themselves rated their accuracy at 82% - 85%... or closely around these figures.

Also, remember that freedom is everything.
So in view of freedom, I would encourage you to trust your inner knowledge above the knowledge of others ... and you will be on the right path, my friend, yours!

Since the Light is within, it is from within you that you will find true answers to your questions, in meditation, the kind of silent one.

Kind Regards,

Kristal Swan

Sorry, Kristal, but your philosophical tendencies, along with your word salad abilities, disqualify you as a member of this forum. Take your own advice and follow your own lights; I'm sure they will take you where you want to go.