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In Guardian's Introductory thread, a reference was made to a couple of articles. I had seen a reference to them before, but lost them, somehow, so thanks, Laura. Since the links in question reappeared in this context, I wanted to comment on them without hijacking Guardian's thread, so I thought I'd post this here instead.
If anyone has anything to add to this, or whatever, feedback is invited.
On the subject of acceptance of pedophilia, lifesitenews describes this as "licentiousness as the new morality". The Lisbon Treaty article explains it as "they want to placate the Arab muslims."
To me, this is strongly suggestive of a society-level schizoid alter personality/negative introject operating in the political environment. There are still many older people in politics, religion and other fields that well remember, or otherwise pine for the "old days" and don't seem to like seeing individuals/states in contemporary culture, trying to individuate more and more from the established authority, or even from "their shameful past".
These stories bring to mind what Margaret Mahler terms “separation and individuation anxiety.”1
What are "the old days?"
Consider that during the Weimer Republic in Germany, kind words were rare in German homes. There were all kinds of “obedience rituals” in German families that were designed to make the child “always good.”
Priests used children for sex then too.2 Both boys and girls regularly were raped in schools, by teachers and older students, and there were even special schools espousing “pedagogical Eros”—the benefits of teachers using students for sex “to help learning.”3
Children were given away and even sometimes sold 4 to relatives, neighbors, courts, priests, foundling homes, schools, friends, strangers, "traveling scholars" (to be used as beggars) - anyone who would take them - so that for much of history only a minority of German children lived their entire childhoods under their family roof.
This is in no way restricted to Germany, Austria or even Europe though. No country or state or period in history has been immune from child-hating and abusing practices - especially pedophilia.
Parents are known to have handed over their children to the brothels, bath-houses and temples that could be found in any city of antiquity.4 Physicians advocated the rape of children as a way to overcome depression and as a cure for venereal disease.5 Most political leaders kept children to rape, like Nero, who roamed about daily, raping boys who he found in the streets and in brothels.6
Priests also commonly used confessions to solicit sex with boys, but early Christian penitentials assessed penances only for the boys, since they were blamed for their own rape. Peter Damian said in the eleventh century that sex with boys in monasteries "rages like a bloodthirsty beast in the midst of the sheepfold of Christ with bold freedom" and suggested both the man and boy be punished as accomplices for a "sin against nature."8
Further, A common practice in the Church that dates back to the 800s and was probably known but disapproved of by St. Peter Damian, is that of removing clerics found guilty of criminal acts, including sodomy, on the basis of whether or not their offenses were publicly known, or carried out and confessed in secret.
In cases that had become "notorious," the offending cleric was defrocked and/or handed over to the secular authorities for punishment. If his crime was known only to a few persons such as his confessor or religious superior, the offending cleric was privately reprimanded, served a penance, and then was permitted to continue at his post, or transferred to a similar post in a different diocese. 9 This practice has been somewhat modified today by using so-called "treatment centers" or homosexual/pederast-friendly dioceses to squirrel away offending clergy until the heat is off. However, as Bernard Cardinal Law and many of his fellow bishops have discovered to their everlasting regret, today's instant mass communication, electronic tracking systems and access to public and private records of all kinds, is making it much more difficult to hide offending clergy or conceal criminal sexual abuse committed either by hierarchy or by priests and religious under their jurisdiction.
So, in the light of the knowledge of history, it seems obvious that it is neither a 'new morality', nor a 'concession to Arab Muslims', but rather little more than reaching for any excuse possible to keep the "old ways" in the NWO. OSIT
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1
Margaret Mahler, et al, The Psychological Birth of the Human Infant. New York: Basic Books, 1975; also see Eli Sagan, At the Dawn of Tyranny: The Origins of Individualism, Political Oppression, and the State. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1985, p. 358
2
Hans-Georg Behr, Almost a Childhood: Growing Up Among the Nazis. London: Granta Books, 2005, pp. 262-3.
3
Lloyd deMause, The Emotional Life of Nations, p. 199.
4
Aurel Ende, "Battering and Neglect," p. 252
5
Edward Brongersma, Loving Boys, p. 79-82; Craig A. Williams, Roman Homosexuality: Ideologies of Masculinity in Classical Antiquity. New York: Oxford, University Press, 1999; Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women and Rape. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1975, p. 19.
6
Lloyd deMause, “The History of Child Abuse.” The Journal of Psychohistory 25(1998): 224.
7
Sander J. Breiner, Slaughter of the Innocents, p. 122.
8
Peter Damian, Book of Gomorrah. Waterloo: Wilfred Laurier University Press, 1982, pp. 27, 42.
9
_http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/articles/damian2.htm
Pierre J. Payer, Book of Gomorrah - An Eleventh-Century Treatise Against Clerical Homosexual Practices, Wilfrid Laurier, University Press, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, 1982, p. 17
If anyone has anything to add to this, or whatever, feedback is invited.
Laura said:
On the subject of acceptance of pedophilia, lifesitenews describes this as "licentiousness as the new morality". The Lisbon Treaty article explains it as "they want to placate the Arab muslims."
To me, this is strongly suggestive of a society-level schizoid alter personality/negative introject operating in the political environment. There are still many older people in politics, religion and other fields that well remember, or otherwise pine for the "old days" and don't seem to like seeing individuals/states in contemporary culture, trying to individuate more and more from the established authority, or even from "their shameful past".
These stories bring to mind what Margaret Mahler terms “separation and individuation anxiety.”1
What are "the old days?"
Consider that during the Weimer Republic in Germany, kind words were rare in German homes. There were all kinds of “obedience rituals” in German families that were designed to make the child “always good.”
Priests used children for sex then too.2 Both boys and girls regularly were raped in schools, by teachers and older students, and there were even special schools espousing “pedagogical Eros”—the benefits of teachers using students for sex “to help learning.”3
Children were given away and even sometimes sold 4 to relatives, neighbors, courts, priests, foundling homes, schools, friends, strangers, "traveling scholars" (to be used as beggars) - anyone who would take them - so that for much of history only a minority of German children lived their entire childhoods under their family roof.
This is in no way restricted to Germany, Austria or even Europe though. No country or state or period in history has been immune from child-hating and abusing practices - especially pedophilia.
Parents are known to have handed over their children to the brothels, bath-houses and temples that could be found in any city of antiquity.4 Physicians advocated the rape of children as a way to overcome depression and as a cure for venereal disease.5 Most political leaders kept children to rape, like Nero, who roamed about daily, raping boys who he found in the streets and in brothels.6
Priests also commonly used confessions to solicit sex with boys, but early Christian penitentials assessed penances only for the boys, since they were blamed for their own rape. Peter Damian said in the eleventh century that sex with boys in monasteries "rages like a bloodthirsty beast in the midst of the sheepfold of Christ with bold freedom" and suggested both the man and boy be punished as accomplices for a "sin against nature."8
Further, A common practice in the Church that dates back to the 800s and was probably known but disapproved of by St. Peter Damian, is that of removing clerics found guilty of criminal acts, including sodomy, on the basis of whether or not their offenses were publicly known, or carried out and confessed in secret.
In cases that had become "notorious," the offending cleric was defrocked and/or handed over to the secular authorities for punishment. If his crime was known only to a few persons such as his confessor or religious superior, the offending cleric was privately reprimanded, served a penance, and then was permitted to continue at his post, or transferred to a similar post in a different diocese. 9 This practice has been somewhat modified today by using so-called "treatment centers" or homosexual/pederast-friendly dioceses to squirrel away offending clergy until the heat is off. However, as Bernard Cardinal Law and many of his fellow bishops have discovered to their everlasting regret, today's instant mass communication, electronic tracking systems and access to public and private records of all kinds, is making it much more difficult to hide offending clergy or conceal criminal sexual abuse committed either by hierarchy or by priests and religious under their jurisdiction.
So, in the light of the knowledge of history, it seems obvious that it is neither a 'new morality', nor a 'concession to Arab Muslims', but rather little more than reaching for any excuse possible to keep the "old ways" in the NWO. OSIT
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1
Margaret Mahler, et al, The Psychological Birth of the Human Infant. New York: Basic Books, 1975; also see Eli Sagan, At the Dawn of Tyranny: The Origins of Individualism, Political Oppression, and the State. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1985, p. 358
2
Hans-Georg Behr, Almost a Childhood: Growing Up Among the Nazis. London: Granta Books, 2005, pp. 262-3.
3
Lloyd deMause, The Emotional Life of Nations, p. 199.
4
Aurel Ende, "Battering and Neglect," p. 252
5
Edward Brongersma, Loving Boys, p. 79-82; Craig A. Williams, Roman Homosexuality: Ideologies of Masculinity in Classical Antiquity. New York: Oxford, University Press, 1999; Susan Brownmiller, Against Our Will: Men, Women and Rape. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1975, p. 19.
6
Lloyd deMause, “The History of Child Abuse.” The Journal of Psychohistory 25(1998): 224.
7
Sander J. Breiner, Slaughter of the Innocents, p. 122.
8
Peter Damian, Book of Gomorrah. Waterloo: Wilfred Laurier University Press, 1982, pp. 27, 42.
9
_http://www.ourladyswarriors.org/articles/damian2.htm
Pierre J. Payer, Book of Gomorrah - An Eleventh-Century Treatise Against Clerical Homosexual Practices, Wilfrid Laurier, University Press, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, 1982, p. 17
