Poor digestion when I read or study something

[Galaxia2002]

I have the following problem but the doctors give me no definitive solution but some recommendations.

I have the following problem but the doctors give me no definitive solution but some recommendations. After eating either a main meal or a snack sometimes I have to wait two hours of digestion in order to do intellectual activity, if I read something immediately begins a headache and if I continue a little bit more the digestion stops and I feel bad with nausea. Once I get into that state sometimes I can fix it taking magnesia milk and a hot tea and thus I restart my digestion in a relaxed state. If I can't fixed I need to vomit.

I have suffered from this all my life and the cause is known: when one do an activity like reading or studying the brain needs a lot more blood, which at the time of digestion is being used by the stomach, then the last one decreases the blood flux and slow or stop digestion. Sometimes I think that it is a psychological problem because the immediate symptoms that I feel, just five minutes of reading to get a mild headache. Sometimes I wait the "two regulars hours " and start reading normally but the headache occurs when I got up the next day.
there would be no problem if my job were not intellectual but I have to read a lot and it would be great to take advantage of those almost five hours that I lost per day either reading the forum and other books. The truth is that I don't think there is a solution but I put it here anyway because you never know if someone has the solution.

Thanks

 

[Ellipse]

Look like you have, at least, a cervical problem. Reading involve eyes witch in turn involve muscles in the nape. If some cervicals are misplaced nerves can be compressed during neck muscles tension, so nerve influx can be deviated or weaken.

The problem can be and/or with dorsal vertebras too. Ask advice to an osteopath, a graduate one. Preferably an osteopath to a chiropractor.


Second advice, find a good acupuncturist. You certainly have a weak liver or some intestinal disturbance related to the first problem. He will say you what exactly is the situation.

fwiw

 

[Gaby]

Have you tried taking digestive enzymes, DGL, and oxbile? Also, having smaller meals more frequently helps and avoid drinking while eating. Chewing very well. Do you have this problem with all foods? Even during the elimination diet?

Just some thoughts.

 

[Galaxia2002]

thanks for the imput

Have you tried taking digestive enzymes, DGL, and oxbile? Also, having smaller meals more frequently helps and avoid drinking while eating. Chewing very well. Do you have this problem with all foods? Even during the elimination diet?

Just some thoughts.

Hi psyche. I have tried enzymes but it doesn't work for this problem. I have this problem with all kind of food. If I have smaller foods is worst because I'm doing digestion all the time, I have tried this before. It only depends on if I put to work my brain or not after eat. The doctor called it nervous stomach. I have noted also that if I am focused I don't breathe easily. I have to remember myself to breathe in the context I'm talking. My mom also suffered the same condition when she worked.

I remember that the only thing that worked was to take a pill of "vuscobras" before to eat , which contains:

vuscobras: hioscine n-butil bromide 10 mg and oxacepam 10 mg.

This last ingredient is a mild ansiolitic, that make me think that is a nervous problem as ellipse suggested. It seems that oxacepam has something to do with GABA receptors but I don't understand well. I have not taken it anymore since some years ago but It could give a clue of what is really happen.

Pharmacology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxazepam

Oxazepam is an intermediate acting benzodiazepine. Oxazepam acts on benzodiazepine receptors resulting in increased effect of GABA to the GABAA receptor which results in inhibitory effects on the central nervous system.
The half-life of oxazepam is 4–15 hours. Oxazepam has been shown to suppress cortisol levels.

Look like you have, at least, a cervical problem. Reading involve eyes witch in turn involve muscles in the nape. If some cervicals are misplaced nerves can be compressed during neck muscles tension, so nerve influx can be deviated or weaken.

The problem can be and/or with dorsal vertebras too. Ask advice to an osteopath, a graduate one. Preferably an osteopath to a chiropractor.


Second advice, find a good acupuncturist. You certainly have a weak liver or some intestinal disturbance related to the first problem. He will say you what exactly is the situation.

fwiw

thank you for the info! I just remember that continuously I click my nape's vertebrae to liberate pressure.

 

[unfold]

I have noted also that if I am focused I don't breathe easily. I have to remember myself to breathe in the context I'm talking. My mom also suffered the same condition when she worked.

I have also been experiencing this condition for as long as I can remember. I find it difficult to breath normally, steadily, while doing any intellectual activity like counting or math. I hold my breath while focusing. I have to catch myself and remind myself to breath. For me, I don't think this is related to eating as it happens all the time, before, during or after meals.

I do not have the other digestion/focusing conditions you are describing though, fwiw.

 

[durabone]

Hey Galaxia2002;

Thanks for the post. I have never heard of such, and I am no medical professional. But I am curious about this effect you experience. Some research I studied recently suggests that during the learning process, new neurons are actually formed, even in an 85 year old. This published result, though peer-reviewed and journaled is not consistent with current thinking, and the researchers found that studying and learning AND physical exercise both produce the effect. This is consistent with your statement:

the cause is known: when one do an activity like reading or studying the brain needs a lot more blood, which at the time of digestion is being used by the stomach, then the last one decreases the blood flux and slow or stop digestion.

This was also taught me, like when my parents made me wait fifteen minutes after a snack before jumping in the swimming pool again. So I wonder if it is appropriate to ask: Do you get the same effects from mild-to-strenuous physical after eating?

cheers

 

[Gaby]

So this happens even with the elimination diet. Have you tried an IBS diet? It is explained briefly in the ultrasimple diet thread: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg178241#msg178241 (read pages 24 and 25). IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) is also called nervous stomach. I think it will help you. The needs are specific, so you will see that it may vary from what we usually recommend.

 

[Galaxia2002]

This was also taught me, like when my parents made me wait fifteen minutes after a snack before jumping in the swimming pool again. So I wonder if it is appropriate to ask: Do you get the same effects from mild-to-strenuous physical after eating?

cheers

Hi Potamus, yes, If I do moderate exercise, my digestion could stop. Sometimes it has happened to me, so I take a rest at least one hour to do some exercise. If I have lunch and go out in a hurry it could stopped. If I get anguish for any reason it could also stop. So I think there is a component of psychic tension, because as I said before my breath turns difficult.

You make me remind of a case I know of a person that after eat a heavy dinner took a cold shower and died. The doctors said was a stomach infarction or something like that, and it happened because of the strong termic shock. I think your parents are referring to that.

So this happens even with the elimination diet. Have you tried an IBS diet? It is explained briefly in the ultrasimple diet thread: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg178241#msg178241 (read pages 24 and 25). IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) is also called nervous stomach. I think it will help you. The needs are specific, so you will see that it may vary from what we usually recommend.

Thanks psyche I will give it a look. :)

 

[Galaxia2002]

I have also been experiencing this condition for as long as I can remember. I find it difficult to breath normally, steadily, while doing any intellectual activity like counting or math. I hold my breath while focusing. I have to catch myself and remind myself to breath. For me, I don't think this is related to eating as it happens all the time, before, during or after meals.

I do not have the other digestion/focusing conditions you are describing though, fwiw.

Me too. I noted that my attention can't work properly if I remember to myself to breath while I do something else. I either breath or to think..

 

[andi]

Look like you have, at least, a cervical problem. Reading involve eyes witch in turn involve muscles in the nape. If some cervicals are misplaced nerves can be compressed during neck muscles tension, so nerve influx can be deviated or weaken.

The problem can be and/or with dorsal vertebras too. Ask advice to an osteopath, a graduate one. Preferably an osteopath to a chiropractor.


Second advice, find a good acupuncturist. You certainly have a weak liver or some intestinal disturbance related to the first problem. He will say you what exactly is the situation.

fwiw

I second what Ellipse advised. A good acupuncturist can go right to the root of the problem and in many cases heal it for good. Your problem is well known in the alternative medicine, and if you are willing to get over it, there are good chances that you will find someone in your local area. Ask friends and everybody you know if they know anybody that can help; ask everybody you meet as well; have no rest until you have found a remedy.

You could try Green Clay (sun dried), could be a good start - experiment!

Healing clays have traditionally been used for internal detoxification ( digestive system and liver ), trauma injuries, skin conditions, organ and elimination system stimulation, and localized immune system stimulation and support

Hope you will seek a solution and not let it continue to be a obstacle in your life.

 

[thorbiorn]

Hi Galaxia
Regarding "regular two hours" does it make a difference if you rest lying down a few minutes after eating? There are different ways of doing this, but one can try the back where one can feel what is going on in the body or on the left side so the bile flows down easily. Instead of lying down one adviced sitting in the diamond pose/ position of the hare / vajra asana (if one can) as this center the energy in the stomach area and relaxes the nerves too.

My own experience is that I can get lower back pain or discomfort but discovered that lying down a few minutes after the first meal of the day could solve it along with going early to bed. I have tried the diamond pose also but lying down is better for me. Like you I also tend to have worse digestion when reading much. Doing a set of yoga poses in the afternoon before dinner helps along with the early bed. I don't know if any of this is useful but caught in the dilemma between writing or not writing it became writing fwiw.

 

[Galaxia2002]

Hi Galaxia
Regarding "regular two hours" does it make a difference if you rest lying down a few minutes after eating? There are different ways of doing this, but one can try the back where one can feel what is going on in the body or on the left side so the bile flows down easily. Instead of lying down one adviced sitting in the diamond pose/ position of the hare / vajra asana (if one can) as this center the energy in the stomach area and relaxes the nerves too.

My own experience is that I can get lower back pain or discomfort but discovered that lying down a few minutes after the first meal of the day could solve it along with going early to bed. I have tried the diamond pose also but lying down is better for me. Like you I also tend to have worse digestion when reading much. Doing a set of yoga poses in the afternoon before dinner helps along with the early bed. I don't know if any of this is useful but caught in the dilemma between writing or not writing it became writing fwiw.

Hi thorbiorn I try to not lying down after eat because the acid that start to produce the stomach burns my throat, maybe just a few minutes as you said will be fine. I will try the diamond pose! thank you!

 

[Ellipse]

the acid that start to produce the stomach burns my throat

Really, I think you have a problem with your liver. Seem to having difficulty to deal with the bile.