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Why would you percieve a very detailed and well-researched article to be the 'vicious' product of a 'pathological mindset'. It seems that, in fact, you are saying much more about yourself here than you are about the article or its author. You are also, very clearly, attacking the author while simultaneously condeming him for what you percieve to be his attack on your guru. You seem to have a strong emotional attachment to this spiritual predator which has resulted in a tightly closed mind on the subject; something that often occurs in such situations.gnosticpathfinder said:I've learned more from Alan Watts' reflections ... so would be glad to share with anyone 'privately' who is not of such a 'vicious' mindset to automatically judge and attack ANYONE ... See's article seems to reflect more of the pathological mindset than he 'projects' onto a person he may never have met or related to
In addition to what Anart pointed out to you, I find it interesting that first you link to what you call "SOTT related sites" and when someone points out a problem you then say you're open to private conversation. We've seen this happen here in variations several times in the past... This is a public forum where obviously we discuss topics openly. Did you come here to openly discuss, or to troll for followers, or is it that it might be really uncomfortable for you to face the possibility of having to slaughter a sacred cow (e.g. reach the objective Truth about a matter)?gnosticpathfinder said:I've learned more from Alan Watts' reflections ... so would be glad to share with anyone 'privately' who is not of such a 'vicious' mindset to automatically judge and attack ANYONE ... See's article seems to reflect more of the pathological mindset than he 'projects' onto a person he may never have met or related to ... open to a dialogue through email ...
When it comes to this rawat dude its not the matter of judgement but matter of comon sense :winkgnosticpathfinder said:... so would be glad to share with anyone 'privately' who is not of such a 'vicious' mindset to automatically judge and attack ANYONE ...
If there is something factually wrong with Henry See's article, then please post it here so we may all learn from it (= dialogue through the forum). The idea is that we apply many minds to a post so we can strip away subjectivity and get to the facts.gnosticpathfinder said:See's article seems to reflect more of the pathological mindset than he 'projects' onto a person he may never have met or related to ... open to a dialogue through email ...
I admit it; I never met the man. Saw him on a couple of videos from recent years, and that was enough, along with the research I did for the article. I have met some of his followers, though. Of course, a large number of his students haven't met Prem Rawat either, a point raised in my article. His "one size fits all" approach leaves much to be desired in my opinion. My experience of this Work also leaves no doubt in my mind that any teacher, any real teacher that is, must know his students because everyone's situation is unique.gnosticpathfinder said:See's article seems to reflect more of the pathological mindset than he 'projects' onto a person he may never have met or related to
If you would had read enough of SOTT and this forum before forming concrete opinion then you'd have either not wrote that, or it's possible that you're currently comfortable with subjectivity, because if there is anything SOTT and this forum tries to do it is to seek the objective Truth. If you can't see this then as I said, you either haven't read enough or you're mentally blind (sacred cows tend to create that condition in a person).gnosticpathfinder said:I will be glad to 'peel back' some subjectivity with SOTT if your group will do the same ...
Unless one is capable of seeking - and finding - objectivity, Truth, then one is essentially a useful idiot. That condition amounts to being Cointelpro. No offense intended.I am NOT Cointelpro ...
Useful idiots teach subjectivity, possibly inadvertantly. No offense intended there either. Finding people who teach critical thinking is difficult these days. You might think about that, being a teacher and all.I have been a teacher for more than 15 years in Asia ...
That's the spirit. :) (giving you the benefit of the doubt here...)I am open to trying again given the chance ... will ponder your article in more depth and try to give you my perceptions in an objective a fashion as I can muster ... so be it.
Mey I ask what experience is the one you shared?gnosticpathfinder said:I was just trying to share some experience ...
You asked for 'private' comunication. What is it you cannot say on the open? THAT'S a troll.gnosticpathfinder said:I don't think I was 'trolling'
That's what Alan Watt sais. Also Jones and Icke. They all think they are inocent souls. Cointelpro finds expression presisely through those 'teachers' who reclute people who is sincerely searching for a light, to 'teach' them how to see the world, as you have been doing it for the last 15 years across many countries. MOST PARTICULARY those who give to their selfs any form of 'spiritual authority': You need 'private' communication to convince of the hierarchy, so it is all about power and nothing more.gnosticpathfinder said:I am NOT Cointelpro ... I know about teaching ... I have been a teacher for more than 15 years in Asia ...
That implies that you're trying to put the onus on SOTT to choose for you whether you stop being subjective or not. It sounds like the ploy used in the courts system where we're made to believe that the truth is always somewhere in the middle.gnosticpathfinder said:I will be glad to 'peel back' some subjectivity with SOTT if your group will do the same ...
Looking forward to it GPF.gnosticpathfinder said:... will ponder your article in more depth and try to give you my perceptions in an objective a fashion as I can muster ... so be it.
From one of the site links you posted:gnosticpathfinder said:I don't consider myself a Prem Rawat groupie ... I was just trying to share some experience ... [...]... I have been a teacher for more than 15 years in Asia ... and have traveled in many countries there ... never as a 'follower' of Prem Rawat ... just someone doing his 'own thing' ... I haven't been to a 'program' of Prem Rawat's in more than 20 years ... so if that means I'm still a groupie in your book ... somehow we have miscommunicated ... I am open to trying again given the chance ... will ponder your article in more depth and try to give you my perceptions in an objective a fashion as I can muster ... so be it.
So obviously Prem Rawat is someone important in your life. From what you write, he permitted you to follow your own path, and you are grateful to him for that. That's OK in my book.gnosticpathfinder said:This mission is dedicated to my personal teacher, Prem Rawat, whom I first met in 1981. Since then, my life changed and my true travels around the world began. Without his internal guidance, I would never have gotten to where I am today. While others have turned away from his lessons, not always comfortable, I prefer to face reality as it is with someone not afraid to hold the mirror up to me from time to time.