Prosper! By Chris Martenson and Adam Taggart

emitflesti

The Force is Strong With This One
Hello Everybody!

I was wondering how many people here in the Forum are familiar with the Crash Course at the Peak Prosperity Website.

In case anybody hasn't seen it before, here's the link below:
http://www.peakprosperity.com/crashcourse

Anyways, I just purchased their book, Prosper!, about a couple of weeks ago, and so far I've been pretty impressed with it.
If you're like me, and are still sitting on the sidelines and want to do something but don't know what/how to do it, I highly recommend this book.

I'm only 1/2 way done reading it, but so far I'm very inspired with all the helpful insights they have on making your own life prosperous and resilient.
In a Nutshell, they examine the THREE E's: The Economy, Energy, and the Environment.

I also like the fact that that they describe, The 8 Principal Forms of Resilience:
Financial
Living
Material
Knowledge
Emotional
Social
Cultural
Time

I would love to have people share their opinions on this topic if anybody is interested :)

Here's a link below as well that describes their synopsis:
http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/95104/announcing-our-new-book-prosper

[Side Note: It takes a lot for me to really recommend a book for other people to read. I'm so impressed with this book that I'm thinking about buying several copies and giving them as gifts to my friends and family. And trust me, I'm pretty stingy with buying gifts for people, but this book has inspired me to know that there is hope]
 
emitflesti said:
Hello Everybody!

I was wondering how many people here in the Forum are familiar with the Crash Course at the Peak Prosperity Website.

This is the first I'm hearing about it so I guess the answer is no. Same for the book Prosper!

Your enthusiasm peaked my curiosity though, so I did a bit of research on the second book. For anyone who is curious, here's a link to a 55 minute podcast interview with both authors talking about the concepts in the book:

_http://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-272-a-conversation-with-chris-martenson-and-adam-taggart/

Adam says "In our opinion, just about all of the book's advice is relevant to everyone, regardless of country of residence" and from what I've read and heard so far, I agree. If you want to discuss more, I'll share some notes I took on the podcast, but it'll have to wait till tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing!
 
This post is just some notes I took while listening to the podcast linked in a previous post. Some of the ideas or information on this post may just be fragments or phrases and they're not in any particular order. It doesn't pretend to be a structurally coherent story or narrative. If anything needs clarification, please ask.

The authors outlined a framework for understanding 'capital' in an expanded form. They talk about 8 forms of capital where the forms themselves can also be thought of as domains or areas of life as we live it in the world today.

Along with the talk about some of the 8 forms, they mention a couple of examples of exchanging capital between forms in order to build up areas where we might be weak. Example: having a bunch of money but few friends. What condition might one find themselves in if their money disappeared and they have few friends?

Here are the 8 forms of capital. Some forms have no explanation because the authors didn't talk about those during the podcast:


1) Emotional (most important one?) The authors have a particular way they like to intro this area: They say that, according to research, the first 8 years after the USSR collapsed, studies were done on causes of death.
Results: 54% of deaths were alcohol related. That's 50% more than countries like the U.S. with 4%. Suggested reason why: people lacked emotional capital. The dissolution of USSR dissolving into lots of satellite states caused huge loss of jobs. Loss of their threat narrative, loss of jobs - many fell into numbing themselves from loss of self-worth, feeling hollowed out emotionally, living a purposeless life.

The authors also mention the other side of this circumstance: In a time of such a crisis on so broad a level, we will probably see the side of life as just described, but there will be extraordinary opportunities opening up at the same time as a collapse happens and people can start preparing now.

2) Social (ex: exchange some service like babysitter for kids to get an axe splitter to use for an afternoon) This one is along the lines of trading and bartering between people in their local communities as a way of getting necessary things done.

3) Financial (money and other tradeables in the financial system) Pretty self-explanatory, I think

4) Living capital (the living systems upon which you depend...how strong, resilient are they, how much can you count on them to be there for you?)(the most important living system is your own body-increase your health, increase your capacity to do things... by hand. Educate yourself on good health and implement healthy practices-exercise, nutrition, stress management, good sleep) Consider Nature...healthy soil=healthy plants...it's about survival...and beauty...and all being functional.

Soulless, tacky, and ugly environment affects us psychologically...communicates messages like: it's ok to be lawless...Two major Narrative options people can and do have:

A)-humans are destructive, ex:rainforests, strip mining, etc or,

B)-Permaculture lesson: humans can be "accelerants of abundance", ex: we can build up topsoil faster than nature. We can use our cleverness to benefit ourselves, others and all forms of life.


5) Material (physical things we acquire)...can acquire material capital through social capital


6) Cultural (this is really more about one's local culture or the micro-culture) Example: move - if you don't like the culture of Oakland, for example, you might as well move)

7) Time - investing your time and energy into something.


The items or forms that don't require money may require other forms of capital, like time.

The authors say this is all about personal dedication and understanding that this (their framework) is not offered for just building wealth or surviving a future catastrophe; it is a good and important thing to do - not just because you're worried about the future...it'll have dividends it will pay in the future...but that's not why we would do it...just that it's a good way to live our lives today.

You'll need sets of skills and skills will be associated with developing each of these areas.

8) Knowledge (the marriage of what you know and what you know how to do)

When moving into an uncertain future, a premium will be placed on doers...skills...people who have knowledge, people who know how to do things, know how to get things done. People should play to their strengths, focus on their passions, natural aptitudes.

These are considered the elements of a resilient life or a fulfilled, happy life

Invest your time and energy in deepening the capital you have in each of these areas of your life and ask yourself "how do I want to fund that? Do I want to fund that with financial capital, with my time, emotional or social support I can give somebody..."

Benefit: tends to defuse the argument, "well, I don't really have the money...so I can't do any of this..."
We begin to realize we are empowered to strengthen each of these areas of our lives in many different ways.

There are unhappy people who may be wealthy in one or a few areas but be in poverty in other areas. Goal: to have sufficient capital in all the areas so that at the end of the day we can be happier in our lives. Not just because we're worried about the future...it'll have dividends it will pay in the future...but that's not why we would do it...just that it's a good way to live our lives today.


Steps

Taking stock of each area; ex:Financial - take stock of your finances-know your balance sheet-spread some financial capital over the other forms of capital where it makes sense (if you have some finances you can do that with); Having a plan; Use the map to map yourself into those 8 forms of capital.

A lot of people know what's coming - they are fearful and maybe rightfully so, but the problem is that their actions aren't aligned with that. Like living on top of the San Andreas fault and having no plans and having no (emergency plans) - no preparation at all for an earthquake, no rallying point for family, no communication plan for downed cell towers...in fact, they're living like they try not to think about where they're living and they have fear about this whether or not they are consciously aware of it.

Fearful:means you're probably not taking any action. When people get moving, start taking things under control, amazing things happen for people when that have to rely on themselves (skills, ability, etc).

We can't know the exact future, but we can know where we are exposed...where we have insurance (deep pantry) for this or that baked into our lives.

The authors tell some of their personal stories. They are both college grads with families and were working in the corporate world. Several years ago they decided to retire from corporate life, thinking that the good life was not going to last. They mapped out these various domains of life, figured out ways to build "wealth" into each one and converted all this thought into a framework for communicating it with others.

The authors state that becoming independent to the point of being able to rely on your own knowledge and skills takes time. One needs to research, gather information, make multiple trips to the store to get supplies or whatever. Time is also needed to experiment - to use trial and error while growing things - allowing for mistakes because you will make many of them. Time to do all this now while you can.

For example, one of the authors said that while he was working with his own gardening efforts, he made a lot of mistakes. People need to allow time for mistakes because if a whole growing season doesn't work out for you, you'll have to go to the store, get more seeds and other things to start over with. You won't be able to do that if you wait till a catastrophe has already arrived and you have to grow food and depend on those plants.

The authors provide a link to a website described as an ongoing blog with more info and tips on the framework and about the 8 forms of capital. The info provided on the blog for the 8 areas assumes the reader has read the corresponding chapter in the book. The blog doesn't try to duplicate the book. It seems mainly intended to serve for those who've made their personal plan and want to build in more granularity, read case studies, etc.

_http://www.peakprosperity.com/whatshouldido/
 
Buddy said:
Your enthusiasm peaked my curiosity though, so I did a bit of research on the second book.

If you want to discuss more, I'll share some notes I took on the podcast, but it'll have to wait till tomorrow.

Thanks for sharing!

Hi Buddy!
Thanks for giving that great synopsis!!

Sounds like you might be interested in getting the book?
I just bought 3 copies on Amazon for my friends and family, and then I started thinking about paying it forward here on this website.

So here's what I'm thinking:
I've decided that I should buy an additional 3 copies of this book for people on this Forum as well.

Buddy, If you would like for me to purchase a copy of this book as a gift. Please let me know.
And in case anybody else is interested and can't afford to purchase this book, I will gladly buy this book for as a gift.

I haven't read a book like this in a long time that has so much practical information!! :)
 
Thank you, but I think I'll go ahead and get my own copy from Amazon via Amazon Smile so it can benefit the forum financially as well. My intention is to fill in the gaps of my knowledge with the info the authors provide and to share the usables with others where and when I can. I figure the more people who take the time to gather knowledge and build their skill sets, the easier life might be during hard times.
 
Buddy said:
Thank you, but I think I'll go ahead and get my own copy from Amazon via Amazon Smile so it can benefit the forum financially as well. My intention is to fill in the gaps of my knowledge with the info the authors provide and to share the usables with others where and when I can. I figure the more people who take the time to gather knowledge and build their skill sets, the easier life might be during hard times.

I you don't mind, keep me updated when you get the book from Amazon.
I'm curious/excited about what's your impression of the book.
It's sort of like family/friends/coworkers recommend their favorite movies/books/songs that they love but you may not find appealing.
Hopefully this book is analogous to a favorite song that resonates with you
 
You sound like you're highly emotionally invested in this and could be one of the authors. :) While I understand why a person might be so excited, it would probably be only fair to warn you that I consider myself, my family, and environmental cohorts prepared for the most part. Many others on here may be as well, since this has been an ongoing concern for us since way back. Anyway, I'm buying the book post research, so that should say something, in itself. Apologies if this sounds like I'm trying to be a wet blanket, but I'm mainly just looking for useful, non emotional data that's new and easily understandable to others as well.

Thanks for the opening post, and if I have any extraordinary reaction or whatever, I'll be sure to inform you. :P
 
Buddy said:
You sound like you're highly emotionally invested in this...

Apologies if this sounds like I'm trying to be a wet blanket, but I'm mainly just looking for useful, non emotional data that's new and easily understandable to others as well.

Thanks for the opening post, and if I have any extraordinary reaction or whatever, I'll be sure to inform you. :P

Thanks Buddy!
That's what I'm exactly looking for!

I can definitely say that I'm growing an emotional and confirmational bias to the information is this book as I'm reading it.
I've been known in the past to have an "Emotional Capacitance" anytime I discover something new and exciting.
Then eventually I loose all interest in the topic as I loose my charge and come back down to earth.

I definitely need people like you and other people in the forum to be a Devil's Advocate to get proper feedback so I came be "grounded".
 
Hi! All this is very interesting. Thanks Buddy for taking the time to write all that. I'm wondering myself what to do at this time as I'm in a place of change in many areas of my life and feel a need for more creativity. Could use more information on how to "round things out" in different areas of my life. Perhaps develop new skills of some sort. I'll be looking into this further.

thanks emitflesti :)
 
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