Psychopathy on the internet

Lumasphere

The Force is Strong With This One
I see what I beleive to be psychopathic action and reactions on internet websites, in forums and blogs as well as sites where the admins allow comments from readers. These exchanges seem to be drawn out at times and almost argumentive in nature. One side makes statements and the other makes theres. Some are good points and some just show craziness. I would like to present a dialog of one such exchange where a post is started with a video and ends with a statement.

It is asked the readers interested in the study of psychopathy comment on the anonymous dialog.

A. An oklahoma deputy sheriff drives up to a rural residence to ask directions and instead shoots the family pet in the head. Than the cop lies about it to HQ. Mean while owner comes home to a yard full of cops and they make like the dog attacked.

The dog owner says no way and than drops a bombshell on the cops. She has the episode video'd and the cops change there story. Offer her money and to keep the incident quiet.

Cops are psychopaths with a license to kill.

Link text - Cops do Lie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMJtmceGDCY

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B. "Cops are psychopaths with a license to kill."

Did you mean 'these' cops or in general?
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A. In general. Its everywhere and cannot be denied. A cop who shoots without regard, or who tasers without reason, or tickets for there cause, is not only psycohpathetic, but narcisisstic. Cops can kill you and get away with it. they are protected by psychopaths in the ranks and chain of command. A good clean cop does not last in the job. A cop does not climb the command structure being a nice guy. Psychopaths get there way, feed bs to those who fail to see there game and pretty much clique together for that authoritarian control while thinking whatever they do is ok. Like shooting a dog in the head rather than get back in the car and driving off to ask directions somewhere else. We are seeing more and more of this sensless psychopathetic tendencies from cops as they get away with it.
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C. Someone's crazy...and its not the cops.

This video is sick, though.
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A. C Quote: Someone's crazy...and its not the cops

Are you referring to yourself?

Note: C never replied to the question.
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B. With all due respect, your blanket statement about cops being .... pyschopaths with a license to kill is ridiculous.

Of course there are a number of 'bad' cops, but it seems you've watched a few too many movies playing into this type of thinking.

Sorry if I come across strong but seriously, your statement is way out of line and absolutely insulting to the 90 % (at least) of the police officers who are good and decent people and who put their life on the line daily.

I am personally insulted by this ridiculous claim
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A. B Quote: I am personally insulted by this ridiculous claim

I'm very happy for you that I insulted your ridiculous side of your brain. Maybe I woke you up from a deep slumber to a real reality going on right now and your not rady to accept it. You are owned by those who bs'd you to beleive this 90% thing you tell us of. Perhaps you could get out more often and look around at whats happening to people by the psychopathetic cerebral control of the hand(s) of cops.

Thats ok though, go back to sleep and dream some more that nothings wrong and continue to tell yourself this is ridiculous, or it's not your problem as long as this stuff doesn't happen to you but happens to others.

Have a nice day.
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B. Are you kidding me????

I can bet my life on the fact that what you say is at the very least ignorant.

The bad cops are in the very minority of the force ....

I had thought better of you until I read this thread. I am deeply disappointed that someone like you could be naive enough to believe these ridiculous claims, and then ignorant enough to actually post them
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A. That is exactly how a narrow minded thought process would respond. Perhaps some day you will see what it is I am saying. Maybe it will be to late to think of this day but needless to say you will be subjected to a psychopathic cop encounter.

B Quote: I can bet my life on the fact that what you say is at the very least ignorant

Carefull with that, you may lose what you bet, and never see it coming. As for your statement pointing ignorant out, that maybe your down fall, not mine.

B Quote: I had thought better of you

Impossible. If you had, you'd be more coherent without dropping the distasteful remarks masking your true intent
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B. My true intent???

YOU are blinded by a situation that has occurred very close to you in one way or another, that much is apparent and obvious. I'm not going to argue with you because your comments ARE ignorant in the true sense of the word.

YOUR statement was that ALL police officers are psychotic killers basically. I KNOW THAT TO BE FALSE and have very real reasons for being able to say that - perhaps if you thought about it you may be able to figure it out. I can very easily bet my life that your blanket claim is bogus and ridiculous because I know it to be true.

If you were an intelligent unbiased person you may have said there is a chance that at one point in my life I may encounter such a police officer as you describe, and I would agree that the chance existed.

My experience has shown me that people who put themselves in the position where a police officer can take advantage of the situation, are more than likely in a place or situation they shouldn't have been had they been making wise choices. HOWEVER, that does not mean that there aren't SOME cops who go about with ill intent.

What is so funny is that YOU claim I DROPPED the distasteful remarks first, when in fact you are the one slandering the majority of the good police officers in the world with the ridiculous generalizing statement you made - and then continue to claim that ALL cops are BAD BAD people, etc.

I suggest we take a poll and see how many agree with you that ALL police officers are psychotic killers looking for a chance to make use of their power.
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A. If you were truely insulted, why are you still poking around on your keyboard. Instead you on the defensive rather than query my opinion. That makes you the ignorant player in your game of tit for tat. Obviously your life is of a sheltered impediment. Did you follow my suggestion to utube the search for bad cops. Probably not since you are on the defensive now.

B Quote: YOUR statement was that ALL police officers are psychotic killers

In your warped sense of what I wrote, is not what I wrote. That tactic shows the reader your delusional frame of mind. To clear up your smoke and mirror antics, this is what I wrote "Cops are psychopaths with a license to kill". Looks a lot different to what your mind conjured through your keyboard. Seriously though, you should be more carefull how you quote me. You'll make yourself look like your trying to come off, well, a little off.

B Quote: What is so funny is that YOU claim I DROPPED the distasteful remarks first, when in fact you are the one slandering

Well lets see....
Since the opening thread was not about you and I never remarked you were ignorant till you pointed out that I some how fell into your category post line number 8, ya, your following remarks pointed to me were were becoming alarmingly distasteful since you were addressing them with increased intent directly to me . Since my, as you claim, slandering was not pointed at you, you should not be concerned, but you tell us you became so insulted whereby your thoughts must of became unhinged, that now you can't leave it alone.

B Quote: that ALL police officers are psychotic killers

Trying to change my words again. Shame on you for playing with the readers intelligence that way. I suggest you keep it straight up or forget about it.
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B. "Cops are psychopaths with a license to kill."

Those were YOUR words exactly!!!! Then I asked VERY politely and nicely with "Did you mean 'these' cops or in general?"

YOU said - "In general."

Now who's twisting words around. I just provided word for word the beginning of our conversation here.

YOUR blanket claim that "Cops are psychopaths with a license to kill" and then your admission that you meant that in a general sense which implies the majority of the force is as you claim is the issue I took with you, and the reason I felt insulted.

You had every opportunity to correct your implication, by stating the obvious ... that there are bad cops out there, but in no way are they in the majority.

Why would I search youtube for bad cop videos? I could search for monkeys playing pranks and find all kinds of them, would I then presume that the majority of monkeys are prankers? There are a million examples why searching a BIASED viewpoint on youtube would be a bad idea if I wanted an OBJECTIVE point of view.
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A. Did you know your exhibiting psychopathic traits. So are you gonna tell us whether your a cop or a wannabe??. Your twisting and squirming is getting out of hand. What about all that chop you had about good cops. You were claiming you have hundreds of examples to show us. What happened, it doesn't matter now or is it none existant and your waving your hands in another direction to cover yourself.
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B. Interesting how you FAILED to even discuss the content of my post. Care to do that and address the EXACT quotes I referenced?

If I took a poll here on this site would you acknowledge the results? I will. I am going to post a poll later and get to the bottom of this.

Please do address the quotes I provided instead of dancing around avoiding it.
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A. What quotes?, I did, you refused to look, later claiming bias justifying your reason not to look. You made some self induced noise to cover your narrow comprehension of my opinion and decided, what appeared to me, to let denial take over, thus you began to loose control. Your hidding from something since you are insulted by my thread, tossing out words like insulted, slander, slandering, ridiculous, naive, ignorant, ignorance, psychotic killers, I had thought better of you, don't take it personal, and hinting, you being a cop. You were the one who was going to show us something, remember. As for a poll, I find them useless. Your more than welcome to give it a go in your own thread though, and as to what bottom your seeking to find, that I am curious to know. I will have to exclude my vote, since that would be bias. I will go over the thread, not for the results, but for the thinking behind the vote. Telling your cop friends to sign up to vote will get you exposed. I'll be watching.

By the way, slander is utterance. I never uttered (spoke) a statement of slander. I think what you really wanted to say but didn't think it hit home hard enough, was libel, thats the written word. Now you have to prove malicious intent was used to harm or defame the insulted, seeing we're in a debate forum labeled mature and responsible, I question your maturity to understand the context of my opinion on psychopaths.
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B. I'm going to refrain from even replying to the rest of the insults you laid out here because, quite honestly, it isn't worth my time.

Here are the quotes AGAIN ..... ( for about the third time )

YOU SAID - "Cops are psychopaths with a license to kill."

I REPLIED - "Did you mean 'these' cops or in general?"

YOU SAID - "In general."

There you have it.
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A. Heres a no brainer, Never talk down to some one you want information from. Since you showed me/everyone you were more interested in hammering my opinion, rather than form a sensible relationship for my outline of opinion, you chose to blow that opportunity away.

You've a lot to learn my friend. I do wish you well, and most of all, the safety of the contacts you make on the street.

Regards,
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B. I started asking in a VERY nice way, as the quotes above illustrate. you replied you believe in general cops are psychotic, etc....

Again, you can show me all kinds of youtube videos but it only proves the obvious .... that there are SOME bad cops out there doing BAD things. In NO way does it provide evidence for what you claim to be true.

If I were to claim that 'Name snip' were evil and mailicious, and then found a number of videos on youtube that supported that WITHOUT looking at the mountain of evidence on the other side of the fence - it would be an ignorant stance.

because I (and the majority of the other members of this board) see that your claims are ridiculous, we have no need for further information from you ... and secondly, I didn't talk down to you - I was upset because you made a blanket statement with NO basis in fact - libeling a profession that, in general, does a lot of good for the general population and puts their lives on the line daily.
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A. B Quote: you replied you believe in general cops are psychotic
Its over friend, you can stop twisting and turning my opinion. That is one of the traits.

B Quote: you can show me all kinds of youtube videos

No, I suggested you do the search with "bad cop" or any search term you wish. More twisting and a turning. What happened, you were going to show us in a rebuttal statement, evidence contrary to my opinion, ya know, good cop videos.

B Quote: If I were to claim that 'Name snip' were evil and mailicious

That would be libel. Since there is only one "Name snip" here, you are defaming the name and the link to the individual by using intent. There are no videos showing your fantasy. You really need to think before writing this stuff out.

B Quote: I (and the majority of the other members of this board)

Is that a call for help?

B Quote: I was upset

Thats a clear sign of lose of control. Happens to the best of us, so don't sweat it.
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B. You have serious issues ... which is also evident once one digs a bit into who you really are ...

thats enough of your trolling for one day .... thanks again

one day you will learn how to comprehend ... and answer questions.

you said - cops are psychopaths and then admitted you meant it in a general sense - your words are there to prove it ... you can squirm if you wish but they are there for the world to see them.
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A. B Quote: you said - cops are psychopaths and then admitted you meant it in a general sense - your words are there to prove it ... you can squirm if you wish but they are there for the world to see them

Where did I deny that. Intelligent readers can plainly see I wrote it.
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B. Quit playing games ... you accused me of twisting words - I provided on multiple occassions the exact quotes and you kept accusing me of twisting the words.
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A. You wrote - you said - cops are psychopaths and then admitted you meant it in a general sense - your words are there to prove it ... you can squirm if you wish but they are there for the world to see them

I replied - Where did I deny that. Intelligent readers can plainly see I wrote it.

Your reply - Quit playing games ... you accused me of twisting words - I provided on multiple occassions the exact quotes and you kept accusing me of twisting the words.

What games?. Your reply is totaly out of reality. This last reply clearly shows you are no longer in control of abstract thinking.
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B. Now knowing who you are and why you are doing what you're doing gives me all the reasons I need to withdraw from this little game you are playing.

I am now well aware of who you are, and I have no intention of talking about if here on this site - I think it's in your best interest to leave it at that as well.

People can clearly see what they want to see based on our debate, and I just hope they look at the whole thing objectively because that is the true way to see reality.

I have started a new thread, and would love to talk about the general theme there. That way your thread can be used to concentrate on what you intended it to be.

I realize you have the need for the last word and that's fine with me ... now knowing what I know, it is not my intention to expose people here, I have too much respect for "Name snip" and this board to stoop to that level.

I wish you the best, and hope reality will set in for you. I would suggest taking an objective approach, it took me a while to understand what that truly meant, and with any luck you'll find your way there one day too
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A. Did not respond.

End.

A - did, in another section of the thread, disclose what the thread was about and explaind there were levels of psychopaths. B - continued to take the thread as an attack on cops, even after A's explaination. B did start a forum poll on cops are psychopaths.
 
Hello Lumasphere,

I think that this conversation you posted is nothing but a debate where it is about the ego. As a reader once wrote:
"A good debater is capable of taking either side of an issue, hence winning a debate has nothing to do with right/wrong, correct/incorrect, helpful/not helpful; the only thing winning a debate is about is ego."

I think that A does not yet realize that well that many people don't want to hear what others have to say. They don't want to hear things that go against their assumptions, perhaps assumptions that they take as facts. They already have chosen in what world they want to live in. And I know that many times, when you have 'found' some very important information, you want to share this and when they don't want to hear it, you keep going on and on (and perhaps to a point that you even start lying to yourself). And at one point I think you'll learn that many people just don't wanna hear it and then you might realize that the 'best' thing we can do, is just let them be. They don't want to make the effort, it's that simple. But I think that these conversations might be good for practicing External Consideration, your way of approaching for example might 'develop' to the 'level' they are willing to 'accept'. Or so I think.

Lumasphere said:
B. With all due respect, your blanket statement about cops being .... pyschopaths with a license to kill is ridiculous.

Of course there are a number of 'bad' cops, but it seems you've watched a few too many movies playing into this type of thinking.
What I've noticed from some forum members on other forums, is that the reason they are debating is because they get a lot of feeding by it. Especially when they joke about it, it feeds them perfectly.

Lumasphere said:
A: I'm very happy for you that I insulted your ridiculous side of your brain. Maybe I woke you up from a deep slumber to a real reality going on right now and your not rady to accept it. You are owned by those who bs'd you to beleive this 90% thing you tell us of. Perhaps you could get out more often and look around at whats happening to people by the psychopathetic cerebral control of the hand(s) of cops.
Apparently A is getting quite emotional here. Why not say ''If that is your opinion then so be it.'' Or you could go on by trying to explain yourself backed up with data and if this data is considered as not important, then the best thing to do is just leave. Or so I think.

Lumasphere said:
A: Thats ok though, go back to sleep and dream some more that nothings wrong and continue to tell yourself this is ridiculous, or it's not your problem as long as this stuff doesn't happen to you but happens to others.

Have a nice day.
A lot of ego-ness and self-importance in the above sentence. If you feed yourself by ''behaving'' like this there is a high probability that the one you are talking too will also behave like this. Would that be beneficial for this conversation?

Lumasphere said:
B: I had thought better of you until I read this thread. I am deeply disappointed that someone like you could be naive enough to believe these ridiculous claims, and then ignorant enough to actually post them
Personal attacking...

Lumasphere said:
A. That is exactly how a narrow minded thought process would respond. Perhaps some day you will see what it is I am saying. Maybe it will be to late to think of this day but needless to say you will be subjected to a psychopathic cop encounter.
And as expected, a personal attack back at B.

I'm not going on anymore, because it's obvious that it is mainly about who has the biggest and strongest Ego rather than the information being 'discussed'. I'm not sure if A or B are being 'psychopathic' or are 'Organic Portals', or 'souled beings in struggle'.
However, I can say that both A and B might learn something from this if they choose to (based on, for example, Gurdjieff's teachings.)
 
Oxajil, Thank you for your input.

I have been interested in psychopathy since clicking on one of Laura's links from a blog I stumbled upon some time ago. I see exchanges like the one quoted in this thread on many forums I visit and try to understand it as a psychopathy exchanges or if the debates are ego exchanges. I am aware of ego fights, but wanted to look further into whether psychopathy was involved.

Regards,
 

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