Q about after death

MoonSun

Padawan Learner
Hello everyone, do you know anything useful about after the death? Is there any clue about it in C's channeling? I know that no need to fear death but to be honest anything unknown bring insecurity feeling, how can I know death? I've studied a little on death meditation in Buddhism, what they say is not the same with what people say after the near death experience, what is correct? Thanks in advance for any comment!
 
Good Question ..

thats why i asked if the C's could comment on this ..
( is it possible to reincarnate and keep your memory ?)

A. When I tune into this I do see we have residual memories or thoughts. Some people have more than others depending on the soul, experience (if there was trauma the memories or feelings look to "stick" more) and also the level of wiping that occurred in the "light" prior to incarnating. I see the memories are stored in the more primal part of the brain at the very top of the spinal cord. I even get an image of that section of brain and my mind zooms into it and I can see what looks like an encapsulated "spark" that wants to release its' thought/energy but cannot (looks like a symbol to show me that we want to see, feel or experience these past memories, but our rational, conscious part of our brain won't allow it.) I also get that the justification for blocking these thoughts, etc is to protect us from trauma that occurred in past lives, BUT the REAL reason for this is there is a higher power that wants to suppress humans and keep them in the incarnation loop on earth. If we were too in tune and were able to continue to grow where we left off we could become more intellectual and overcome those entities (and I get a "reptilian" looking ET) that are trying to hold us back. I also get a message saying something about if enough of us are able to reach to our higher selves we can overthrow those in power and rebuild a "new" type of earth..


and a look at .... Carlos Castaneda going thru the light after death :
I see this process of him dying, and his soul leaves his body. At the moment he see the light he starts making this noise- like a hum- that creates a vibration to his spiritual energy that counteracts the energy in the "light" (Never seen this before!!!). He maintains this sounds/vibration through the entire process until the incarnation occurs. It was as if his vibration was completely the opposite of the vibration of the light energy (I see a wave of light, and his vibration was exactly the inverse of that wave.) Some thoughts/knowledge are lost, but the majority is retained (AMAZING- I have never seen anything like this!).

from psychicfocusblogspot
 
crazycharlie.1 said:
Good Question ..

thats why i asked if the C's could comment on this ..
( is it possible to reincarnate and keep your memory ?)

A. When I tune into this I do see we have residual memories or thoughts. Some people have more than others depending on the soul, experience (if there was trauma the memories or feelings look to "stick" more) and also the level of wiping that occurred in the "light" prior to incarnating. I see the memories are stored in the more primal part of the brain at the very top of the spinal cord. I even get an image of that section of brain and my mind zooms into it and I can see what looks like an encapsulated "spark" that wants to release its' thought/energy but cannot (looks like a symbol to show me that we want to see, feel or experience these past memories, but our rational, conscious part of our brain won't allow it.) I also get that the justification for blocking these thoughts, etc is to protect us from trauma that occurred in past lives, BUT the REAL reason for this is there is a higher power that wants to suppress humans and keep them in the incarnation loop on earth. If we were too in tune and were able to continue to grow where we left off we could become more intellectual and overcome those entities (and I get a "reptilian" looking ET) that are trying to hold us back. I also get a message saying something about if enough of us are able to reach to our higher selves we can overthrow those in power and rebuild a "new" type of earth..

and a look at .... Carlos Castaneda going thru the light after death :
I see this process of him dying, and his soul leaves his body. At the moment he see the light he starts making this noise- like a hum- that creates a vibration to his spiritual energy that counteracts the energy in the "light" (Never seen this before!!!). He maintains this sounds/vibration through the entire process until the incarnation occurs. It was as if his vibration was completely the opposite of the vibration of the light energy (I see a wave of light, and his vibration was exactly the inverse of that wave.) Some thoughts/knowledge are lost, but the majority is retained (AMAZING- I have never seen anything like this!).

from psychicfocusblogspot

crazycharlie, one thing that makes me a bit wary of that site/person you reference above is that the message behind that excerpt you quoted to me seems to in effect, to be not trust the over-all growth/lesson-learning 'process'. Whenever she implies that she's received information that the natural process is a sort of 'trap' - (yet not a 'bad' one, yet kind of a 'trap'... :huh:) , I can only say that if it's not 'bad', then the only reason to really strive to avoid the natural process (including the amnesia upon re-incarnating) would be...

...impatience. Presuming to 'know better' than the natural growth process. Having this 'Let's game the system' attitude. Saying, in effect, ''I want to go faster than I'm supposed to.' Seems a bit STS-arrogant to me right now.

So, that subtext is making me cautious about that site/person.

And the fact that when someone at that other site asked if the Cassiopaean stuff was legit, she replied that she got that yes, it was? Doesn't reassure me. I mean, I think she means well, but what if she's getting a mix of both good and bad information from multiple sources, some of which might want any one who reads this forum to read this other person's site far less critically? We've been warned that the most effective way to disseminate disinfo is to mix it in with truth...
 
There are numerous references throughout the transcripts to life without a body (assuming one has a soul that survives!) so you might want to start by reading The Wave. You could also read Amazing Grace which is available for free (along with The Wave) on my website. cassiopaea.org
 
MoonSun said:
Hello everyone, do you know anything useful about after the death? Is there any clue about it in C's channeling? I know that no need to fear death but to be honest anything unknown bring insecurity feeling, how can I know death? I've studied a little on death meditation in Buddhism, what they say is not the same with what people say after the near death experience, what is correct? Thanks in advance for any comment!

Hello MoonSun, in the section of recommended books, you will find, useful books on this subject. https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33092.0.htm. The information I have is, once you die, ie leave the physical body, the next step is to go towards the light (5D mentioned by Cs), area known as contemplation, I think it's a place there is a kind of summary of the lessons as well as a recovery, depending on what you had to live the soul (in relation to trauma, pain, etc), once outside this 3D reality, there is no linear time, as we perceive us here, this point is important, see reality as multidimensional beings, as a sort of power point slides, all stocks simultaneously.

When the soul is ready for the next reincarnation, find that physical body that will be useful in its evolution, according to his lessons, that would come to learn.

There may be many reasons why some souls choose to not go to the light, Laura mentioned that the principal is religion, everything related to paradise and hell, the punishing god etc, and this fear of being judged, decide stay at the dawn of this reality, the so-called "world of spirits" other souls are simply attached to the physicality, they just decide to go here, attached to someone who resonates with their emotions, others simply no one told them they had to go to the light, and fall prey to some kind demonic entities .

On the other hand, they are the OP, whose evolution in the scheme of the universe, is to get individualized soul in this incarnation, if unsuccessful, the next step in 5D, would be the second death.

I found some sessions in which the Cs have mentioned the death, and a session with someone who knew Laura, and she could talk to her, from 5D. It was wonderful, I calm enough.

Laura said:
April 28, 1996
Frank, Pat Z, Laura.

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34908.msg496292.html#msg496292

This was an interesting session night. If you refer back to the immediately previous session of 24 April, you'll note the reference to cardiac concerns. On the 25th of April, my close friend, Sandra, suffered cardiac arrest probably due to thrombosis. She was found by a janitor cleaning the offices where she was working late. She was supposed to stop by my house that evening, but never showed up. I figured something came up and she would call me. When another day went by and I had not heard from her, I called to find out what was going on and learned about her collapse, that she was in the hospital, but that she had been found too late; she was on total life support only until all of the family could assemble.

With the permission of the family, I was allowed in to see her. I spent some time talking to her and found it hard to believe that she was gone because her eyelids would flicker and her fingers would move when I talked to her. Anyway, I was very distressed and that night I determined to either try to communicate with her or ask the Cs about her. So, the first part of this session was dedicated to that.Unfortunately, the tape was lost and all I have are the handwritten notes of the responses, but I will try to reconstruct the session below.It was around midnight when we began.

Q: Hello.

A: Hello. You wanted to contact Sandra?

Q: Who do we have with us tonight?

A: Yturso.

Q: And where are you communicating from?

A: Cassiopaea.

Q: I would like to know if it is possible to communicate with Sandra?

A: Maybe. If you wish to speak with her, we must “step out of the way”.

Q:

A: With, not “to.”

Q: Is there any chance that she will recover?

A: No.

Q:

A: In order for you to contact her in any way, we must leave!!Temporarily, of course!

Q: Is it safe for you to give up the channel?

A: Yes.

Q: Well, I'm a little skeptical.

A: Try it.

Q: How will I know it's really Sandra?

A: Discover

Q: Okay, let's try it.

A: Done!

Q: Sandra, are you there?

A: Yes.

Q: When I was talking to you at the hospital, were you trying to respond to me?

A: No.

Here there followed a series of “no” responses that indicated that Sandra was not coming back to her body. I asked her how she felt”

A: Good. I'm just getting started!

Then, more or less out of the blue the following came:

A: Don't shoot! Let the young girl go!

Q: What do you mean?

A: You'll see. Station. Radio.

That was rather puzzling and since it didn't seem to be anything but static, we didn't pursue it. It was only on the following day that we learned that the Port Arthur, Tasmania, massacre was taking place at exactly that time.

Q: Are you having problems communicating?

A: My first time. I'm better on the other side of the board. [Sandra had sat with us to communicate with Cs on a number of occasions.]

Q: I asked something about whether she was in and out of her body.

A: Yesterday was last time. I just came in for a little while.

Several “no” answers which I think were about whether she suffered any pain. Then I asked her what was she thinking about when she suffered the “event”.

A: Dinner.

Q: What did it feel like?

A: Felt like fainting. I had a funny feeling in my stomach. Weak in the arms, then a tingling in my fingers. Then lights flickered then flash then a popping in my head then a dream. Then I saw myself on the floor. I felt good.

Q: Were you afraid?

A: No. I thought, well of course I'm dead, who wouldn't be after all that?

Q: Then I asked her something about whether she was stuck or could she go into the light.

A: No, Laura. You really don't know about this. I am in the light.

Q: I just don't want you to get stuck anywhere.

A: When have I ever been stuck? This is fun! There is no right or wrong here either. This is like a school. This is fun! Do you know when I last had fun?

Q: I said something about how much I would miss her.

A: Laura, don't be a spoilsport!

Q: Here I asked how could I be sure that I was talking to Sandra.

A: Figures in file cabinet. Think. Tom was mad.

This referred to a practical joke she and I pulled when we worked together at the state welfare office, HRS. We had put little dressmaking mink heads and tails in a file folder, sticking out like the whole critter was in there, and then sent the secretary to get a file that would be found in that drawer. When she opened it, she threw a whole stack of files she was carrying into the air and ran screaming from the room. And yes, the lead worker, Tom, was really upset with us. No one else in the room (F and P) knew about this.

Q: I said something like I couldn't be sure…

A: Oh, Laura, I'm doing my best! Do you want my fingerprints?

At this point, I said my farewells with great sadness and we let Sandra go and then asked for the Cs to return.
Laura said:
July 19, 1995
Frank Direct Channeling, Laura, SV

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,34871.msg495755.html#msg495755
Q: (L) Now, the question has arisen that, since other dimensional beings have the ability to kidnap or abduct or forcibly extract souls, do they also have the capability of manipulating our soul essences after they have left our bodies during the transition to fifth density?

A: Not correct.

Q: (L) They do not?

A: No, you see when your physical body expires, and you enter fifth density, this is done one way and one way only: by passing through a conduit which opens specifically for the purpose of transference from third density to fifth density. Now, something often referred to in your terminology as a silver thread, is like a closed line which opens when this conduit is needed. That's rather awkward, but it's the only way to describe it. So that when the physical body terminates, this line is opened forming a conduit through which the soul passes naturally.However, part of the existence of this conduit is that it is absolutely impenetrable by any force from any density level. Therefore, souls in the process of transferring from third density to fifth density are not in any way able to be molested or tampered with. And it should be mentioned here, also, that the soul imprint of the physical body always has a connection to fifth density and that is through the so-called "silver thread." That always exists as the third density soul's doorway to fifth density. It can be opened at a moment's notice whenever needed. When it is opened it becomes a conduit. Through that conduit the soul passes. And it is not subject to interference by anything. This is not a deliberate construction, it is merely the natural process similar to what could be described as the protection mechanisms existing on second level density for creatures which are not capable of protecting themselves through their own conscious thought processes. For example, your turtle is contained within a shell that protects it. That shell is impenetrable by any natural forces, therefore nothing that is natural can harm that turtle. However, the same can exist for any creature when it is connected by the silver thread to fifth density. Once it is passing through the conduit produced by the opening of the silver thread, then, of course, it cannot be tampered with. Do you understand?

Q: (L) Yes, but why do so many souls, when they leave the body, not traverse this conduit, and why do they stay earthbound, and why do they attach to other bodies? Why does this condition exist?

A: That is a complicated question, however the best answer is choice is involved there for those souls who wish not to leave the plane of third density. The only possibility to do this is to be detached from the now expired physical body but still be within the third density plane, which, of course, is not natural, but nonetheless can occur. In situations such as this, though it has been incorrectly reported, the silver thread is still attached and still remains a thread rather than a conduit. The soul is still attached to the silver thread but detached from the host body which has now expired. So the effect is very similar to being consciously aware of third density surroundings without a third density unit to accompany. Do you understand?

Q: (L) Yes. Okay...

A: Also, please be aware of the fact that once the soul leaves the confines of the physical body, the illusion of time passage is no longer apparent even when the soul remains on the third density plane.Therefore, it appears to that soul that no time whatsoever has passed.And, we mention this merely for you to contemplate all of the various meanings behind this.
 
Thank you riclapaz for that quote, which I will not re-quote, but I will pose a question somewhat related to it, hoping you can point me to a thread:
"what happens to those who do not have souls, who are perceived to 'die'?
If they do not possess a soul, can they still continue into 5D?"
I'm surmising that they do, else how could STS exist on 4D..
Putting the fun into funerals.
 
MusicMan said:
Thank you riclapaz for that quote, which I will not re-quote, but I will pose a question somewhat related to it, hoping you can point me to a thread:
"what happens to those who do not have souls, who are perceived to 'die'?
If they do not possess a soul, can they still continue into 5D?"

Hi MusicMan, I think that the move to 5D, is the same for everyone, the organic portals, they use the energy pool of souls, mentioned by Cs, at the time that the organic portals leave the physical body, the "spirit" or mental body? (I can not find another word that fits better here) going towards the light, and once in the 5D, remains temporarily, until the second death.


I think even without having an individualized soul, this consciousness or energy pool, with which organic portals can live, here on earth, returns to its source, and that's when the "spirit" of the OP fades.

I hope I'm not digress much in my thoughts. :/
 
Once again thanks riclapaz, that rings a bell.
The 'soul pool' is where it's at for the OP's.
 
riclapaz said:
MusicMan said:
Thank you riclapaz for that quote, which I will not re-quote, but I will pose a question somewhat related to it, hoping you can point me to a thread:
"what happens to those who do not have souls, who are perceived to 'die'?
If they do not possess a soul, can they still continue into 5D?"

Hi MusicMan, I think that the move to 5D, is the same for everyone, the organic portals, they use the energy pool of souls, mentioned by Cs, at the time that the organic portals leave the physical body, the "spirit" or mental body? (I can not find another word that fits better here) going towards the light, and once in the 5D, remains temporarily, until the second death.


I think even without having an individualized soul, this consciousness or energy pool, with which organic portals can live, here on earth, returns to its source, and that's when the "spirit" of the OP fades.

I hope I'm not digress much in my thoughts. :/

That sounds about right to me, too.
 
I do find it amazing that something that all of us have done can still be a mystery. It's that Triple Veil, or something, I'm not really clear about this. In past lives, traumatic situations cast a shadow over the present life; Fear of water, fear of knives (in my case, because I was bayoneted), fear of loss and so on. How about the In-term period between lives? I suppose that would be 5th Density and then we have a review and plan where we incarnate next. So, if that happened many times, why don't I have access to the Life Plan, So very important. Yet, trauma in past lives often casts a dark shadow on the present life. Others that have pondered the Mystery of Death consider it merely a change of garment/change of Neighborhood.

Well, at the rate things are going, I hope and pray this is MY LAST GO-AROUND! Shceesh! NO, water, money, electricity, food that hasn't spoiled and and...

I don't even know why I bothered to come back here, Unless there is something I'm missing--Hmmm..- I couldn't be here if i didn't fit, and free will, so, nobody forced me to come back down,,, if, if, if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his butt and if I got an "E" ticket-- I tell ya.. Life is just one Great Mystery.

Contemplating the reason for existence, Wyatt :cool2: :cool2: :lkj: :lkj: :scooter:
 
Wyatt Shipley said:
I do find it amazing that something that all of us have done can still be a mystery. It's that Triple Veil, or something, I'm not really clear about this. In past lives, traumatic situations cast a shadow over the present life; Fear of water, fear of knives (in my case, because I was bayoneted), fear of loss and so on. How about the In-term period between lives?

Yes, the time between one life and another, I think it may be variable, for each soul, if time is not linearly as here, then until the soul finds a body with the conditions it needs to continue its evolution, remain 5D on hold.

Wyatt Shipley said:
I suppose that would be 5th Density and then we have a review and plan where we incarnate next. So, if that happened many times, why don't I have access to the Life Plan, So very important. Yet, trauma in past lives often casts a dark shadow on the present life. Others that have pondered the Mystery of Death consider it merely a change of garment/change of Neighborhood.

Well, I think the answer to why we do not remember, has some points, the first and I think most importantly, is that the soul agrees, in this contract, to embody, lose the memory of 5D, so to speak, another aspect to consider, is that the soul would have to do their job, to have some memories of past lives, making an analogy, in 5D, tell us the issues that will come in the "exam" that we present here on earth, incarnated soul depends on the direction to take his life, decisions lead us to create that reality, in this evolutionary journey, the soul can make "mistakes", mainly through ignorance, entering the karmic laws, appearing traumas lives past, balancing decisions that caused some harm to others, etc.

In the end all are lessons
 
Hello
May I ask what is OP abbreviation for?

Hello MoonSun. You can find out from this link,

 
Hello MoonSun. You can find out from this link,

Thank you Kay Kim
 

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