Qigong Distant Energy Healing - I need advice

[Deleted member 11729]

I need advice. Is it good or bad idea to take part at Qigong Distant Energy Healing proces?

Two years ago I took a prt in this sessions done by Michael Mohoric. I was participating for few monts, and I took one monthly "individual" seesion, and I feelt quite extrodinary energy flow though my body, what brought me very good results in overall purification, memory regeneration, body regeneration, emotinal balance ... It was for me very kind of expirience I had after my acupuncture sessions, and I found it very beneficial at that time.

_http://www.qigongenergyhealing.com/

But now as I am learning more through this forum and books I am reading, I feel kind of scared and not confident any more is it good to participate in it or not?

Here is anauncement of the session for this saturday:

Qigong Distant Energy Healing

FREE DISTANT HEALING-Today, JUNE 13. You can feel energy anytime today. The main session is from 6-7pm Pacific Time-PST (Los Angeles) but you can feel a lot of energy before then. Thousands of people have reported the sessions have helped them reduce or eliminate pain, stress, anxiety, boost energy and help heal many illnesses. The energy works on all levels, mental, physical and emotional.

The session is very easy to join. Just spend a few minutes reading the instructions, link below. That is all you have to do to participate. The energy flow is continuous and you receive the energy when it is the best time for you to receive it. People have been reporting feeling the energy all week. Everyone is different in when they can best utilize the energy so people will feel the effects at different times.
Please tell your friends. The sessions have helped many people.

Some will feel more energy before the main session and the main session may not feel like much is happening. This is because your system has received most of the energy that it can utilize at that time and then the main session will be more of a time for balancing and integrating what you have already received.

Some people will continue to feel the energy working in their system long after the session is over.

Usually about half the people will feel the energy working in their body but even if you don't feel it, it is still working. If you don't feel the energy then look for other signs such as you can feel more energetic, upbeat, feel less stressed and have less pain.

You can also feel the effects of purification such as you may feel more tired, achy or emotional than usual. Even though this is temporarily uncomfortable it is very healing because you are releasing the impurities in your system that can cause many problems. The cleansing can be on many levels, physical, mental and emotional.

I greatly appreciate people sharing their experiences of the energy healing on the wall. There are many different ways to experience it and it helps others understand the process better and what they may be going through. Like any modality this doesn't work for everyone and often it just takes more time for the energy to work through big blockages.

Just use your mental intention to join after reading the instructions on the blog, link below. You don't need to write your symptoms on the wall as the energy will automatically find the most important blockages.

You can include others in the session by following the instructions. It is easy to add others by following the directions, link below. You can tag others to let them know but just putting names on the wall won’t include them unless they follow the instructions. If someone doesn't have a computer you can read them the directions over the phone and they can choose to join. You can also give them a printed copy.

I appreciate your gratitude. I am not the source of the energy and give all credit to the Divine, Universe, Spirit or whatever term one wants to use.

The best way to show your gratitude is to tell your friends about the free session.
You can use -7GMT to convert the time to other countries.
Be sure to read the instructions so you know what to expect.

and here is the link to the web and instrucitons:
_http://www.qigongenergyhealing.com/free-qigong-distant-energy-healing-worldwide-21/

Thank you all who can tell me more about that.

 

[Thor]

Just read the guys website. He sounds sincere enough but I would still not want to participate in the healing session. To my understanding Reiki healing, pranic healing and qi-gong healing are the same energy that is being utilised. However, the energetic state of the healer supposedly can have a big impact on the quality of the healing going from simply not working to tainting the energy with negative energy.

It seems like he has studied with some masters but the "breakthrough" came as a result of an accident and from then on he has been experimenting with distant healing of groups. The part that I don't like so much is the fact that he seems to be developing parts of the protocol as he goes along and that can be risky if you don't know what you're doing. Secondly, getting so many people to set their intent on being healed an "opening up and inviting energy in" seems like veritable smorgasbord for negative entities.

Just my two cents :)

 

[Deleted member 11729]

Just read the guys website. He sounds sincere enough but I would still not want to participate in the healing session.
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The part that I don't like so much is the fact that he seems to be developing parts of the protocol as he goes along and that can be risky if you don't know what you're doing. Secondly, getting so many people to set their intent on being healed an "opening up and inviting energy in" seems like veritable smorgasbord for negative entities.

Just my two cents :)

Thank you very much for your feedback. Yes I also feel he is sincer and positive, we exchanged also email communication as he has origins form Croatia, and yes that was also interested for me too. But before that I was also very non open to get involved in that kind of energy exchange, and yes exactly now when I learned more about negative entities, I am not sure in this collective sessions, if that can open up wrong and unwilling connections? As on the other side I had good physical effect when I was participating, and no any bad side effects that I am aware off.

I also just found this thread on the forum, I am reading it right now. http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23198.msg254963.html#msg254963

 

[David]

Qigong Distant Energy Healing

^{FREE DISTANT HEALING-Today, JUNE 13. You can feel energy anytime today. The main session is from 6-7pm Pacific Time-PST (Los Angeles) but you can feel a lot of energy before then.}

<sup>Could this simply be a ‘placebo effect,’ or maybe call it the power of suggestion...

And could relying on alleged special folk facilitate a disempowerment of what nature already provided, or are we to become like a type of vegetable being feed and watered, so to speak.

One could try a little faith in the self, one might be pleasantly surprised, why not.

Just saying... FWIW (when referring to vegetable, I'm self referencing)</sup>

 

[obyvatel]

[quote author=solarmind]
I need advice. Is it good or bad idea to take part at Qigong Distant Energy Healing proces?
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Is there a specific problem that you are trying to address this way or is it more like a general feel good energy boost?

 

[Deleted member 11729]

[quote author=solarmind]
I need advice. Is it good or bad idea to take part at Qigong Distant Energy Healing proces?

Is there a specific problem that you are trying to address this way or is it more like a general feel good energy boost?
[/quote]

If I understood right your question, you asked me do I have any particular health reason to go for Qigong. If so than yes I do. It is not any serious illness or so, but I started acupuncture 10 years ago as I had probelms with water retention and swelling of legs and arms in PMS phase of the month, and also at that period my eye diopter get more affected and I feel more tired. Acupuncture fixed all that for me, and even more, and talking to my doctor I understood that it all has to do with Lymph, and how my physical symptoms were reparid I also felt less stressed and my mind was working much much better. And two years ago I came across this Qigong sessions by Michael Mohoric, and reading about that I understood that it has similar effects as acupuncture, and I decided to try, and that was even better. But as I wrote, after getting involved more into the Work and knowledge about our world presented here, I am concern if this group sessions are good, and is there any danger to open up energy flow for unwilling entities, or so, as I am not quite sure how it works in group sessions, do we get energeticaly united some how on a certan level that is created by the healer, is that only affecting our body regeneration process through cleaning and boosting lymphatic system? Can this be dangerous at any level?

 

[obyvatel]

Acupuncture addresses specific health issues by using specific positions and sequences of acupoint stimulation. A traditional therapeutic qigong practice is also specific addressing specific organs and energy flow. Qigong is also practiced for general energy boosts as part of kung fu or internal martial arts. Such practices are physical as well as meditation and mental imagery based.


As for risks- they are there in any medical or therapeutic systems. Along with knowledge about the process, the questions in my mind would be the skill level of the practitioner and the potential benefits that I can derive if things go well. If I find the procedure iffy and not much to gain from it anyway, I would not expose myself to the associated risks.


A distant group qigong session - assuming it is effective - can only provide a general boost of energy etc. It cannot be used for addressing any specific requirements. In general, I am a little suspicious of non- traditional uses of traditional disciplines which have a distinctly new agey flavor - like spooky action at a distance with one getting something for free without much effort on one's own part. Traditional qigong and martial arts practitioners that I am familiar with are surprised at the gullibility of western people who believe that such practices can work the way advertised (new age style) and are rather mortified that the name of the art they studied and practiced through out their lives are being used in such questionable ways.


[quote author=solarmind]
I am not quite sure how it works in group sessions, do we get energeticaly united some how on a certan level that is created by the healer, is that only affecting our body regeneration process through cleaning and boosting lymphatic system? Can this be dangerous at any level?
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I do not know how it can work either. From what I have learned, the phenomenon of transmitting and receiving energy like radio waves using our brain/mind as the transceiver is real. But just like one needs a specially constructed apparatus like radio specifically tuned to resonate with certain frequencies to actually receive a signal and decode it meaningfully, similar mechanisms need to be in place for our minds as well. People say just intention is enough but I personally do not buy that. Most such things perhaps boil down to placebo and their effects are mostly short lived - a brief feel good period followed by business as usual.

As for negative entities coming in through such ways - it could be possible. There are many other ways in which negative entities can come in as well. If this is specially dangerous or not I cannot say. Depends on the specific way things are done.

 

[kenlee]

It might be best to utilize your own will rather then be dependent on another will for this "healing". Any benefits received would probably not pass the test of time since life moves at such a fast pace, we change moment to moment and become identified with it and it's very easy to get swallowed up by it all and any benefits received from another without applying ones own will on a continuous moment to moment basis will quickly dissipate. Better, I think, to rely on your own will in cultivating awareness and increasing your energy levels. I think a good example of the cultivating of this 'finer' awareness is in the Japanese tea ceremony:

_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_tea_ceremony

The Japanese tea ceremony developed as a "transformative practice", and began to evolve its own aesthetic, in particular that of "sabi" and "wabi" principles. "Wabi" represents the inner, or spiritual, experiences of human lives. Its original meaning indicated quiet or sober refinement, or subdued taste "characterized by humility, restraint, simplicity, naturalism, profundity, imperfection, and asymmetry" and "emphasizes simple, unadorned objects and architectural space, and celebrates the mellow beauty that time and care impart to materials."[7] "Sabi," on the other hand, represents the outer, or material side of life. Originally, it meant "worn," "weathered," or "decayed." Particularly among the nobility, understanding emptiness was considered the most effective means to spiritual awakening, while embracing imperfection was honoured as a healthy reminder to cherish our unpolished selves, here and now, just as we are - the first step to "satori" or enlightenment.

Maybe if you can find moments in your life to "get into the moment" and cultivate the kind of refined awareness described above, in whatever you might be doing, even if it's only for a short period of time, then I think this can help increase your energy level and balance out the mechanical madness and energy loss we deal with daily living in a mad world. Of course diet, breathing, and everything that goes along with the psychological Work studied in this forum are equally important as well. Just some thoughts on this fwiw.

 

[Shared Joy]

Acupuncture addresses specific health issues by using specific positions and sequences of acupoint stimulation. A traditional therapeutic qigong practice is also specific addressing specific organs and energy flow. Qigong is also practiced for general energy boosts as part of kung fu or internal martial arts. Such practices are physical as well as meditation and mental imagery based.


As for risks- they are there in any medical or therapeutic systems. Along with knowledge about the process, the questions in my mind would be the skill level of the practitioner and the potential benefits that I can derive if things go well. If I find the procedure iffy and not much to gain from it anyway, I would not expose myself to the associated risks.


A distant group qigong session - assuming it is effective - can only provide a general boost of energy etc. It cannot be used for addressing any specific requirements. In general, I am a little suspicious of non- traditional uses of traditional disciplines which have a distinctly new agey flavor - like spooky action at a distance with one getting something for free without much effort on one's own part. Traditional qigong and martial arts practitioners that I am familiar with are surprised at the gullibility of western people who believe that such practices can work the way advertised (new age style) and are rather mortified that the name of the art they studied and practiced through out their lives are being used in such questionable ways.


[quote author=solarmind]
I am not quite sure how it works in group sessions, do we get energeticaly united some how on a certan level that is created by the healer, is that only affecting our body regeneration process through cleaning and boosting lymphatic system? Can this be dangerous at any level?

I do not know how it can work either. From what I have learned, the phenomenon of transmitting and receiving energy like radio waves using our brain/mind as the transceiver is real. But just like one needs a specially constructed apparatus like radio specifically tuned to resonate with certain frequencies to actually receive a signal and decode it meaningfully, similar mechanisms need to be in place for our minds as well. People say just intention is enough but I personally do not buy that. Most such things perhaps boil down to placebo and their effects are mostly short lived - a brief feel good period followed by business as usual.

As for negative entities coming in through such ways - it could be possible. There are many other ways in which negative entities can come in as well. If this is specially dangerous or not I cannot say. Depends on the specific way things are done.

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Note: emphases mine

Hi Solarmind,
I second Obyvatel's observations. I also add that qigong is beneficial when practiced - I've been doing it for 12 years and helped me to stay fit, more aware and flexible. So it takes your effort to get some benefits! Acupuncture is also good. But it has to be client specific.

I don't believe in lasting effects of such "mass actions". It can easily go beyond anybody's power to control it, no matter what kind of "master" he is, and the results could be confusing and quite dangerous.

Stick to your personal needs and to those who could help you on a 1-1 basis.
Best wishes

Joy

 

[Deleted member 11729]

thank you all very much for sharing your thoughts.

I can relate to the fact that to get to real result it has to be kind of effort done on 1-1 basis. Some how that is to easy ehat is offered here - you just make a wish, and energy goes through .... :) ... But even though in this remote sessions, I don't think that my feelling of energy flow was placebo. Most of the time, when I did that 2 years ago, I was asleep, but the effects of "cleaning" I had the day and week after the session were present.

But, now recapitulating the results, yes you are right, acupuncture had much longer effect on the overall results that did helped me in general to decrees PMS water retention and tiredness, that I use to have before I start practice acupuncture.

I think that my fascination with Qi remote session is probably more with that kind of "concetedness" on energy level, but at that time I wasn't aware of possibility that that can be a way to open up connection to the energies I don't want to be associate with. Now reading your objections that are quite similar to mine in this new experiences I have, for my body regeneration, I need to get more discipline around more consistent paleo diet and practice of EE programs :) .... and yep if I am not aware to maximum of pro and cons, I'll better keep off the global group experiments with energy ...

thank you one more time for shairng your thoughts and valuable info :)

 

[Michael M]

Qigong Distant Energy Healing

This is a late response because I recently found being mentioned in this thread.

There have been dozens of clinical studies showing the effectiveness of distant healing on people, animals and plants. You can do a search for “A Review of Distant Healing Studies” and find many references. A good review is at www.thehealingtrust.org.uk/node/134

The Facebook Qigong Distant Energy Healing page has over 200,000 plus Likes and thousands of people have posted how the free distant healing sessions have helped them overcome pain, anxiety, depression and many dis-eases. For the last several years, about once a month, there has been a 4—5 day free distant healing event that anyone can join.

Not everyone gets helped with energy (qi) healing but many people have been helped. There is no modality that I am aware of that works for everyone all the time.

Some claim that placebo is the reason for the healing effect in energy healing but the fact that clinical studies show it works on animals and plants seem to contradict this idea. Placebo is a real factor in a lot of healing but when children, plants and animals respond to energy healing then placebo can probably be ruled out as a factor.

Having one’s own practice is very beneficial and recommended but sometimes an extra qi boost can be very beneficial and help to release blockages that may be difficult to release on your own. Many people don’t have the time for a dedicated practice so sometimes using other sources can help release blockages and build one’s field.

I understand why people would be skeptical of distant healing. I was very skeptical when first hearing about it and I had been around alternative healing for many years. What convinced me that distant healing was valid is that Qigong Master Zi Sheng Wang would go to Tibet and transmit qi to groups of people in different cities in the US and the qi was as strong and palpable as if he was in the room doing a healing session. Master Wang now resides in Tibet and China.

Not only is there plenty of anecdotal evidence, there are also many scientific studies that validate the effectiveness of distant healing. I feel the distant qi or energy healing may help the mind/body to come into energetic balance so that the latent healing abilities of the person can heal itself. Like any modality, distant healing won’t help everyone but many people report they get great results.

A distant group qigong session - assuming it is effective - can only provide a general boost of energy etc. It cannot be used for addressing any specific requirements. In general, I am a little suspicious of non- traditional uses of traditional disciplines which have a distinctly new agey flavor - like spooky action at a distance with one getting something for free without much effort on one's own part. Traditional qigong and martial arts practitioners that I am familiar with are surprised at the gullibility of western people who believe that such practices can work the way advertised (new age style) and are rather mortified that the name of the art they studied and practiced through out their lives are being used in such questionable ways"

[quote author=solarmind]
I am not quite sure how it works in group sessions, do we get energeticaly united some how on a certan level that is created by the healer, is that only affecting our body regeneration process through cleaning and boosting lymphatic system? Can this be dangerous at any level?

I do not know how it can work either. From what I have learned, the phenomenon of transmitting and receiving energy like radio waves using our brain/mind as the transceiver is real. But just like one needs a specially constructed apparatus like radio specifically tuned to resonate with certain frequencies to actually receive a signal and decode it meaningfully, similar mechanisms need to be in place for our minds as well. People say just intention is enough but I personally do not buy that. Most such things perhaps boil down to placebo and their effects are mostly short lived - a brief feel good period followed by business as usual.

As for negative entities coming in through such ways - it could be possible. There are many other ways in which negative entities can come in as well. If this is specially dangerous or not I cannot say. Depends on the specific way things are done."

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Response to Above:

Regarding that the session can't address specific issues and cannot be used for specific requirements. You can go to the Facebook Qigong Distant Healing page and read thousands of posts that show the sessions address specific issues. Also many report the effects are long lasting and life transformative.

I was invited and conducted a distant Qi healing session for the attendees for the 13th World Congress on Qigong and Traditional Chinese Medicine so as far as being a questionable practice, it is recognized by some experts and authorities in the field.

Regarding Is it dangerous? No, again you can read through the many posts and and judge for yourself if you think it there is a problem. Can entities come through? No. The energy field is too high of a vibration and frequency for entities to come through. Entities do not want to get near this high frequency field. Many entities will be released in the process. I have worked with hundreds and hundreds of traditional Qigong, Tai Chi and Yoga teachers, acupuncturists, medical intuitives, mediums, professional psychics, some well known meditation masters and never have had a report of energy attachment, only the releasing of such things.

Qigong has been practiced for thousands of years and distant healing has been practiced in China and Tibet for a very long time. My teacher, Master ZiSheng Wang, comes from a lineage that traces back to Padmasambhava, the founder of Tibetan Buddhism. Master Wang and a couple of other well known Qigong Masters in China would fill up stadiums and transmit energy or Qi to tens of thousands of attendees.

Please excuse me if this is not in the proper format. I usually don't post in forums unless they show up in searches for this work. My intention was not to offend anyone, only to clarify some misconceptions. I am not the doer, only the conduit for energy to reach people. I give all credit to the Divine, Universe or whatever term one wants to use for a higher intelligence.

Peace,
Michael Mohoric

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[Z...]

But, now recapitulating the results, yes you are right, acupuncture had much longer effect on the overall results that did helped me in general to decrees PMS water retention and tiredness, that I use to have before I start practice acupuncture.

Just a small side note.
The effectiveness of acupuncture is highly dependent on expertise of the practitioner. Acupuncture is just one segment of Traditional Chinese Medicine and it is meant to be practiced together with other 4 segments - Pulse and tongue diagnostics, Herbology, Food therapy and Tui Na ( form of chiropractic on the meridians). Acupuncture on its own or so called Cookbook acupuncture ( which is mostly practiced in the West) can give some ( pretty limited) result but this is nothing in comparison with results you can achieve working with a properly qualified TCM practitioner who can be able to address body dis-harmonies at their very root.

As for the Qigong distance healing I dont know. To me it seems like somewhat disingenuous shortcut, completely contrary to very premise of this type of work- cultivating your own energy to be able to harness its effects.

My few cents FWIW.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

Re: Qigong Distant Energy Healing

This is a late response because I recently found being mentioned in this thread.

[quote author=solarmind]
I am not quite sure how it works in group sessions, do we get energeticaly united some how on a certan level that is created by the healer, is that only affecting our body regeneration process through cleaning and boosting lymphatic system? Can this be dangerous at any level?

As for negative entities coming in through such ways - it could be possible. There are many other ways in which negative entities can come in as well. If this is specially dangerous or not I cannot say. Depends on the specific way things are done."

Response to Above:

Regarding that the session can't address specific issues and cannot be used for specific requirements. You can go to the Facebook Qigong Distant Healing page and read thousands of posts that show the sessions address specific issues. Also many report the effects are long lasting and life transformative.

I was invited and conducted a distant Qi healing session for the attendees for the 13th World Congress on Qigong and Traditional Chinese Medicine so as far as being a questionable practice, it is recognized by some experts and authorities in the field.

Regarding Is it dangerous? No, again you can read through the many posts and and judge for yourself if you think it there is a problem. Can entities come through? No. The energy field is too high of a vibration and frequency for entities to come through. Entities do not want to get near this high frequency field. Many entities will be released in the process. I have worked with hundreds and hundreds of traditional Qigong, Tai Chi and Yoga teachers, acupuncturists, medical intuitives, mediums, professional psychics, some well known meditation masters and never have had a report of energy attachment, only the releasing of such things.

Please excuse me if this is not in the proper format. I usually don't post in forums unless they show up in searches for this work. My intention was not to offend anyone, only to clarify some misconceptions. I am not the doer, only the conduit for energy to reach people. I give all credit to the Divine, Universe or whatever term one wants to use for a higher intelligence.

Peace,
Michael Mohoric

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Dear Michael

Thank you for your feedback and more info on the possibilities and impossibilities for the entities to get attached ... As I already mentioned, after I did first group distant heeling, physiology of my body start functioning much much better, and I did "book" one month of individual treatment, and that was even more effective on body cleaning, that improved for sure all other issues too, but after I decided to follow The Work, and specially after I learned from here better about all this "hidden" world, that we are not fully aware off, and that we can't get fully aware even of ourselves, I was a bit worried if something like entity attachment can happen through connection at group distant healing practice, but this explanation gives me more trust in the whole process. Thank you one more time for explanation.

 

[Deleted member 11729]

But, now recapitulating the results, yes you are right, acupuncture had much longer effect on the overall results that did helped me in general to decrees PMS water retention and tiredness, that I use to have before I start practice acupuncture.

Just a small side note.
The effectiveness of acupuncture is highly dependent on expertise of the practitioner. Acupuncture is just one segment of Traditional Chinese Medicine and it is meant to be practiced together with other 4 segments - Pulse and tongue diagnostics, Herbology, Food therapy and Tui Na ( form of chiropractic on the meridians). Acupuncture on its own or so called Cookbook acupuncture ( which is mostly practiced in the West) can give some ( pretty limited) result but this is nothing in comparison with results you can achieve working with a properly qualified TCM practitioner who can be able to address body dis-harmonies at their very root.

As for the Qigong distance healing I dont know. To me it seems like somewhat disingenuous shortcut, completely contrary to very premise of this type of work- cultivating your own energy to be able to harness its effects.

My few cents FWIW.

Thank you Z for the very useful info ... I didn't know for all this other "practice", but yes the treatment will start with tongue examination and pulse ... but there was something more about him, he never talked too much, and even though he seams to be quite traditional middle age doctor, having regular practice in hospital too, what I was always thinking is that it is not just about practice, but also who is doing acupuncture and how is that done in relation to the complete person, and main disturbing personal mental problem, that is causing body troubles ... I remember that after a year I started to have, what I called memory "allocation" syndrome, or in other words, after acupuncture all my worries will become just a tasks that have to be done, and my focus will be removed from emotional looping states of light depression and anxiety, towards full bost of intelectual and creative energy, that can solve any problem ... and through the time I felt how that emotional negative state of mind was released... also now knowing more about emotions and our body machine, I see how that acupuncture actually helped me to progress in my personal spiritual development, not just healing my body, but clearing my mind too, what helped, and probably even initiate cutting of some bad relations in my life, through my "improved" behaviour, that wasn't any more open to emotional manipulations, but I wasn't aware of that at that time, on the same way as I understand it now ...

 

[Ellipse]

Qi Gong distant healing is certainly a true thing but, as already noticed, how do you know you open yourself to only STO influence when you receive?
And I'm asking myself if a distinction should not be done between OP and souled body when receiving such treatment.