Question Regarding Nephalim/Nephilim females

[Appollynon]

In reading through a lot of the material on site and most of the books produced, I have seen many times the C's reference to the Nephalim being an exclusively male race. the C's also alluded to the fact that although the Nephalim are 3rd Density beings, they have been abducted and taken to the 4th density where they are grown by the 4D STS forces (likeley Lizzie/Grey/Orion).

I read this again last night and it made me think "Hmmm...if the Nephalim are 3D denisty...did they at some point reproduce without being grown and before the STS 4D co-opted there race? And if so what happened to the female Nephalim that would have been needed for their race to reproduce in a natural way?"

Has anyone in the QFS asked this same question? Have the C's ever mentioned anything about this? From what the C's had said I guess it is possible that they are simply a biogentically engineered hybrid race of male beings that didn't evolve in the same way as humans have through male/female reproduction (somewhat like the artificially created Greys), but there had been no such mention of this type of genetic engineering.

This also made me wonder about the sexual orientation of the Nephalim males. I remeber that Laura had asked if the Nephalim could mate compatibly with human females, and the C's alluded to them having the neccesary parts, just of the super-sized variety and that it wasn't possible. This makes me wonder how the 4D STS are keeping the Nephalim agreeable to their plans if there are no female Nephalim around. 36 Million males and not a female in sight! this makes me wonder if they have been altered (neutered may be a better word to use) to supress their sexual cravings (if indeed they ever had any)?

 

[highmystica]

ever watch robotech? The zentradi stike me as being a prime metaphore for the nephalim and the women of that species were kept so completely seperate ... no I don't tink a cartoon saga I watched when in grade school is totally true - that kinda goes without saying, but the remarks the zentradi over max and myria's daughter has for some reason stuck with me all these years - they the zentradi (or nephalim if you will) were horrified by what this female zentradi created with a human male by a more natural method. The zentradi were after all a cloned race. The thing that bugs me most is that the male nephalim have a double y thing going on and that is not just what the c's have said ...

 

[rs]

In reading through a lot of the material on site and most of the books produced, I have seen many times the C's reference to the Nephalim being an exclusively male race.

I don't remember this. Do you have a reference or link?

 

[brainwave]

In reading through a lot of the material on site and most of the books produced, I have seen many times the C's reference to the Nephalim being an exclusively male race. the C's also alluded to the fact that although the Nephalim are 3rd Density beings, they have been abducted and taken to the 4th density where they are grown by the 4D STS forces (likeley Lizzie/Grey/Orion).

I read this again last night and it made me think "Hmmm...if the Nephalim are 3D denisty...did they at some point reproduce without being grown and before the STS 4D co-opted there race? And if so what happened to the female Nephalim that would have been needed for their race to reproduce in a natural way?"

Has anyone in the QFS asked this same question? Have the C's ever mentioned anything about this? From what the C's had said I guess it is possible that they are simply a biogentically engineered hybrid race of male beings that didn't evolve in the same way as humans have through male/female reproduction (somewhat like the artificially created Greys), but there had been no such mention of this type of genetic engineering.

This also made me wonder about the sexual orientation of the Nephalim males. I remeber that Laura had asked if the Nephalim could mate compatibly with human females, and the C's alluded to them having the neccesary parts, just of the super-sized variety and that it wasn't possible. This makes me wonder how the 4D STS are keeping the Nephalim agreeable to their plans if there are no female Nephalim around. 36 Million males and not a female in sight! this makes me wonder if they have been altered (neutered may be a better word to use) to supress their sexual cravings (if indeed they ever had any)?

I'm going to do a lot of speculating here but I then to think as above so below. We are aligned with STS now and I think the techniques we use on lower animals are similar to what is used all types of 3D beings, nephalims included.
maybe there were/are females that are just carriers of those males created with genes that makes them nephalim but the females are not themselves nephalim. Maybe a specific 'type' of female is necessary for this. For all sense and purposes once the nephalim is 'born' there is no longer a need for the female. I think the Cs mentioned something about YY males who are very tall with a tendency to psychopathy as having nephalim genes. I don't have the sessions in front of me now. But since ther eare humans with these nephalim genes maybe naphalims are biogenetically engineered but are born in a sort of normal way after the engineering. Humans are also a genetic experiment according to the Cs and we are 'born'. What if the molecular genetic cloning techniques and use of transgenic animals in biological research are just 3D versions of lizzie biotech? Could the making of nephali be something similiar?


Maybe all they need is the DNA of interest and female carriers- those females capable of carrying the feotus to term. They don't have to share the same genes just similar enough for the female to nourish the growing feotus and give birth. These female breeders would be used only for this purpose and serve no other function. Could this be the case in nephalim society? Sometimes depending on what is being studied in the molecular bio lab the mice are gonadectomized. This would be similar to what you propose about neutering nephalim.

I say this because in a typical bio lab that does genetic research, cloning techniques are use to generate a gene of interest and create a geneticaly modified embryo. It is then implanted in a female "carrier" (pseudo pregnant mouse). After giving birth, the offspring if you want to call them that, gets genotyped. Male and female siblings carrying at least one copy of the desired gene are mated to further increase the likelihood of double transgenics (two copies of the gene of choice). Once you have your double transgenics the females are usually out of the picture unless one is looking at sex differences or female specific disorders, effects etc. The males of the genetically modified mice are then separated and kept in all male colonies. The females that breed these males are kept in a separaate breeding colony.

Getting back to the nephalims;
The Cs say nephalims are aggressive but I also recall them mentioning something about semitic genes that had something to do with resistance to ruthlessness and domination. The Cs also said the attempts to mate human females with nephalim failed but what if the failure was the development of this resistance. There are humans with 'nephalim genes' according to the Cs. That means the experiments must of worked in some way, just not how the experiemnters wanted, hence the failure.
Think in terms of the resistant gene.

I can't comment on the sexual orientation part. I know that XXY males have gender identity issues not XYY (nephalim genes)

BTW there is much debate about the YY males and aggression. A rather interesting one can be found here:
http://www.scienceclarified.com/dispute/Vol-1/Are-XYY-males-more-prone-to-aggressive-behavior-than-XY-males.html

 

[Appollynon]

Rs here is an part of the C's transcript which refffered to the Nephilim being male.

Q: (L) Would these Nephilim genetics be passed down in the natural
way, or would they be the result of genetic manipulation by
genetically altering a fetus and then putting it back?
A: No to latter. One clue: double Y chromosomes.
Q: (W) That's male...
A: Nephalim were.
Q: (L) They, were male. Women are a double X, men are XY.
A: Prisons are filled with double Y's with monstrous personality
disorders, almost always Caucasian and over- sized. Also, "bikers"
often carry the gene. We suggest you not share this in a general
way on the net!!!

Thanks for your POV nktulloch, I had never thought of the answer from that way of looking at it before. I probably made the mistake of assuming the C's reference to Nephalim denotes a whole civilisation. In fact the more I think about it, I think you may be right when you say:

I'm going to do a lot of speculating here but I then to think as above so below. We are aligned with STS now and I think the techniques we use on lower animals are similar to what is used all types of 3D beings, nephalims included.
maybe there were/are females that are just carriers of those males created with genes that makes them nephalim but the females are not themselves nephalim.

I guess we are the human race, but within our own human race we have different varieties of human looking beings such as the OP's and the inhuman Psychopaths. so maybe the word Nephalim is used to describe a certain type of being from within a race of beings as you have said.

Humans are also a genetic experiment according to the Cs and we are 'born'. What if the molecular genetic cloning techniques and use of transgenic animals in biological research are just 3D versions of lizzie biotech? Could the making of nephali be something similiar?

this passage freaked me out a bit as I realised it was likely a very good possiblity your right again. I hadn't thought of things from this POV, but it makes a sort of sick sense that we might be replicating the Lizzie techniques (albeit on a primitive scale) in our own labs.

I say this because in a typical bio lab that does genetic research, cloning techniques are use to generate a gene of interest and create a geneticaly modified embryo. It is then implanted in a female "carrier" (pseudo pregnant mouse). After giving birth, the offspring if you want to call them that, gets genotyped. Male and female siblings carrying at least one copy of the desired gene are mated to further increase the likelihood of double transgenics (two copies of the gene of choice). Once you have your double transgenics the females are usually out of the picture unless one is looking at sex differences or female specific disorders, effects etc. The males of the genetically modified mice are then separated and kept in all male colonies. The females that breed these males are kept in a separaate breeding colony.

Thats kind of the idea I was forming that maybe the females were kept segregated from the males, but I hadn't before thought about the females being used as the carriers of the feotus until it could be genotyped. Thankyou for blasting open my awareness on the gentics side of the qustion, I wouldn't have thought of any of the information you've shared without help.

I think this is some of the information talking about the role of the semitic genes you have mentinoned.

Q: (L) And, getting rid of the Jews was significant? Couldn't a Germanic master race be created without destroying another group?
A: No.
Q: Why?
A: Because of 4th density prior encoding mission destiny profile.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: This means encoding to activate after elevation to 4th density, thus if not eliminated, negates Nephalim domination and absorption. Jews were prior encoded tocarry out mission after conversion, though on individual basis. The Nazis did not exactly know why they were being driven to destroy them, because they were
being controlled from 4th density STS. But, Hitler communicated directly with Lizards, and Orion STS, and was instructed on how to create the "master race."

And this

Q: (L) Okay, what is it about the Semitic genes that was considered
to be so undesirable in the creation of this 'Master Race?'
A: Would blemish genetic characteristics inclined to ruthlessness
and domination.
Q: (L) So, you are saying that there is something, some genetic
tendency or set of genes in the Semitic type that would counteract
this?
A: Close.

And some more here

Q: (L) Okay, moving on to the next question: Are Semites a mixture of
Aryan genetics and Black genetics as I*** and I have theorized?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Once before you talked about the "mission destiny profile prior
encoding" of the Semitic genetic code structure. Of course, you talked about
this being done 130,000 years ago, so that's a long time. But, was that
original code structure put into the genetic code of the Black peoples...
A: Yes.
Q: ... to then be spread via their mixture with Aryans - as Semites - into other
races?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) What is the other part?
A: Genetic tweaking of Semites.
Q: (L) Is there something in the sub-Saharan African genes that makes one
tend more toward STO?
A: Not really.

Once again thanks for the comments, its helped me to understand the nature of what was said by the C's better and the nature of the gentic engineering that is likely going on here.

I'll do some more study of the Ponerology book and it's information about genetics and likely add to the topic if I have any more information or questions come up.